Post-Game Talk: Viktorious Forses - Predators 4, Jets 0

[AlphaLackey]

If we want to break down where you went wrong, it starts in your first sentence (i.e., "one side flouts the rules by *****ing about the team/coaching decisions in the team GDT") which isn't actually against the rules whereas *****ing about posters is actually against the rules. So you've got it exactly backwards. Then you followed that up with a lot of unintelligible twaddle - like where you said "one side would be completely placid if not for agitators" but anyone who spent an hour in English Lit would know that placid is not the right word here bc if one side were truly placid, they would not be bothered by people who question the coaching decisions. Finally, you accused me of a false equivalency but since whining = whining, its not a false equivalency. Its just an equivalency.

First of all, you did the exact same thing you're accusing me of, and you did it first, so anything I've done, at worst I'm merely as bad as you and given that A. you instigated it and B. one side is committing two wrongs, I'm the lesser and later of two evils. So no, you've got it exactly backwards.

Secondly, "placid" is not an absolute stillness but a near absolute one, and nothing in the definition suggests an undisturbable nature ("*not easily* upset. Calm *with little movement*"). It's a fine fit and gets the point across, and anyone that spent even one hour in English lit would know that

Thirdly, it is a false equivalency, both sides are not on an equal moral plane. One side is breaking rules first and worst. One side would continue to break the rules in absence of the other; the other would not. It is a false equivalency to suggest both sides are equal.

Is that clear enough? Could you keep up? If you need me to type it again but slower, just let me know.

 

[jetsforever]

Jets better show up for Game 7 - would hate to lose like this

 

[tntkid]

Hellebuyck played great.

The rest of the team let him down and did not show up.

 

[GNP]

Jets better show up for Game 7 - would hate to lose like this

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Right on !! --and if we're going to lose--let's go down fighting !!!

 

[Blue Shakehead]

First of all, you did the exact same thing you're accusing me of, and you did it first, so anything I've done, at worst I'm merely as bad as you and given that A. you instigated it and B. one side is committing two wrongs, I'm the lesser and later of two evils. So no, you've got it exactly backwards.

Secondly, "placid" is not an absolute stillness but a near absolute one, and nothing in the definition suggests an undisturbable nature ("*not easily* upset. Calm *with little movement*"). It's a fine fit and gets the point across. and anyone that spent even one hour in English lit would know that

Thirdly, it is a false equivalency, both sides are not on an equal moral plane. One side is breaking rules first and worst. One side would continue to break the rules in absence of the other; the other would not. It is a false equivalency to suggest both sides are equal.

Is that clear enough? Could you keep up? If you need me to type it again but slower, just let me know.

The "sure, I am wrong, but you are more wrong and you were wrong first" defence doesn't seem like a winning strategy. Of course its a bit shallow when you don't deal with the accusations directly, but just bundle them together and throw them back. I responded to a post that was in ALL CAPS whining about people who were upset after the game and suggested we weren't real fans. You responded to me, not the other way around so you can add "instigating" to the list of words you employ but don't seem to have a good handle on.

I think we can get to the bottom of this if you could explain how I would be breaking the forum rules by bitching about players/coaches in the GDT? Although there are some equivalencies between the two sides - there are some key differences. For instance, I never hear anyone on my side trying to tell you how to be a fan. We just don't care enough about you and we aren't easily offended by alternative opinions within the fanbase. Some might even describe us as placid.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

I've studied all the fine opinions in this PGT. Based on this treasure trove of knowledge, here's the plan for next game:
- Get rid of Enstrom, who is playing very well.
- PMo has to come up with more strategy and make adjustments, but think less, because he's overthinking things.
- We need to shake-up the lines, but also go back to the tried-and-true lines.
- The Preds are using a useless, out-dated defensive model, but they're playing excellent defensive hockey.
- We should sit Little, in exchange for someone else we will crucify Maurice for playing.
- The series is almost literally dead even in every measurable fashion, but the Jets have been totally outplayed and outcoached.
- This game wasn't lost due to a lack of effort, but it was definitely lost due to a lack of effort.
- We should change what colour of clothing we wear as fans.
- This is invaluable experience for a young, rising team, but also the Jets' last chance at being competitive.

I hope the Jets coaching staff is reading this. We've got it all figured out.

 

[grieves]

Alright, we got the away team advantage back. The Preds are in trouble.

