Value of: Vlasic to Montreal

[Stuzchuk]

Dude we all know who he is. One of the best, as most of us have said, read plz. The problem is not the player but his contract. Trading a promising player like Galchenyuk for Vlasic benefits the team trading Galchy but that team loses on years of control on a young player and gets only a sure 2 year of Vlasic. Thats a big risk. Would you take that risk with Stone??
But for the Habs it actually hurts them horribly, they cant roll with Pleks and DD as the top 2 Cs, that would hurt my eyes. You gotta consider org needs. The habs have 4 good top 4 D as of now. They only have 4 good top 6 wingers. Habs should look at after a Center. So if its the shaks, its Marleau and not Vlasic.

sorry, I should have quoted the op... I was replying to him... I havent read the thread what so ever... so whatever have been said bet'n post 1 to this one, I dont have a clue

 

[Phry]

i doubt he will disappoint more than Plekanec, whos an offensive blackhole. If you dont believe me, then you may have him for Marleau

You would at least have some cap cleared by April..

Im a Flames fan though. How does Wideman for Byron sound? I miss that tiny wrecking ball. Wideman is... good...

 

[Gecklund]

SJS fans cant actually whos better without concrete evidence. Its obv fans will prefer their own player plus i doubt it that you watch the Habs and Patches play liike u watch ur sharks.
Btw patches was, i believe 5th in Selke trophy two seasons ago. Im curious what was Couture's highest rank for the selke (no idea, just asking).

I doubt you watch the Sharks and Couture play like you watch your Habs. Couture is the biggest reason we succeed. When he's on, he's shutting down the top line and allowing Thornton to lead the offense. Also the awards are a joke. Toews winning the Selke over Bergeron a few years ago. Doughty winning the Norris over Burns or Karlsson last year. Doesn't mean much. Especially when the people voting are journalists where 50-60 percent of them are Habs biased.

 

[go4hockey]

What would it cost the Habs? What are San Jose's needs? He'd arguably be an ideal fit on the left side next to Weber. Hometown guy.

Just some thoughts...

Beaulieu + Sherbak + 2nd

Beaulieu + 1st

Vlasic is not available and if he was many teams would beat those weak ass offers. Do you think everyone is in the league to help your team.

 

[go4hockey]

Always been more of a Bick's guy

Seriously though, my first choice is Fowler, no interest in Edler, and Vlasic is to costly.

Problem with your choice is Ana is not looking to move him and that would make the cost pretty high to get him out of Ana.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

i doubt he will disappoint more than Plekanec, whos an offensive blackhole. If you dont believe me, then you may have him for Marleau

He may be an "offensive blackhole", but he's a great shutdown C. The reason the Habs aren't letting in many goals (they're #1 in GA) is because they have 2 shutdown Cs (Plekanec, Mitchell), great defensemen, and a superb goaltender. That said, I would trade Plekanec to a team that needs a shutdown C and has cap space, lol, for an offensive C. Otherwise, we're doing fine offensively. I would look into another C around January before the trade deadline, if anything.


Also, to OP: !!
I wrote about Vlasic in another trade thread. I would give up Sergachev + Beaulieu + Scherbak + 1st 2017 for Vlasic or OEL. Thing is, Vlasic is on a team that's contending (and in one of their last best efforts to contend too). OEL is in a team that won't contend for the next several years, and Arizona could very well use top prospects/good picks in hopes to boost in becoming a serious contender in no time.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

well its from the opinion of experts who prob more than the both of us

Yeah, you use that appeal to authority fallacy to not actually think about it for yourself. Anyone who believes that Thornton is the best defensive forward on the Sharks is not a person whose opinion I would respect on this matter because it's wrong.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Using a year where Couture broke his leg in every one of those averages is also a little silly.

OMG you can't be serious...

Pacioretty has had the same or better production per game in all the other years as well. what now? lol

 

[Cenzo_]

I would give Beaulieu, Sherback and 2017 & 2018 1st

Vlasic would probably waive his NTC to go to Montreal given he was born there and he goes back to Quebec during summer.

That is an offer worth considering for the Sharks

 

[RC51]

I would give Beaulieu, Sherback and 2017 & 2018 1st

Vlasic would probably waive his NTC to go to Montreal given he was born there and he goes back to Quebec during summer.

