Confirmed Signing with Link: Vesey signs with the New York Rangers

[Yatzhee]

Good for the Rangers. Not so good for Vesey's next contract given the state of the Rangers team and prospect depth.

 

[JT Kreider]

Center depth isn't the issue. Stephan isn't a high end #1C. Hard to win a Cup without one. Not easily acquired aside from the draft.

Stepan/ Zibanejad / Hayes vs.

Crosby / Malkin / Bonino
McDavid/ Draisaitl/RNH
Eichel/Reinhart/O'Reilly

Unless they play like Krejci and Bergeron, those are good match ups for the Rangers in a few years.

Sabres fans are all too aware. We went from Drury, Briere, Roy, Connolly to just Roy and Connolly. Never able to win the match ups. Lack of a high end 1C and center depth is the reason the Sabres chose to tank.

In other words we are screwed because we've been a playoff team since the lockout and haven't been able to draft in the top 5?

I guess it's great to suck.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Center depth isn't the issue. Stephan isn't a high end #1C. Hard to win a Cup without one. Not easily acquired aside from the draft.

Stepan/ Zibanejad / Hayes vs.

Crosby / Malkin / Bonino
McDavid/ Draisaitl/RNH
Eichel/Reinhart/O'Reilly

Unless they play like Krejci and Bergeron, those aren't good match ups for the Rangers in a few years.

Sabres fans are all too aware. We went from Drury, Briere, Roy, Connolly to just Roy and Connolly. Never able to win the match ups. Lack of a high end 1C and center depth is the reason the Sabres chose to tank.

2 of those deep high end center combos may not even qualify to compete for the cup

 

[Yatzhee]

Girardi will most definitely be bought out next summer, unless some crazy rebound happens and he starts playing like a Norris candidate again (won't happen). Some team run by idiots that appreciate character over skill will probably trade for Staal (again not likely but there's a decent chance, despite what anyone says)

And lastly I'm not sure what you're getting at with the Rangers not being a deep center team. They have some of the best center depth in the league.
Stepan, Zibanejad, Hayes, Miller, Lindberg, Jooris is a deep centered team.

The Rangers have issues, and I agree that youth isn't the end all be all, but I firm6ly believe the team will be back as a serious cup contender in two seasons or less

Cup Contender?
Not reality. The Rangers are a team in the down side of their cycle. They won't be relevant for 5 years minimum.

 

[The Toews Era*]

And that peak lasted how long lol?

Long enough to win two cups

 

[darko]

Long enough to win two cups

Yes he's the sole reason they won.

 

[BB88]

In other words we are screwed because we've been a playoff team since the lockout and haven't been able to draft in the top 5?

I guess it's great to suck.

Can you disagree?
Would be great to hear someone even once really answer to those concerns.

 

[gorangers0525]

Seems like the worst possible place for him to go.. a team going downhill, with putrid contracts.. NYI, Chicago, and Pittsburgh all would have made more sense

Lol @ Islanders being a team going "uphill"

 

[Der Jaeger]

In other words we are screwed because we've been a playoff team since the lockout and haven't been able to draft in the top 5?

I guess it's great to suck.

Never wrote that - that's been you're counter argument to every Rangers' critique.

Rangers are a good team with good youth, a true #1D (an essential building block for Cup winners), and an elite goalie.

Rangers do not have a high end #1 center. Top line centers of post-lockout Cup winners: Staal, Getzlaf, Datsyuk, Crosby, Toews, Krejci, Kopitar, Toews, Kopitar, Toews, Crosby.

Not impossible. But Stepan and Zib need to play like Krejci and Bergeron in 2011. Even then, the Bruins Only cruised in one series. 3 seven game series.

 

[JT Kreider]

Can you disagree?
Would be great to hear someone even once really answer to those concerns.

We've beaten Pittsburgh in the playoffs in 2 of the 3 past seasons.

 

[JT Kreider]

Never wrote that - that's been you're counter argument to every Rangers' critique.

Rangers are a good team with good youth, a true #1D (an essential building block for Cup winners), and an elite goalie.

Rangers do not have a high end #1 center. Top line centers of post-lockout Cup winners: Staal, Getzlaf, Datsyuk, Crosby, Toews, Krejci, Kopitar, Toews, Kopitar, Toews, Crosby.