They have completely dismantled our PP. They are attacking Buff because he is not the quickest puck-mover. And a Buff blast they can live with. Static and crappy PP when they can even gain the zone.

Poor efforts by many. Good effort by Nashville. They played like they were just humiliated at home.

This series deserves a game 7 so it's fine. We may even have some kind of psychological advantage for next game, but who knows.

We are playoff noobs so at the end of the day we are doing fine. Just win though, noobs.

 

[AlphaLackey]

The "sure, I am wrong, but you are more wrong and you were wrong first" defence doesn't seem like a winning strategy.

It's not about a winning strategy, it's about being accurate.

Of course its a bit shallow when you don't deal with the accusations directly

Wrong again.

but just bundle them together and throw them back.

Responding to people who instigate can look that way to people who don't think they're starting things.

I responded to a post that was in ALL CAPS

Wrong again, and not even close.

whining about people who were upset after the game and suggested we weren't real fans.

Nope. Wrong again.

You responded to me, not the other way around

Your post was the first one to contain an irrelevant personal attack, not mine. Wrong again.

so you can add "instigating" to the list of words you employ but don't seem to have a good handle on.

And you can add "all" to the list of words you don't seem to have a good handle on. You do however have a perfect handle on the word "hypocrite".

I think we can get to the bottom of this if you could explain how I would be breaking the forum rules by *****ing about players/coaches in the GDT?

Are there, or are there not rules, about trolling a team's fanbase in their GDTs and in their team forum, in ways including but not limited to shitting all over the team's players and coaches?

Although there are some equivalencies between the two sides - there are some key differences. For instance, I never hear anyone on my side trying to tell you how to be a fan.

Because I'm not the one flouting the rules. I'm not the instigator. I'm not the problem.

We just don't care enough about you and we aren't easily offended by alternative opinions within the fanbase. Some might even describe us as placid.

You don't need to care about me at all. You and your ilk just need to stop being the problem. Not very hard.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

The only guys who seemed to not give up after the first goal looked to be Perreault, Tanev and Connor(maybe Ehlers too). Everybody seemed like they gave a half effort when moving the puck.

We really choked. After a game like that I don’t expect to win the next one. I give us a 30% chance at doing so. If we are gonna win we need to be capable of scoring first, the stars on this team need to play with more effort(especially Laineand Buff after that game).

 

[AlphaLackey]

I've studied all the fine opinions in this PGT. Based on this treasure trove of knowledge, here's the plan for next game:
- Get rid of Enstrom, who is playing very well.
- PMo has to come up with more strategy and make adjustments, but think less, because he's overthinking things.
- We need to shake-up the lines, but also go back to the tried-and-true lines.
- The Preds are using a useless, out-dated defensive model, but they're playing excellent defensive hockey.
- We should sit Little, in exchange for someone else we will crucify Maurice for playing.
- The series is almost literally dead even in every measurable fashion, but the Jets have been totally outplayed and outcoached.
- This game wasn't lost due to a lack of effort, but it was definitely lost due to a lack of effort.
- We should change what colour of clothing we wear as fans.
- This is invaluable experience for a young, rising team, but also the Jets' last chance at being competitive.

I hope the Jets coaching staff is reading this. We've got it all figured out.

Yeah this trove can't get buried again fast enough

 

[Farmboy Patty]

What would happen if the Jets countered the Preds trap wiath a trap of their own? All the preds do is flip the puck out of their zone and then chase it with hard pressure on the Jets D. It seems to me that they are not as comfortable in the drivers seat against the Jets, since that opens up their game. I think the Jets should just give them a taste of their own medicine in their own barn and bore the audience to death until the game opens up.

 

[AstrophysicalJet]

Trade all three! If we are lucky we get Thorbs, Stu and Burmi back.

If you did not watch the game and only read this thread, you'd think Ehlers had stunk all PO and He and his 13 min toi lost this game..

 

[Hockeyholic]

Hellebuyck played great.

The rest of the team let him down and did not show up.

Except the first goal. He let in some stinkers in game 5 too. Team bailed him out.

It was clear early on they didn't have it. Inexcusable in a game of this magnitude. If they lose game 7, it's on them. Three chances to put your foot on their throat. Three misses. Each lose has gotten worse than the previous one.

 

[GJF]

You have no right winning a playoff game with a pathetic PP effort on 4 PPs like that.

Preds deserved to win this one for sure.

