Blue Jays Discussion: Vladdy named ASG MVP. Draft Over. Now all that's left is the trade deadline

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Jays take OF Garrett Spain with their 15th round pick.

From Austin Peay University - 5'11" 178Ilbs.

Jays continue their run "small" RHPs by taking Mican Buckham, another Canadian player with their 16th round pick. 6' 1" - 195lbs
 
Jays take OF Garrett Spain with their 15th round pick.

From Austin Peay University - 5'11" 178Ilbs.

Jays continue their run "small" RHPs by taking Mican Buckham, another Canadian player with their 16th round pick. 6' 1" - 195lbs

Greg Zaun is shaking his head in a bar somewhere
 
Jays took a player named Juan Gonzalez, im trying to figure out if he has any relation to thee Juan Gonzalez to check off the bloodline requirement.
 
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The Angels have drafted 19 pitchers - 0 position players. Couple more picks to go to see if they'll make it a clean sweep lmao.
 
I would assume the Holman pick at the end is probably not signable since it doesn’t seem like we saved a ton of pool space and somewhere else probably would have taken him if we did. But if he is signable it’s a decent way to end the draft.

I’m guessing it’s just a backup plan in case something comes up in anyone’s medicals and they have space to reallocate
 
Watching the home run derby last night reminded me of when the All-Star Game was here in Toronto in '91 at the brand new SkyDome. Went to all the events at the time, save for the game itself. All of it was top notch and a whole lot of fun that provides memories still 30 years later (still feels like yesterday, in a respect).

Doubt it'll happen any time soon, especially without a new ballpark, but would love for the ASG to make its way back to Toronto by the end of this decade. Time for the next generation of fans (us along with our kids) to enjoy the same fun and excitement that we did.
 
I'm hoping the Jays stay the course going forward and focus on high ceiling, controllable players. I know everyone wants them to gun it and go all in this season and are repeating "2015!" like it's some sort of mantra, but the AL was actually pretty weak in 2015 and the Jays issues then were less glaring. This season, both wild card spots are held by two teams who have a funny habit of beating the Jays, and they hold 8 game leads over them. Their next two competitors are the Indians, who also handle the Jays quite well, and the Mariners who looked pretty good against them so far. They also have defensive and bullpen issues with no easy fix in sight and their best hitters aren't experienced veterans who could turn it on seemingly at will in 2015.

Since the team seems to have the answers already, they just need their bullpen guys to get healthy and work on defense, I say they should let everyone get healthy and see what happens. If the return of Merryweather and such is more than enough to win, great; otherwise, stay the course, focus on long term gains, and keep building a team that can compete for the long term. No rentals. Heck, I'd even suggest trading Semien. You get Biggio regaining his home run form and Springer getting his timing back and you've already made back Semien's offensive production.

Jays took a player named Juan Gonzalez, im trying to figure out if he has any relation to thee Juan Gonzalez to check off the bloodline requirement.

I'm hoping for a perfect clone.
 
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The Orioles went presumably way underslot at 5 and then drafted only 1 high school player who was not ranked by mlb.com, and only 1 guy ranked above where they picked him(257th, ranked 230). Are they just paying Cowser slot at 5, overpaying college guys, or are they just cheap? I still don't get it.
 
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The Orioles went presumably way underslot at 5 and then drafted only 1 high school player who was not ranked by mlb.com, and only 1 guy ranked above where they picked him(257th, ranked 230). Are they just paying Cowser slot at 5, overpaying college guys, or are they just cheap? I still don't get it.
That's just baffling. Do they have any baseball guys making decisions, or is it the bean counters? I truly feel sorry for Orioles fans. No hope.
 
Orioles fans on a board I read are very upset and do not know what is going on either. Most recent theory is maybe they are keeping costs down to sell the team in the near future.
 
Orioles fans on a board I read are very upset and do not know what is going on either. Most recent theory is maybe they are keeping costs down to sell the team in the near future.
At this point that’s the best thing the O’s fans can hope for. Ownership that won’t spend on international talent and won’t even draft properly to save money is an absolute nightmare. They won’t spend in free agency. To top it all off they live in the hardest division in baseball. Man I sure hope TB fans know just how incredible their front office is
 
Most interesting picks from Draft Day 3
Pick 332, Blue Jays: Trenton Wallace, LHP, Iowa (No. 237)
The 22-year-old southpaw won Big Ten Conference Pitcher of the Year honors after posting a 2.34 ERA with 106 strikeouts in 73 innings. His best pitch is a low-80s slider that works well against both righties and lefties.

