Traded Vladimir Tarasenko (1 year, 5 million)

[Tnuoc Alucard]

You've moved the goal posts so far they are on another field at this point, if you can't remember what you said a couple posts ago it's no wonder you've misconstrued what happens 13 years ago. Your claim was Tarasenko was committed to play in the KHL for three seasons at the time of the draft, that appears to be false given he said he was willing to come over even for junior in his draft interviews according to the hurricanes amateur scout.

You said wanting someone who they could put in the line much soon and that was their motivation for the trade, again no real evidence supports this, trading for a Dman drafted one year earlier doesn't speak to a desire to get someone in the line quickly.

He signed with the blues Jul 2012 two years after the draft, the lockout is the only reason he played games in the KHL that year, and he was in the blues lineup for opening night, he was one of the more NHL ready prospects that draft and although he was committed for 1 year to the KHL, the list on players drafted mid first that step right in after being drafted is miniscule.

Teams were reluctant with the Russian factor, the lack of a transfer agreement meant they couldn't pull guys under active contracts and the KHL was throwing money at players, but it's a giant leap to say we didn't take him because we wanted someone who could step into the lineup sooner,

 

[Sun God Nika]

If Tarasenko plays with Stützle AND Giroux 30 goals is the floor.

Giroux - Stützle - Tarasenko
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Kubalik
Smejkal - Kastelic - Kelly
MacEwan

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Chychrun
Brannstrom - Hamonic
JBD

Korpisalo
Forsberg


That’s a playoff roster and it can probably withstand 2-3 season ending injures

 

[Golden_Jet]

If Tarasenko plays with Stützle AND Giroux 30 goals is the floor.

Giroux - Stützle - Tarasenko
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Kubalik
Smejkal - Kastelic - Kelly
MacEwan

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Chychrun
Brannstrom - Hamonic
JBD

Korpisalo
Forsberg


That’s a playoff roster and it can probably withstand 2-3 season ending injures

Disagree with the season ending injuries part.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

I think it’s a boarder line playoff team, the goaltending still scares the shit out of me personally.

 

[Mingus Dew]

I think it’s a boarder line playoff team, the goaltending still scares the shit out of me personally.

It is a question of who we are going to pass in the Atlantic.

Toronto = no
Tampa = probably not
Florida = probably not
Boston = maybe
Buffalo = maybe
Detroit = maybe
Montreal = yes

Good chance that the Atlantic sends 5 teams this year with NJ, NYR and CAR coming out of the Metro. Pittsburgh might surprise too.

I think we are fighting with Boston, Buffalo and Detroit all year. If any of those 3 teams (including us) gets bad injury luck or sub-par goaltending they are probably cooked. Buffalo has good depth so they may be the most resilient of the bubble teams.

If we lose Batherson from the jump we are gonna be behind the eight ball relative to those other teams.

Tarasenko signing was really important though because without an addition like that we aren’t a playoff team.

 

[2CHAINZ]

It is a question of who we are going to pass in the Atlantic.

Toronto = no
Tampa = probably not
Florida = probably not
Boston = maybe
Buffalo = maybe
Detroit = maybe
Montreal = yes

Good chance that the Atlantic sends 5 teams this year with NJ, NYR and CAR coming out of the Metro. Pittsburgh might surprise too.

I think we are fighting with Boston, Buffalo and Detroit all year. If any of those 3 teams (including us) gets bad injury luck or sub-par goaltending they are probably cooked. Buffalo has good depth so they may be the most resilient of the bubble teams.

If we lose Batherson from the jump we are gonna be behind the eight ball relative to those other teams.

Tarasenko signing was really important though because without an addition like that we aren’t a playoff team.

If the injury gods are good to the Sens and Batherson isn't suspended and we get adequate goaltending, I honestly think we could be a really good team and be fighting for top dog in the division.

Or DJ proves he is a terrible coach, and we suck again. This has to be make-or-break for DJ and Dorion.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Murray is owed 8mill something tells me Ottawa won't do that

Love all the fans that were like “can’t please some people. Pissed we don’t spend but also pissed we have Matt Murray a big deal????? Which is it?!?!?”

Yeah that deal sucks and it’s actually hurts

 

[bicboi64]

It is a question of who we are going to pass in the Atlantic.

Toronto = no
Tampa = probably not
Florida = probably not
Boston = maybe
Buffalo = maybe
Detroit = maybe
Montreal = yes

Good chance that the Atlantic sends 5 teams this year with NJ, NYR and CAR coming out of the Metro. Pittsburgh might surprise too.

I can see us passing Florida. Their blueline without Montour and Ekblad is pathetic. I see us getting past Detroit as well, not enough fire power in their top 6 even with DeBrincat. Buffalo will be interesting as their only question mark is in net.

Hoping Tampa and Toronto choke big time this season.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Love all the fans that were like “can’t please some people. Pissed we don’t spend but also pissed we have Matt Murray a big deal????? Which is it?!?!?”

Yeah that deal sucks and it’s actually hurts

Regardless of any criticism of the contract being given, what an absolute gift for Matt Murray. 24 mil for SFA.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

If the injury gods are good to the Sens and Batherson isn't suspended and we get adequate goaltending, I honestly think we could be a really good team and be fighting for top dog in the division.

Or DJ proves he is a terrible coach, and we suck again. This has to be make-or-break for DJ and Dorion.

That should be said just for the month of October.

 

[Mingus Dew]

I can see us passing Florida. Their blueline without Montour and Ekblad is pathetic. I see us getting past Detroit as well, not enough fire power in their top 6 even with DeBrincat. Buffalo will be interesting as their only question mark is in net.

Hoping Tampa and Toronto choke big time this season.

I gotta give Florida the edge because they just went to the SCF.

