Seravalli: Vegas looking to terminate Lehner deal after he failed to report for physical

SomeDude

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Go argue with the NHL and NHLPA:

“(Robin) will not be reporting to the club this year,” Vegas GM Kelly McCrimmon said Thursday. “He continues to be unfit to play. There are unique circumstances surrounding this situation that the NHL, the NHLPA and (Vegas) are working through. Collectively, we are assessing our next steps, and when we have more to say, we will.”

Golden Knights' Robin Lehner makes statement after camp absence
That is PR/lawyer talk for anything is on the table.

The unique situation could very well be that he’s the first player in NHLPA history to refuse to report to camp to fail a physical and continue to get paid.

To me, it reads that they very well could be looking into terminating his contract. When an organization says they’re assessing their next steps, it rarely works out well for the individual involved.
 

AcerComputer

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That is PR/lawyer talk for anything is on the table.

The unique situation could very well be that he’s the first player in NHLPA history to refuse to report to camp to fail a physical and continue to get paid.

To me, it reads that they very well could be looking into terminating his contract. When an organization says they’re assessing their next steps, it rarely works out well for the individual involved.
As stated there are unique circumstances, because the player is unfit to play and is on the player assistance program, which is a rare way to end up on LTIR. They obviously recognize it is not fair to terminate the contract, simply because he did not show up for a physical, while knowing his situation. I guess worse case scenario the NHL could fly a doctor out to perform the physical, if he was unable to fly there himself.

Per Robin Lehner, "All I can say at this time is everyone knows why I couldn't be there. I am waiting calmly for things to be sorted out."
 

Bruce Granville

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They obviously recognize it is not fair to terminate the contract,

Per Robin Lehner, "All I can say at this time is everyone knows why I couldn't be there. I am waiting calmly for things to be sorted out."
I don‘t think they recognised anything. It‘s more the NHLPA stepping in and making clear there would be consequences.
Especially since they already knew Lehner isn‘t fit to play and they most likely had told him not to bother to show up.

Fleury and Marchessault are clear evidence they don‘t recognise a lot…
 

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I'm on disability for serious mental health issues, if I don't have the proper medical reports to give to the insurance company (and the government for disability pension), then I get nothing. I have panic attacks whenever I leave my home, and I still have to go. Why should he be any different because he plays hockey?
I’m in the same boat, except my panic attack stem from a mass on my brain and symptoms they cause.


Have some compassion.
 

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I'm on disability for serious mental health issues, if I don't have the proper medical reports to give to the insurance company (and the government for disability pension), then I get nothing. I have panic attacks whenever I leave my home, and I still have to go. Why should he be any different because he plays hockey?
Sorry to hear that. I think it's a dangerous fallacy to assume Lehner is in the exact same scenario as you and has the same exact options as you or vice versa. Given the total lack of information however - it's easy to speculate to fill in those holes. My initial reaction was "instant contract breach and termination" as I assumed Vegas would have already been in the know if there was something underfoot. Like, you gotta at least call in sick. There's a thing in the USA called work abandonment. Interesting that they have doubled back on their previous statement.
 

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No need, just do what every team has done recently...
1)terminate the contract
2)PA files grievance
3)team pays player, nhl is okay with no cap obligation

That’s not how it works. Every grievance settlement where the terminated player was paid included a cap hit for the team equal to the payments.

Mike Richards, Evander Kane, Corey Perry et al.
 

DisgruntledHawkFan

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I'm on disability for serious mental health issues, if I don't have the proper medical reports to give to the insurance company (and the government for disability pension), then I get nothing. I have panic attacks whenever I leave my home, and I still have to go. Why should he be any different because he plays hockey?
Because life isn't fair and Lehner is special.
 

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I'm on disability for serious mental health issues, if I don't have the proper medical reports to give to the insurance company (and the government for disability pension), then I get nothing. I have panic attacks whenever I leave my home, and I still have to go. Why should he be any different because he plays hockey?
I'm sorry you have to deal with that but my guy that's life. If you're in the .0001 percentage of the population life is just different.
 

AcerComputer

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I don‘t think they recognised anything. It‘s more the NHLPA stepping in and making clear there would be consequences.
Especially since they already knew Lehner isn‘t fit to play and they most likely had told him not to bother to show up.

Fleury and Marchessault are clear evidence they don‘t recognise a lot…
Were their contracts terminated? The point of my reply, was that Lehner's contract is unlikely to be terminated, simply because he did not show up to take a physical. The NHL, NHLPA, etc are involved, and he is waiting to hear on next steps. They could always fly a team doctor out to perform the exam if they had to.
 

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More Lehner shenanigans.


I have plenty of sympathy for mental health issues, but at some point this guy just has too much nonsense going on that can't all be explained away. I hope he figures it out, but my sympathy has dwindled.
 
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His company Solarcode screwed over some very prominent Vegas business people

Surprised he had time to even play the goalie position with the complexity of how much he was funneling money to dubai, and Barbados bank accounts.
 

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More Lehner shenanigans.


I get the vibe he's mixed up with some shady characters, because a lot of what he's accused of seems somewhat sophisticated. Dude is a hockey goalie, what does he know about setting up shell companies in Dubai? Or solar utility scams in foreign countries with fake invoices?

I know his dad was a business partner and is one of his codefendants, it makes me wonder if there could be shades of a Jack Johnson situation. (Obviously Jack the younger was completely unaware of his dad's dealings, while in this instance it seems Robin is an active participant)

Also, it seems more and more likely to me that Lehner skipped the VGK physical in order to avoid being served papers when he touched down in the US.
 
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Yeah after reading this Ottawa Citizen article from 2014, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that his dad ends up being a big piece of the puzzle. Comes across as a manipulative a-hole.

Still on an ELC back then but you can see the beginnings of what turned out to be a pattern of reckless/impulsive extravagant spending.
 

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