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I know almost nothing about most of these guys so based on the fact he's a prep outfielder and I wanted a prep outfielder I'm hoping for Tommy Dilandri
 
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Astros take the 37th ranked guy from HS at 87 with their first pick of the draft. I assume that'll be overslot but they have very little money.
 
I can't find much info on him, but here's McRae's report:

Tiedemann had some helium prior to the COVID-19 pandemic that ended spring sports, which ultimately led to him getting limited time in front of scouts and going undrafted. About a month after the 2020 Draft, Tiedemann announced he was decommitting from San Diego State and following in his older brother, Tai's (2016 Draft, 6th Round) footsteps and playing college ball at Long Beach City College, a JC in California. Tiedemann sits in the high-80's, usually 88-90, though he touched 92 at times. He works with a fluent delivery, high intent, and fantastic usage of the lower half. There's solid hip rotation and elbow spiral, which is rare from a 18-year-old. His CB/CH come and go, usually both above average at best, but the arm works so well that you could project the CH to become a near-plus pitch with the sinking action on his FB.
 
Baseball America had him #90 overall:

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Ricky Tiedemann
Golden West (Calif.) JCLHP
Notes:
Ht: 6-3 | Wt: 200 | B-T: L-L
Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 18.9

BA Grade: 50 | Risk: Extreme
Fastball: 50 | Slider: 50 | Changeup: 70 | Control: 50

Tiedemann drew considerable interest out of Lakewood (Calif.) High last year, but teams weren’t willing to meet his bonus demands and he went unpicked in the shortened five-round draft. Rather than stick with his commitment to San Diego State, Tiedemann enrolled at Golden West (Calif.) JC this spring to be eligible for the 2021 draft. Tiedemann has blossomed physically over the past year and now stands 6-foot-4, 220 pounds with broad shoulders and a strong, well-proportioned frame. With the increased physicality has come an uptick in his stuff. Tiedemann’s fastball now sits 89-92 mph and touches 94 with life out of a low slot that creates a difficult angle for hitters. His changeup is a plus offering he can throw at any time to lefties or righties, and it has the potential to become a plus-plus pitch as he adds more separation from his fastball. His hard slider has become consistently average. Tiedemann has lots of promising ingredients, but he’s still learning to put everything together. He underwhelmed at times this spring, posting a 3.55 ERA and allowing more than a hit per inning against subpar junior college competition, and requires a bit of projection. He is an excellent athlete who aggressively goes after hitters, but his arm slot can wander and make it harder to throw strikes. He’ll show above-average control in some outings and struggle to find the strike zone in others. Tiedemann is only 18 and younger than many players still in high school. Teams are optimistic his stuff will continue to grow and he will become more consistent with experience.
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Ricky
Tiedemann
LHP, Golden West JC

  • AGE: 18
  • BATS: L
  • DOB: 08/18/2002
  • THROWS: L
  • HT: 6' 4"
  • WT: 220
  • @TiedemannRicky
Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)

  • FASTBALL: 55
  • SLIDER: 50
  • CHANGEUP: 55
  • CONTROL: 50
  • OVERALL: 45
Video scouting report »
While the 2020 amateur season was cut short because of the pandemic, Tiedemann did manage to become a bit of a pop-up prospect who rose into MLB Pipeline’s Top 100 prior to last year’s Draft. The younger brother of Rangers Minor League right-hander Tai Tiedemann went undrafted in the five-round event and rather than head to San Diego State, he switched gears to Long Beach Junior College in order to be eligible this year. When Long Beach cancelled spring sports because of COVID-19, Tiedemann was on the move again, this time to Golden West College.
Tiedemann’s overall profile of solid stuff, size and athleticism hasn’t changed much in a year’s time, but there’s plenty to like. His fastball sits in the low-90s and will bump 93-94 mph at times, with more in the tank as he continues to add strength to his 6-foot-4 frame. His changeup flashes plus and his slider has gotten a bit tighter and more effective.

A good athlete who hit in the middle of his high school lineup, Tiedemann should be able to continue throwing strikes even if he starts throwing harder. He still hasn’t been seen a ton, but given how hard it is to find projectable left-handed starters, scouts will be paying many visits to Golden West to see if Tiedemann is worthy of a top three or four round selection.
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Jonathan Mayo compared him to Sean Manaea.
 
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The Orioles take another college guy? This one not even ranked by mlb.com. I know I know nothing but I'm so confused. Where are they using their 5th overall savings?
 
SDig14 said:
The real accomplishment will be actually signing 3 1st-round talents. If they do it then it is a masterful job.
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Callis said if someone is drafted in the first 10 rounds they are signing. In 2019 everyone drafted in the first 10 rounds signed except for 2 players. Pittsburgh doesnt take him with their 3rd pick without a deal imo.