We are probably on the right side of Detroit, agreed.

Top to bottom I think Buffalo is better than we are with better depth but yeah they could get bad goaltending.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Regardless of any criticism of the contract being given, what an absolute gift for Matt Murray. 24 mil for SFA.

Matt Murray is like a 10x lotto winner, and he's such a whiny baby f*** who doesn't deserve it.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

Did Buffalo have many injuries last year?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Did Buffalo have many injuries last year?

only late season

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Disagree with the season ending injuries part.

If it's Kelly and one of Brannstrom/Hamonic that suffers those injuries I think we'd be fine..

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If it's Kelly and one of Brannstrom/Hamonic that suffers those injuries I think we'd be fine..

Either way it will be an excuse lol. We lost one player last year and it was the end of the world.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

only late season

So, would it be fair to say that, all things being equal, the Sens were at least as good as Buffalo?

 

[Micklebot]

So, would it be fair to say that, all things being equal, the Sens were at least as good as Buffalo?

Buffalo was one of the teams least impacted by injuries in the league, while we were one of the most impacted.

Whether that difference explains the 5pts gap is tough to prove, but it's certainly a factor

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

It is a question of who we are going to pass in the Atlantic.

Toronto = no
Tampa = probably not
Florida = probably not
Boston = maybe
Buffalo = maybe
Detroit = maybe
Montreal = yes

Good chance that the Atlantic sends 5 teams this year with NJ, NYR and CAR coming out of the Metro. Pittsburgh might surprise too.

I think we are fighting with Boston, Buffalo and Detroit all year. If any of those 3 teams (including us) gets bad injury luck or sub-par goaltending they are probably cooked. Buffalo has good depth so they may be the most resilient of the bubble teams.

If we lose Batherson from the jump we are gonna be behind the eight ball relative to those other teams.

Tarasenko signing was really important though because without an addition like that we aren’t a playoff team.

Buffalo has great forward depth, but even last season losing Samuelsson caused them to go on a massive losing streak, yet we were able to weather injuries to every single good Dman outside of Sanderson.

 

[JD1]

It is a question of who we are going to pass in the Atlantic.

Toronto = no
Tampa = probably not
Florida = probably not
Boston = maybe
Buffalo = maybe
Detroit = maybe
Montreal = yes

Good chance that the Atlantic sends 5 teams this year with NJ, NYR and CAR coming out of the Metro. Pittsburgh might surprise too.

I think we are fighting with Boston, Buffalo and Detroit all year. If any of those 3 teams (including us) gets bad injury luck or sub-par goaltending they are probably cooked. Buffalo has good depth so they may be the most resilient of the bubble teams.

If we lose Batherson from the jump we are gonna be behind the eight ball relative to those other teams.

Tarasenko signing was really important though because without an addition like that we aren’t a playoff team.

Our injury situation last year wasn't great, we definitely need better health this year.

You've created a list of the Atlantic teams. Have a read of this article. Written July 19. Who's improved the most. We're 15th and the article was written before Tarasenko signed. You'd think that Tarasenko would bump us up a few spots. Toronto, Tampa, Florida, Boston and Buffalo are all at the bottom of this list.

Which NHL teams have improved the most this offseason? Rating all 32 teams

From most value added to least, rating each team based on whether they have more talent than they did at the start of the offseason.

theathletic.com

 

[Micklebot]

Buffalo has great forward depth, but even last season losing Samuelsson caused them to go on a massive losing streak, yet we were able to weather injuries to every single good Dman outside of Sanderson.

Idk, we had the big losing streak when Zub got hurt early in the season.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Our injury situation last year wasn't great, we definitely need better health this year.

You've created a list of the Atlantic teams. Have a read of this article. Written July 19. Who's improved the most. We're 15th and the article was written before Tarasenko signed. You'd think that Tarasenko would bump us up a few spots. Toronto, Tampa, Florida, Boston and Buffalo are all at the bottom of this list.

Which NHL teams have improved the most this offseason? Rating all 32 teams

From most value added to least, rating each team based on whether they have more talent than they did at the start of the offseason.

theathletic.com

I don’t agree with them about Toronto. I like the moves they made.

Tampa and Boston certainly got worse but it’s a question of degree. They are proven winners with strong coaching and pedigree.

Florida’s IR situation is bad. They are the most likely to fall out of the top 3.

The Atlantic is a jumbled mess this year because you have so many teams that are basically on the same level, at least in my opinion. Hard to pencil us in as definitively better than any of them save Montreal. The proof is in the pudding and this team still needs to show that it can be more than the sum of its parts.

Buffalo has great forward depth, but even last season losing Samuelsson caused them to go on a massive losing streak, yet we were able to weather injuries to every single good Dman outside of Sanderson.

I mean our D injuries hit us pretty hard throughout the year.

Health is going to be a big separator this year.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Our team is stacked, on paper this is one of the better rosters in the league.
If we are healthy and get the coaching structure we need there is no way this isn’t a playoff team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Not raining on anything.. I had heard/seen a couple things so I wanted to see what was out there... Have not found much but did find this.
Bernie Miklasz is a St. Louis Sports writer and sports radio personality

Bernie: The Blues Traded The Ghost Of Vladimir Tarasenko. That's A Start, But Don't Stop Now. - Scoops Sports Network

Who won the trade? My answer: That’s a stupid question. In the belated fulfillment of a trade request that caused controversy and a considerable amount of caterwauling, the Blues gave Vladimir Tarasenko a ticket to midtown Manhattan for the opportunity to find a new purpose as a member of the...

www.scoopswithdannymac.com

 

[Sensinitis]

Idk, we had the big losing streak when Zub got hurt early in the season.

Norris was also hurt