That is an offer worth considering for the Sharks[/QUOTE
WOW, I cant believe you are willing to offer this much.
thats 4 first round draft choices for Vlasic.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

I would give Beaulieu, Sherback and 2017 & 2018 1st

Vlasic would probably waive his NTC to go to Montreal given he was born there and he goes back to Quebec during summer.

That is an offer worth considering for the Sharks[/QUOTE
WOW, I cant believe you are willing to offer this much.
thats 4 first round draft choices for Vlasic.

Yeah I would give that too, and think it's very well worth it. We need a top LD now.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I would give Beaulieu, Sherback and 2017 & 2018 1st

Vlasic would probably waive his NTC to go to Montreal given he was born there and he goes back to Quebec during summer.

That is an offer worth considering for the Sharks

As of right now, that is not an offer worth considering. The Sharks don't get better now which is their priority at this point.

 

[Phry]

I would give Beaulieu, Sherback and 2017 & 2018 1st

Vlasic would probably waive his NTC to go to Montreal given he was born there and he goes back to Quebec during summer.

That is an offer worth considering for the Sharks[/QUOTE
WOW, I cant believe you are willing to offer this much.
thats 4 first round draft choices for Vlasic.

Not sure you understand how important Vlasic is the the Shark's success. He was injured early last season and the Sharks had the record of a bottom 5 team without him.

It's good that you think that offer is fair, but it would slam shut the Sharks' window. Why would they liquidate players for future assets when they're eying another run?

I get that you want a French Canadian to return to the homeland, but are the Sharks going to create a huge hole in their roster just for some prospects they don't need?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

What would it cost the Habs? What are San Jose's needs? He'd arguably be an ideal fit on the left side next to Weber. Hometown guy.

Just some thoughts...

Beaulieu + Sherbak + 2nd

Beaulieu + 1st

Get real none of these deals are even close to getting you Vlasic, Whom isn't available any ways. Gally would've to be included and i don't see that happening.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

better off trying to get burns you've got a 1 percent chance at him due to ufa, zero for vlasic.

 

[De Montreal]

Had the Sharks be rebuilding, the asking price for Vlasic would be Sergachev, Beaulieu and a late 1st. But they are not.

Habs fans wouldnt like it though because most of us see a lot of potential in Sergachev... but I'd do it. The thought of Vlasic-Weber-Price is just too good.

 

[snipes]

Get real none of these deals are even close to getting you Vlasic, Whom isn't available any ways. Gally would've to be included and i don't see that happening.

Beaulieu and some magic beans. Seriously? Not even close. At all.

 

[snipes]

Had the Sharks be rebuilding, the asking price for Vlasic would be Sergachev, Beaulieu and a late 1st. But they are not.

Habs fans wouldnt like it though because most of us see a lot of potential in Sergachev... but I'd do it. The thought of Vlasic-Weber-Price is just too good.

They would get so much more than that on the open market. That's not even a starting point.

Think Galchenyuk + Sergachev + 1st at the very minimum to start the conversation.

 

[TT1]

They would get so much more than that on the open market. That's not even a starting point.


Think Galchenyuk + Sergachev + 1st at the very minimum to start the conversation.

oh god, this board

 

[Uncle Gary]

The Sharks need him to contend.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

They would get so much more than that on the open market. That's not even a starting point.

Think Galchenyuk + Sergachev + 1st at the very minimum to start the conversation.

If Habs offer Galchenyuk + Sergachev, I take that. Forget the 1st.

 

[snipes]

If Habs offer Galchenyuk + Sergachev, I take that. Forget the 1st.

That easily eh?

The rumoured ask for Subban from us was Hall + Klefbom/Nurse + 1st.

I'd put Vlasic ahead of Subban, but I'm probably in the minority on that. I value the defensive game Vlasic brings higher than what Subban brings.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

That easily eh?

The rumoured ask for Subban from us was Hall + Klefbom/Nurse + 1st.

And there's a reason why Edmonton didn't accept that...

(Granted, I wouldn't trade Vlasic in season as this is likely our last year of going for it)

 

[snipes]

And there's a reason why Edmonton didn't accept that...

Isn't it the same logic though, the Sharks don't move Vlasic outside of a major overpay?

 

[snipes]

And there's a reason why Edmonton didn't accept that...

(Granted, I wouldn't trade Vlasic in season as this is likely our last year of going for it)

I see you added this. That's the exact point, you'd need an offer you couldn't refuse on the table.

Sharks are aging out and the window is closing. Enough depth and talent that a legit Cup run could happen this year.