henchman21
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The trailer shows a lot of that same silliness… we literally have a woman twerking on a moving car being called a dumptruck. Florida.
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The trailer does seem to indicate the silliness I'm fond of is present, but I'm still going to keep my expectations in check. When interviewed, the devs flat out said they were making a more serious game. And unless I read something from them that points to the contrary, I'm gonna keep those expectations low.
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Very interesting, I just cycled back on to it a couple weeks ago because I was planning to try out Monster Train and wanted to be able to compare it with the OG of the genre, and, yeah, it's cripplingly addicting.
I had beaten the secret Act 4 boss with one character when I played a couple years ago, and this time I decided that I wanted to beat it with all the characters. I am toying with the idea of playing a few Ascension levels too.
Which Ascension are you playing on?
Rockstar can't miss IMO. GTA and Red Dead are bangers irregardless of their pricing schemes or DLC choices. GTA 6 will be no different. Super excited for it.
A bigger problem for me is that Rockstars storylines sort of suck. Original Vice City was the best of any of them and I quite liked GTA IV as well even though the city sucked. RDR I probably had the second best storyline from the company and even though RDR II was a superior game compared to any game they've made in the past, I thought the story was solid, but suffered from a ton of cliche Hollywood writing and character development. It felt they copied too many of the 1870s gunslingers and just put all of them in a camp together. Actually a lot of their games tend to be based off of famous Hollywood movies/real life characters where you ain't getting anything new.
E: Cyberpunk's vanilla and DLC storylines have been a breath of fresh air to a GTA-esque world.
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I never beat GTA IV, but I enjoyed it. GTA V played like garbage to me, it's the only game I ever refunded on Steam. I really loved RDR (crossing into Mexico was one of my all time favorite moments in a game), and even if RDR2 was a better "game", I still enjoyed RDR more. But one thing I've always hated about Rockstar is the shooting mechanics have always been dogshit.
I wouldn't mind another game set in the LA Noire universe, that one had some fun moments as well. I'll probably pick up GTA VI when it hits the $20-30 mark like I have with the rest of them.
I wouldn't mind another game set in the LA Noire universe, that one had some fun moments as well. I'll probably pick up GTA VI when it hits the $20-30 mark like I have with the rest of them.
I hate their walking and running mechanics, it's way too realistic at times and way too unrealistic at other times for its own good and really lets it down. I can't tell you how many times I run and barely touch a moving car and fall like every single bone in my character's body was broken lol. The action mechanics are also pretty bad, but I have more sympathy for them there because third-person is sort of limited. Thankfully this game should be both 1st and 3rd, which makes for smoother combat. Did you ever play GTAV 1st person? You might like it a lot more now if you haven't.
I thought GTA Online was a pretty big success. I loved the customisation options they gave us even though I played it for three months at most. I just dislike having to pay a subscription for online gaming anymore. Some of the most successful games nowadays are sort of free to play online like Fortnite, LoL, Apex, Dota 2, Halo: Infinity, etc yet game companies still demand most games to play behind a paywall like Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony have done.
henchman21
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I liked GTA V and at the time... late X360 era, nothing else was pulling off what they did. The three protagonists that could be switched on the fly and the heist missions were amazing. I think GTA V deserves all the hype. My favorite in the series is San Andreas though... it was that generation's version of the games taken to absolute perfection.
RDR and RDR2 as also all timers to me. Both are worth all the hype given to them. Yeah there might be some normal tropes they fall into, but the bar is so high on their games too. When you compare it to other similar style games, most just don't hold a candle to these.
The only game I can recall not holding up to the hype was GTA 4 (though BoGT was amazing). Bully, Manhunt, Max Payne 3, etc are all good. I'd expect the same level here. If not it will be widely panned.
Though I agree with @S E P H on CP2077. It isn't a direct same style of game, but close in the open world action game sort of thing... and they have done such a good job with that game over the past 2 years. All the BS of the launch is gone and we keep getting a better and better game as time goes on (today's update is yet another step forward too). CDPR is probably the best AAA action RPG developer going. TW3 and CP2077 are two of the best of the genre. Sucks we are also probably looking at 2025 at the earliest to their next major game.
RDR and RDR2 as also all timers to me. Both are worth all the hype given to them. Yeah there might be some normal tropes they fall into, but the bar is so high on their games too. When you compare it to other similar style games, most just don't hold a candle to these.
The only game I can recall not holding up to the hype was GTA 4 (though BoGT was amazing). Bully, Manhunt, Max Payne 3, etc are all good. I'd expect the same level here. If not it will be widely panned.