Pick 422, Blue Jays: Damiano Palmegiani, 3B/OF, College of Southern Nevada (No. 245)
Palmegiani, who was born in Venezuela but raised in Canada, stands out for his present power and ability to spray the ball well all over the diamond. He could end up anywhere from third base to left field to first base because of defensive deficiencies, putting more pressure on the bat.

Pick 602, Blue Jays: Luke Holman, RHP, Wilson (PA) HS (No. 172)
Standing at 6-foot-4, Holman throws 90-94 with his heater and gets good spin on both that and his grade-55 curveball. He is more about projectability than pitchability at this stage. The right-hander, who beat anaplastic large cell lymphoma as a kid, is committed to Alabama.
 
My prediction: I know many will take issue with this, and even more so because it is based on nothing but my gut reaction - i think we will look back on his draft and it will be very underwhelming. Again, just a prediction based on nothing, but every team has a stinker of a draft every now and then and i think it will be this one.

That being said i know a few outlets think the Jays had one of the better drafts considering they had the second lowest draft pool this year. One writer says they were a winner just by getting Hoglund alone.
 
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My prediction: I know many will take issue with this, and even more so because it is based on nothing but my gut reaction - i think we will look back on his draft and it will be very underwhelming. Again, just a prediction based on nothing, but every team has a stinker of a draft every now and then and i think it will be this one.

That being said i know a few outlets think the Jays had one of the better drafts considering they had the second lowest draft pool this year. One writer says they were a winner just by getting Hoglund alone.
I honestly just wasn't expecting much from this draft from pretty much the minute we drafted Springer. I still think it is dumb that teams lose draft picks for signing free agents lol. Just gotta sit back and if anything tangible does come from the draft in the next couple years then great.
 
My prediction: I know many will take issue with this, and even more so because it is based on nothing but my gut reaction - i think we will look back on his draft and it will be very underwhelming. Again, just a prediction based on nothing, but every team has a stinker of a draft every now and then and i think it will be this one.

That being said i know a few outlets think the Jays had one of the better drafts considering they had the second lowest draft pool this year. One writer says they were a winner just by getting Hoglund alone.

Given that our three highest picks were a pitcher recovering from TJ surgery and two other really raw pitchers that are almost purely projection, and we had one of the lowest bonus pools in the league to work with, your prediction isn't out of the realm of possibility at all. At least you made sure to emphasize that you were just guessing.

I think that as expected under this new regime, their draft once again shows very good execution. They have shown very meticulous budgeting of the slot allotment and even with a super-low total this year, you're seeing another example of clearly well thought out planning and sequencing of picks. There is good variety here as well, with a solid mix of player-types and some legitimate upside guys.

At a quick glance within the first 10 rounds, they got a major-conference performer who wouldn't have been available to them if not for injury (ie: definite upside at #19 overall), two highly-projectable young pitchers who will need a lot of development (Tiedemann is actually less than 2 months older than Irv Carter - they're both essentially HS aged), a "high floor" SEC performer in Chad Dallas, a cluster of college pitchers who are supposedly data/analytics picks with some intriguing qualities, and they even managed to squeak in a HS position player - albeit he is obviously more off-the-radar in order to even be signable in the range he went.

From 10-20 they landed several legitimately interesting players, notably Tirotta and Palmegiani. Tirotta has loud tools with above-average to plus power, plus or better speed, and plus or better arm strength. He didn't hit much at all in his first few collegiate seasons, started this season poorly, but then went on a tear to end the season. He'll probably flop due to his bat, but perhaps he's figured something out, in which case his tools are actually legitimate - that's about as exciting as you can get for a 12th rounder. Palmegiani is kind of similar in that he has big power and even performed extremely well in JUCO this season, but he hasn't faced much good competition - he also "looks" the part. Again, for a 14th round pick, you're not likely to find anything much more exciting than that (save for taking a signability HS kid who fell and paying them much more than slot). They managed to land another HS pitcher with the Canadian kid - he's a super long-term project with minimal experience, but supposedly already flashing 90-94. The very last pick - Luke Holman - looks like a semantics pick on behalf of the kid or a backup option in case something happens with signability elsewhere, but if they somehow landed that signing on top of the rest of the class then it would actually be pretty incredible.

All in all, the main thing to remember is that Austin Martin actually signed for more money than our ENTIRE Top 10 bonus allotment for this class. To land as many obviously interesting/upside players as we did with the mix that we put together, is an easy success IMO. Whether or not any of these guys develop or not is another story entirely, but I can't find serious fault with anything they did or their execution.
 
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