Blue Jays Discussion: Vladdy named ASG MVP. Draft Over. Now all that's left is the trade deadline

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Bo Bichette has played exactly 162 MLB games. In that time he has put up 32 HRs, 101 RBIs, 20 SB with a OPS+ of 130 or a wRC+ of 124. Good enough for 6.4 bWAR or 5.2 fWAR.
 




Cant really complain about Atkins and Farrell but given the chance I would have given Cherington the GM job over Ross just to keep BC and Steve Sanders.

Cherington and Sanders are killing it based on how high their picks were so no guessing how good their drafting would be with lower picks.

Im also aware Shapiro is the top dog, so Cherington still doesn’t take the GM here if it meant he had a full autonomy offer like he does in Pittsburgh.
 
At this point there is no good reason not to allow the Jays to come home. Most teams are fully vaccinated and the teams can shuttle directly from their planes to the stadium's hotel, then back again.
The demographics and vaccine rates along the border are nearly identical. Probably the USA has a speed. 100 people go there from here and 100 people come here from here, and I’m staring at the exact same risk profile. There’s no reason to shut the border.

All stupid nanny state politics now!
 
What we're seeing in Canada is total BS. Look at USA, I know they had a headstart on us in terms of the vaccines rollout, but Canada is stuck way behind when they shouldn't be. If they can have packed stadiums down there, we can too. Look at the home run contest. Packed stadium, reporters are on the field, fans not wearing masks.

The demographics and vaccine rates along the border are nearly identical. Probably the USA has a speed. 100 people go there from here and 100 people come here from here, and I’m staring at the exact same risk profile. There’s no reason to shut the border.

You two are seriously misinterpreting my reply. I'm talking about a baseball team that can come here and play baseball under highly controlled conditions: plane, bus, hotel, then back again. What you're talking about is filling stadiums with thousands of people and border politics. Totally different situations.

Also, never talk politics with me. I'm not interested in anyone's opinion on politics. I'm here for baseball, that's it. If I want politics, I'll go to a political website...which I won't.
 
You two are seriously misinterpreting my reply. I'm talking about a baseball team that can come here and play baseball under highly controlled conditions: plane, bus, hotel, then back again. What you're talking about is filling stadiums with thousands of people and border politics. Totally different situations.

Also, never talk politics with me. I'm not interested in anyone's opinion on politics. I'm here for baseball, that's it. If I want politics, I'll go to a political website...which I won't.

Was actually latching on to what you had said, and agreeing with you. I will remember that you were a touchy one. Vote for the greens or abstain for all I care.But the border needs to Opened, for so many reasons… Including baseball. And you’re exactly right. It should not be political.
 
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Toronto - where the Blue Jays play has 43 cases of COVID and 60%+ adults vaccinated with both doses.

when is enough enough?
It’s been enough for a long time now. There’s no legitimate reason for use to still be where we are
 
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Trying my best to not cross into political posting here. Looking strictly at the data, the bigger issue has been a stagnation in first doses. Countrywide and in Ontario, we've been crawling in the high 60s for awhile (68.8% province wide as of June 11th).

If just a hand full of people would stop listening to their facebook timeline, we could easily be over 75% both doses by the end of the summer (which is likely where certain authorities want us to be) and everything would be back to normal. Including full capacity baseball stadiums (to get us back on topic)

On a much more dire and important note, something that affects us all: Did y'all see that the Pirates first baseman who had that historic blunder on the Javy Baez play got shipped off to South Korea? Poor guy but also I'm sure he wouldn't mind a fresh start. I can't help but laugh.
 
You two are seriously misinterpreting my reply. I'm talking about a baseball team that can come here and play baseball under highly controlled conditions: plane, bus, hotel, then back again. What you're talking about is filling stadiums with thousands of people and border politics. Totally different situations.

Also, never talk politics with me. I'm not interested in anyone's opinion on politics. I'm here for baseball, that's it. If I want politics, I'll go to a political website...which I won't.

Sorry, my bad. Just voicing my frustrations with the situation. No intention to talk politics.
 
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Trying my best to not cross into political posting here. Looking strictly at the data, the bigger issue has been a stagnation in first doses. Countrywide and in Ontario, we've been crawling in the high 60s for awhile (68.8% province wide as of June 11th).

If just a hand full of people would stop listening to their facebook timeline, we could easily be over 75% both doses by the end of the summer (which is likely where certain authorities want us to be) and everything would be back to normal. Including full capacity baseball stadiums (to get us back on topic)

On a much more dire and important note, something that affects us all: Did y'all see that the Pirates first baseman who had that historic blunder on the Javy Baez play got shipped off to South Korea? Poor guy but also I'm sure he wouldn't mind a fresh start. I can't help but laugh.


its bad up north here.

this whole northern section of the province is only a little over 40% vaccination rate on the first shot. and its readily available to all. i received my second shot a few weeks back.

off that now.

first pick of the day another pitcher left hander trenton wallace (237) rnk
 
Is this a baseball thread? Sure seems like it is currently a thread for idiots to share their opinion on topics they are ignorant about.