Though I agree with @S E P H on CP2077. It isn't a direct same style of game, but close in the open world action game sort of thing... and they have done such a good job with that game over the past 2 years. All the BS of the launch is gone and we keep getting a better and better game as time goes on (today's update is yet another step forward too). CDPR is probably the best AAA action RPG developer going. TW3 and CP2077 are two of the best of the genre. Sucks we are also probably looking at 2025 at the earliest to their next major game.
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I agree with all of this. As Matt Margini wrote in the Boss Fights Book on RDR (which, by the way, is my all time favorite book about any video game, highly recommended it), we have to suffer through the "college-dorm-film-buff tastes of the Houser brothers" in the GTA games. The fact that they do get recognition for their writing just shows how painfully low the bar is for narrative in AAA games. I do think, however, that RDR does add some new dimensions to the Western genre by virtue of its interactivity, cliches notwithstanding.
I wholeheartedly agree with this too. I think the first Red Dead Redemption is far and away Rockstar's best game. There is just too much narrative dissonance in RDR2 with the main character pushing towards reformation while you as the player wantonly murder scores of people without blinking. And then there's that bit where the game suddenly becomes Uncharted and we get whisked away to a tropical island for some reason. I, for one, don't care about how realistic horse poops are, but would have rather had a more cohesive narrative and a more involved exploration of the New Orleans stand in.
I agree with you that CP2077 feels more like an open-location Destiny game than a true GTA open-map concept. However, I keep bringing up GTA with CP2077 because Night City reminds me a lot of Los Santos both in San Andreas and in GTA V. I absolutely love the RPG elements CDPR gave Cyberpunk though, adds a ton of element and depth in the game compared to Rockstar's eating and physique game mechanics that are put in the game for being tedious. I can love San Andreas because they put Los Angeles, San Fran, Area 51, and Las Vegas/Reno in the game, but I can't love how they put eating, exercising, and all the athletic stuff in the game.
The biggest thing about Rockstar is that their games are cliche themselves, most of their games have depressing endings where people expect it. You can get away with that writing twist once in RDR I, but when they did it again in RDR II, it felt stagnant for me. I thought RDR II story was good in itself, but you already knew that someone from your camp was going to betray you (because Rockstar game). It came across as lazy writing from my point of view. And the games that don't have depressing endings, have endings that simply do nothing.
GTA V heists in the story mode were great, but the characters just felt lacking. If someone had to work with Trevor that long, he would've had a bullet in his brain after the second mission lol. The two other characters, Michael is just a stereotype of doing white-collar crime and Franklin is another stereotype of someone from Compton. Another really poor writing and the final mission felt lacklustre. CP2077 had a lacklustre final mission as well, but made up for it with the four or five missions that went to the final one. *Spoilers* Having your character die, get revived, and then currently die while helping a crazy future samurai on an impossible mission to hijack a futuristic float to get access to an impenetrable room was super satisfying, at least for me...
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UncleRisto
Not Great, Bob!
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I never played any of the GTA games. I’ve seen my friends play, I was just never interested.
UncleRisto
Not Great, Bob!
I tried a couple of them at some point and I've seen a bunch, but everything but the racing stresses me the f*** out.
Oh, an increasing amount of guys with guns are trying to chase me down and kill me? I love games that are recurring nightmares!
I gotta admit, I think all the wet blankets crying foul over violence in movies and video games are idiots, but those games made even me blanch.
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Rockstar has such good business sense lol. I'm primarily a PC gamer (also have a PS5 in the living room for NHL series). I'm going to get GTA for the PS5 because it's coming out first for consoles and then I get the PC version when it comes out since it's always better. Those bastards know they'll sell the game twice to PC players since a lot of PC gamers also have a console. They got us by the balls.
Lol this always cracks me up. I always play as a female when I can (at least for 3rd person games). Especially if I'm going to be playing for 30+ hours. No way I'm staring at a man's ass for that long
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I don't get sexually aroused when I play video games.Lol this always cracks me up. I always play as a female when I can (at least for 3rd person games). Especially if I'm going to be playing for 30+ hours. No way I'm staring at a man's ass for that long
Maybe that's just me.
henchman21
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If the writing is good… who the F cares? Ciri in TW3 is awesome and her segments are some of the best written in the game. Horizon… I tired of Aloy pretty quickly.
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I don't either, doesn't mean I want to stare at a man's ass for 30 hours.
Maybe that's just me
Drytoast
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I'm not a chick. I kind of like my video game protagonists to be an extension of me.
The closest person who looks like me in this game is being talked down too by the chick.
Never seen that before!