Only players not to sign were;

Rangers 7th round pick; Brandon Sproat
Cubs 10th round pick; Wyatt Hendrie
 
Jays take RHP Chad Dallas. Great name

210.
Chad Dallas
RHP, Tennessee

  • AGE: 21
  • BATS: R
  • DOB: 06/26/2000
  • THROWS: R
  • HT: 5' 11"
  • WT: 206
Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)

  • FASTBALL: 50
  • CURVEBALL: 50
  • CUTTER 60
  • CHANGEUP 40
  • CONTROL 55
  • OVERALL 40
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After Dallas came out of the bullpen to strike out 71 in 39 innings as a freshman at Panola (Texas) JC in 2019, Tennessee recruited him as a reliever. Instead, he became the Volunteers' No. 1 starter in his first year in Knoxville and helped pitched them to their first College World Series since 2005 this spring. He won eight of his 11 Southeastern Conference starts and beat Louisiana State with a career-high 12 strikeouts in the super regionals.

Dallas added a mid-80s cutter in 2021 and it has become his best weapon, a plus offering that destroys right-handers both in the strike zone and as a chase pitch. His low-80s curveball has depth and grades as solid at its best. His fastball sits at 90-94 mph and can reach 98, though it features only modest armside life and doesn't miss many bats.

While his 5-foot-11, 206-pound build isn't ideal for a starter, Dallas makes up for it with his ability to pound the strike zone and his dogged competitiveness. He'll have to find a way to get left-handers out to remain in the rotation as a pro, and his mid-80s changeup with some fade will need significant improvement if it's to become the answer. The rest of his repertoire and his mentality would fit well in a relief role.
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phillipmike said:
Phillies take Painter from the school Roy Halladay worked at. Also where Braden Halladay went
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Jays take RHP Irv Carter - also a teammate of Painter.

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Irv
Carter
RHP, Calvary Christian (FL)
  • AGE
    18
  • BATS
    R
  • DOB
    10/09/2002
  • THROWS
    R
  • HT
    6' 4"
  • WT
    210
  • COMMITTED
    Miami
Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)

  • FASTBALL
    55
  • SLIDER
    55
  • CHANGEUP
    45
  • CONTROL
    50
  • OVERALL
    45
Video scouting report »
Teams that have to play Calvary Christian Academy in Florida might think they’d be lucky if they didn’t have to face the school’s ace and potential top 10 pick, Andrew Painter. They’d be wrong, as the school’s No. 2 starter, Carter, would be the top guy in most other high school programs and is a legitimate Draft prospect in his own right.

There are a lot of things to like with Carter, particularly his size, physicality and arm strength. The 6-foot-4 right-hander has a fastball that is currently up to 94 mph, but given his frame, scouts feel there’s more in the tank, with a consistent mid-90s fastball certainly feasible. He complements his fastball with a very good slider, thrown in the low 80s. He hasn’t needed it much, but Carter has shown some feel for a changeup, though it can get firm at times, up to 87 mph.

Carter will change up his delivery, incorporating things like a Johnny Cueto-like turn-around, but he tends to be around the plate and should have average control once he commits to a consistent delivery. Given his size and stuff, the Miami recruit has reminded some of Touki Toussaint, who was a first-round pick from the area back in 2014.
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All Jays draftees have been all pitchers. Carter reminds me of SWR.
 
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Irv Carter is a big pick - HS pitcher and teammate of Andrew Painter (remember there were reports that we were scouting Painter?). Looks like we saved some money and thats where it should be going, because he's obviously not signing for $350K.
 
Irving Carter
Calvary Christian HS, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.RHP
Notes:
Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 200 | B-T: R-R
Commit/Drafted: Miami
Age At Draft: 18.8

BA Grade: 50 | Risk: Extreme
Fastball: 55 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 40

There’s a good chance that Carter is the best No. 2 high school arm in the country as the teammate of fellow 2021 righthander Andrew Painter. While Carter might benefit from being on the same team as Painter in terms of scouting eyeballs, he’s a talented prospect in his own right with a three-pitch mix, super projectable frame and athleticism that give him exciting upside. Carter throws a fastball that sits in the low 90s and gets up into the 95 mph range at its best, with good downhill angle out of a high, three-quarter arm slot. After throwing more of a traditional 12-to-6 curveball earlier in his prep career, Carter transitioned to a slider last summer, and the pitch has shown plus potential with power and two-plane break in the mid-to-upper 80s with spin rates in the 2500 rpm range. He’ll need to improve the consistency of the pitch, as he’ll get around the ball at times, but it has real out-pitch potential. Carter also throws a mid-80s changeup with good arm speed, though he’ll bury the pitch in the dirt fairly regularly. Carter has the athleticism and starter frame that teams are looking for, but he’ll need to refine his strike throwing and potentially clean up his delivery to avoid a bullpen projection. There’s plenty of effort in the delivery and he has length in his arm stroke with stabbing action in the back that could create issues with timing and repeating his breaking ball. Coaches and scouts alike do love his mentality and demeanor on the mound, however. Carter is a Miami commit.
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