Not impossible. But Stepan and Zib need to play like Krejci and Bergeron in 2011. Even then, the Bruins Only cruised in one series. 3 seven game series.

You mean we need Lundqvist to play like Tim Thomas?

 

[darko]

Lol @ Islanders being a team going "uphill"

They can be. They've got 3-4 good forward prospects in the pipeline.

 

[The Toews Era*]

Yes he's the sole reason they won.

His 2012 performance is better than anything lundqvist has ever done, so yes his peak where his .946 sv pct led to a cup is something lundqvist hasnt reached. Its not like lundqvist also had a .946 year and his team let him down, he has never been at that level in a cup run.

 

[Der Jaeger]

2 of those deep high end center combos may not even qualify to compete for the cup

True. cup winning formula:

High end #1 center and great center depth.
#1 D who can skate a ton of tough minutes
Roster depth

Rangers have 2/3. The high end center is the most difficult to acquire.

 

[34]

All this hype for a 3rd/4th liner.

 

[Der Jaeger]

You mean we need Lundqvist to play like Tim Thomas?

Red herring. Keep avoiding the high end center topic. You can't win it.

 

[LeetchisGod]

They can be. They've got 3-4 good forward prospects in the pipeline.

I'll believe it when I see it. They've had top 10 picks for years and have accomplished very little so far.

 

[Blueblood2]

He is best buddies with Hayes, and NY is NY. He'll regret it in 2 years, but for now him and Hayes can cruise the Big Apple.

Yeah...he'll regret not living in Buffalo HAHAHA

 

[BB88]

We've beaten Pittsburgh in the playoffs in 2 of the 3 past seasons.

This isn't the same team anymore. There's not a 1 game changer on the roster and lacking true #1C is a huge issue.
I see the Rangers like the Bruins have been the last 2 years.

What does the Rangers have that the Pens, Tampa, Washington, Florida doesn't have?
Just make it easy for next year from the East.

 

[darko]

His 2012 performance is better than anything lundqvist has ever done, so yes his peak where his .946 sv pct led to a cup is something lundqvist hasnt reached. Its not like lundqvist also had a .946 year and his team let him down, he has never been at that level in a cup run.

It is. So based on that lone playoff run Quick is a better goaltender than Lundqvist? Is that what you trying to say?

 

[darko]

I'll believe it when I see it. They've had top 10 picks for years and have accomplished very little so far.

I know which is why i said they could be.

Sat they wont be is just as bad as they will be.

 

[aufheben]

Cup Contender?
Not reality. The Rangers are a team in the down side of their cycle. They won't be relevant for 5 years minimum.

Lol people talking about this on here like it's the sun rising and setting.

He gets to play with a talented group of forwards in New York City. I know it's Cup-or-bust on here but maybe the guy's actual, you know, quality of life matters to him?

 

[JT Kreider]

This isn't the same team anymore. There's not a 1 game changer on the roster and lacking true #1C is a huge issue.
I see the Rangers like the Bruins have been the last 2 years.

What does the Rangers have that the Pens, Tampa, Washington, Florida doesn't have?
Just make it easy for next year from the East.

Yeah, this team is younger.

Except the Rangers have made the playoffs both seasons. The Bruins haven't.

So go in every other teams threads outside of the top 4 and tell them that they have no chance like you're doing with us. I hope that makes you feel better about yourself. Telling someone their team has no chance. Ok mighty one. Tell me more about what happens in the next few years. Since you seem so in tune with what is going to be happening in the future.

 

[Human]

You mean we need Lundqvist to play like Tim Thomas?

good luck getting to play the Pens coached by idiots like Bylsma and Johnston and without 2/3 of their D corp and Malkin again.

 

[JT Kreider]

good luck getting to play the Pens coached by idiots like Bylsma and Johnston and without 2/3 of their D corp and Malkin again.

Malkin played in every series we've played against PITT.

But according to this logic:

HEY TAMPA FANS: GUESS WHAT!!! YOU BEATING US IN THE ECF? TOTALLY NULL AND VOID. SINCE WE WERE WITHOUT MCDONAGH AND ZUCCARELLO

BOSTON FANS: SINCE CROSBY AND MALKIN WERE INJURED IN 2011, THAT CUP YOU WON? NULL AND VOID.

(As if injuries aren't a part of the game and every team deals with them.)