I said it from the day we clinched on: My heart says we're going to the Finals but my brain knows that we end up losing to Nashville in 7. I feel like that's pretty safe now

 

[EpicGingy]

Good news is that if the current series pattern holds up, the Jets are due for a win in Nashville.

 

[DangerDave]

What would happen if the Jets countered the Preds trap wiath a trap of their own? All the preds do is flip the puck out of their zone and then chase it with hard pressure on the Jets D. It seems to me that they are not as comfortable in the drivers seat against the Jets, since that opens up their game. I think the Jets should just give them a taste of their own medicine in their own barn and bore the audience to death until the game opens up.

I'd rather see them clobber the preds 6 1 or something. Its clear the Jets are the better team when the preds open up their play.

 

[Maukkis]

I didn't think this many fans would forget that the Preds were the team facing elimination, not the Jets.

 

[raideralex99]

Preds deserve to win this game ... they were the better team. They did get the lucky bounces on the first 2 goals but the Jets just did not seem interested in winning tonight other than Connor and Helle.
But seriously for being a #1 seed the Preds are a disgrace and should be a shamed of themselves for having to play the boring trap game to beat a team below them.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Well, that certainly couldn’t have gone worse. Not even a goal for the crowd to celebrate. Barely a minute of game time before we’re down a goal and chasing. Man. Gotta hand it to the Preds, they played it pretty much perfect after getting a gift from the hockey gods for their first goal. Sucks...


Oh well. Let’s see if there’s anything left in the tank for one more game.

 

[ps241]

Lets not sugar coat the epic failure to give a **** in games 4 and 6 of this series by the Jets, both games we're a slap in the face to their fans!

Two teams lace up and they both try to win Sip. Both teams have taken turns embarrassing the other. Nashville is f***ing good and they got their pound of flesh last night.

Vent away I am pissed too but this is what it looks like when two every even teams go at it. We didn’t choke they played really well last night.

Shit happens.

 

[Jimby]

The one thing I have learned from watching the Jets this year is when Buff spends all game skating slowly up the ice looking like a guy trying to play a cerebral game while the forwards wait patiently for him to decide who to pass to - the Jets lose every time and in the post game Maurice will talk about how the jets were not playing fast. It all seems to begin with Byfuglien. Just like all those horrid 3 on threes we endured this year.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

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This could turn out to be very true. We have a lot of young guys, that look a little intimidated by the "big stage"--and huge crowds. They will have to find something special within themselves to pull out this Game 7.

It just appears like Ehlers, Laine, Roslovic and guys like Little--have not come out with their A game--and that's what it will take to knock off these hungry Preds- nothing less than a 100% effort will be acceptable. If you lose--then do so-- but go down fighting with some pride.

Do you really think that the players dont try to give their 100% in every playoff game? If you do, you are a fool. I am sure that everyone gives everything they have left, and if it looks like laziness then they are probably tired and thats all they gave to give. Watching who are tired its obvious that its the young guys, because their endurance is not (and cannot be, nature has made sure of it) at its its best yet. That comes later, with training, conditioning and age.

 

[Edgar Halliwax]

Crazy series. And home ice is an advantage in the playoffs because why exactly?

 

[Deedog99]

What a pathetic display by the home side last night. No leaders. No drivers. No heart and no give a shit. Embarrassing effort. Terrible PP. good luck in game 7

 

[White Out 902]

I've studied all the fine opinions in this PGT. Based on this treasure trove of knowledge, here's the plan for next game:
- Get rid of Enstrom, who is playing very well.
- PMo has to come up with more strategy and make adjustments, but think less, because he's overthinking things.
- We need to shake-up the lines, but also go back to the tried-and-true lines.
- The Preds are using a useless, out-dated defensive model, but they're playing excellent defensive hockey.
- We should sit Little, in exchange for someone else we will crucify Maurice for playing.
- The series is almost literally dead even in every measurable fashion, but the Jets have been totally outplayed and outcoached.
- This game wasn't lost due to a lack of effort, but it was definitely lost due to a lack of effort.
- We should change what colour of clothing we wear as fans.
- This is invaluable experience for a young, rising team, but also the Jets' last chance at being competitive.

I hope the Jets coaching staff is reading this. We've got it all figured out.

An internet forum with hundreds of die hard fans had an emotional response to a crushing playoff loss? You don't say.

This is a really obnoxious post.