Talking about the Jays returning to Toronto is idiotic and not baseball related?

is it those opposing having the Jays return with a 60%+ adult double vax rate in Toronto and sub 50 cases of Covid that are the idiots or are the idiots those who think we should allow some normalcy in our lives looking at the double vax numbers and case count numbers that are the idiots?

Kind of unclear when you just call people idiots with nothing further
 
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Not trying to be crass but it really doesn’t matter what’s going on in the rest of Canada. Hell, even in places not close to Toronto that are in Ontario. The Jays play in Toronto, those are the numbers that matter.

I said the same thing when small towns were getting shut down because of Toronto’s case numbers. That was also stupid
 
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Day 3 Jays Picks

11th Round - 332 Overall - RHP Trenton Wallace

237
Trenton
Wallace
LHP, Iowa

  • AGE: 22
  • BATS: L
  • DOB: 03/31/1999
  • THROWS: L
  • HT: 6' 1"
  • WT: 200
Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)

  • FASTBALL: 50
  • CURVEBALL: 45
  • SLIDER: 55
  • CHANGEUP: 45
  • CONTROL: 45
  • OVERALL: 40
Video scouting report »
The son of longtime Augustana (Ill.) baseball coach Greg Wallace, Trenton has been a two-way performer for Iowa for four seasons. A full-time pitcher and part-time outfielder, he moved into the Hawkeyes' weekend rotation for the first time this spring and became the first player in school history to win Big Ten Conference pitcher of the year accolades. He could be the highest Iowa pitcher drafted since Wes Obermueller was a second-rounder in 1999.

Wallace has below-average fastball velocity, sitting at 89-91 mph and topping out at 93, but his heater works as an average offering because he creates deceptive angle with it. His best pitch is a low-80s slider that's effective against both left-handers and right-handers. He should use his slider more often in comparison to his mid-70s curveball, and he also has a low-80s changeup that lacks life and gets too firm at times.

Wallace is athletic and has a delivery with little effort, yet he walks more batters than he should because he gets too fine with his pitches for his own good. The hope is that once he focuses solely on pitching, his velocity and control will tick up and he can become a back-of-the-rotation starter. His fallback will be to become a lefty reliever who relies on his fastball and slider.

12th Round - 362 Overall - Riley Tirotta


Dayton has produced three big leaguers, including Jerry Blevins and Craig Stammen, but never has had a player selected in the first 10 rounds. That could change with Tirotta, an impressive athlete who can display double-plus speed, plus right-handed raw power and the arm strength and quickness to play a quality third base. After batting .241 in his first three seasons and looking overmatched with wood bats in summer play, he batted .337/.450/.696, tied for the Atlantic-10 Conference lead with 16 homers and swiped 14 bases this spring. He also performed well at the inaugural MLB Draft Combine.

Interesting draft so far for the Jays. The Jays have taken 10 pitchers, 1 OF and 1 3B. Jays usually take big projectable players but 5 pitchers are either 6'1" or shorter.
 
Jays take RHP Matt Svanson with their 13th round pick.

From Leigh High University - 6'5" 235Ilbs.
 
With their 14th round pick, 422nd overall the Jays take 3B/OF Canadian Damiano Palmegiani.

Jays took him in the 35th round of the 2018 draft but he did not sign.
245. Damiano Palmegiani
3B/OF, Canada Jr. Team


  • AGE: 22
  • BATS: R
  • DOB: 01/24/2000
  • THROWS: R
  • HT: 6' 1"
  • WT: 195
  • PREVIOUSLY DRAFTED: 2018, 35th (1046) - TOR
  • COMMITTED: Arizona
  • TWITTER: @damiano_p24
Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)

  • HIT: 45
  • POWER: 50
  • RUN: 45
  • ARM: 50
  • FIELD: 45
  • OVERALL: 40
Video scouting report »
Born in Venezuela, but raised in British Columbia, Palmegiani was drafted in the 35th round of the 2018 Draft by the Blue Jays before heading to Cal State Northridge to begin his college career. He transferred to College of Southern Nevada last summer and was one of the best offensive performers at the junior college level, leading all Division I juco hitters with 26 homers and finishing with a 1.388 OPS.

A right-handed hitter, Palmegiani has some serious now power, with the ability to drive the ball to all fields. Extremely physical, he has strong hands to generate good bat speed and shows solid bat to ball skills. While not a speedster, he is better underway and managed to steal 14 bases this spring.
The biggest question surrounding Palmegiani is where he belongs defensively. He played third for Southern Nevada and has enough arm for the hot corner, but most scouts don’t think he can play there at the next level. He’s played a number of positions as an amateur, but left field seems to be the best fit, or perhaps first base, though it’s the bat teams will be interested in the most.
 
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Day 3 Jays Picks

11th Round - 332 Overall - RHP Trenton Wallace



12th Round - 362 Overall - Riley Tirotta




Interesting draft so far for the Jays. The Jays have taken 10 pitchers, 1 OF and 1 3B. Jays usually take big projectable players but 5 pitchers are either 6'1" or shorter.
I’m good with drafting pitching but that does stand out.
 
Jays have leaked their return plan which seems to be entirely reasonable (click through as its two tweets)

 
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