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Blue Jays Discussion: Vladdy named ASG MVP. Draft Over. Now all that's left is the trade deadline

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Stretching back a decade, I was hoping the Jays would go all-in on Fielder. And would have liked to have seen ownership/management dish out a similar contract that he got to do so. An extremely offensive producing 1st baseman that the Jays didn't have since Delgado. Entering his prime at 27/28 years old. Son of a former Blue Jay. Thought he was a perfect fit.

Retired early due to his severe injury issues, and only lived up to his contract for the first couple of years. Which would have left an albatross for the next seven years.
 
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I think it is a little ridiculous that they are sharing players personal health information like this unless of course they have the players permission. Its different to report on an injury, but whether someone is vaccinated or not, and with what vaccine seems like it is stepping over the line imo.
 
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phillipmike said:




I think it is a little ridiculous that they are sharing players personal health information like this unless of course they have the players permission. Its different to report on an injury, but whether someone is vaccinated or not, and with what vaccine seems like it is stepping over the line imo.
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Not really. Everyone should get vaccinated that can.

I am surprised that they didn't get Pfizer or Moderna though. The mRNA vaccines are extremely safe and effective.
 
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Every major sport has this, though. Hockey and Soccer with offsides, Basketball with the key, NFL with the line of scrimmage, etc.
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But those are all to establish fundamental parameters/boundaries in the sport - NOT to set limits on the placement or movement of individual players. Baseball has those too, for example: the batters box, or the pitching rubber. Banning "the shift" is completely different from this, because it "locks" players into areas of the playing field where they can't stray from. In soccer, the goalie is free to push up as far up the field as they wish. In football, a defensive lineman is free to drop back into coverage (this in fact is NOT their "responsibility" or "purpose") and a safety is free to come down and play at the line. In basketball, the players are all free to move around as they wish regardless of what their "role" on the team is (for instance, there is no rule that locks the center into only playing within the boundaries of the key, or preventing the center from carrying the ball up the court).

The shift in baseball is no different from any other positional sacrifice that is made in any other sport. When employed, you are essentially sacrificing the defense of one portion of the playing area in order to fortify another area. This is an obvious tradeoff as you aren't gaining any sort of "advantage". How is that any different from a defense in football "stacking the box" - wherein the defense chooses to expose one area of attack (downfield passing) in order to fortify another (defending the run)? When the goalie in soccer plays up the field this gives them an advantage of an extra potential attacker, at the tradeoff of there being no one left to defend the net. The main point: these are ALL permitted within the rules.
 
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But those are all to establish fundamental parameters/boundaries in the sport -NOT to set limits on the placement or movement of individual player
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Well let me ask you - why does the offside rule (which very much limits player movement) exist?
 
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Every major sport has this, though. Hockey and Soccer with offsides, Basketball with the key, NFL with the line of scrimmage, etc.
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Those are made to make the game fair though. Shifting is used by looking at the stats and placing your players to maximize defense. It makes total sense to do that. To me, it's an absolutely fair rule to have.
 
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Well let me ask you - why does the offside rule (which very much limits player movement) exist?
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To make the game fair...there's a reason why offside exists. You could just have players cherry pick pass half or the defense which isn't fair.
 
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To make the game fair...there's a reason why offside exists. You could just have players cherry pick pass half or the defense which isn't fair.
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But why isn't that fair if both teams would be allowed to do it?

Replace the word "fair" with the word "interesting" and I think you've nailed it.
 
kb said:
Considering this from May, yeah......it just might be time to admit what is rapidly becoming obvious?

Ninth person from Yankees tests positive for Covid
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Around the time of that article, you asked someone to explain to you how it was possible for the Yankees to test positive despite getting the vaccine.

At your request, I explained to you that the vaccine does not bequeath onto you an anti-covid forcefield, what it instead does is give you antibodies that allow you to fight off the virus quickly without getting too sick, and also reduces your chances of passing off the virus to others (as you have a lower viral load and carry the virus for less time).

It's disappointing that you've chosen to forget the explanation.
 
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Looks like one of the guys is Judge so hopefully, the Jays players at the AS game were vaccinated. Assuming of course Judge is the player that is unvaccinated.
 
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