Peasy
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Vegas plays with different rules.
I guess they found a new way to make it work. Wonder if there’s going to be a sufficient degree of transparency for what changed / under what abstract circumstances cap is now allowed to disappear.That’s not how it works. Every grievance settlement where the terminated player was paid included a cap hit for the team equal to the payments.
Mike Richards, Evander Kane, Corey Perry et al.
What exactly do you think a fair solution to this would be?Vegas plays with different rules.
If players on other teams decide to not report to camp, then I imagine they would indeed ask for similar relief. Can you show me another recent instance of that happening?Absolute BS, every other team needs to ask for similar relief for their bad contracts and if denied sue the league. It's anti-competitive at this point.
Looks to me like what the NHL agreed to is that if a player doesn’t report to your team they don’t have to count towards your team’s cap. Can anyone actually tell me why this is unfair or do people just hate Vegas so much that they don’t even care if what they’re saying makes sense?That is a pretty major precedent. Just put on some pounds, and you'll get paid and the team gets cap relief. Does the NHL understand what they just agreed to?
Forget Robidas Island, we now have Lehner Island!!!
Yes.Looks to me like what the NHL agreed to is that if a player report to your team they don’t have to count towards your team’s cap. Can anyone actually tell me why this is unfair or do people just hate Vegas so much that they don’t even care if what they’re saying makes sense?
Looks to me like what the NHL agreed to is that if a player report to your team they don’t have to count towards your team’s cap. Can anyone actually tell me why this is unfair or do people just hate Vegas so much that they don’t even care if what they’re saying makes sense?
Would think people would still want to make sure their criticisms even made sense so they didn’t just end up looking foolish but I guess not!Yes.
This is HFBoards, you expect too muchWould think people would still want to make sure their criticisms even made sense so they didn’t just end up looking foolish but I guess not!
Did you even read what happened here? Vegas had a real case to void the deal but didn’t actually care about the real money and likely wanted to avoid a battle with the PA so he’s still getting paid. Would you have preferred they went for termination and gotten completely off the hook?If they don't report then the contract is voided... you can't have it both ways, yet here we are. Given that they've also repeatedly abused LTIR without punishment, people are well within right to believe that Vegas is being governed by a completely different set of rules than the rest of the league. It's shady at best and outright corruption at worst.
You need to take off that tinfoil hat...Does it make sense to pay a player *not* to play for your team? Does it make sense to sign a contract, have that contract count toward the salary cap, and then suddenly decide -- no it doesn't?
I understand everyone's positions here. The fact remains that Vegas signs guys, has them not count toward the cap with non bona fide hockey injuries and gets cap reliefs no other team has ever sought. That's ... hate? It's special rules for special guys.
It’s just a new way of circumventing the cap. Not a shot at Vegas, but for teams that sign players that are older, LTIR relief isn’t the only game in town now.Looks to me like what the NHL agreed to is that if a player report to your team they don’t have to count towards your team’s cap. Can anyone actually tell me why this is unfair or do people just hate Vegas so much that they don’t even care if what they’re saying makes sense?
Well I think most of the remaining salary is getting garnished, so it maybe keep local creditors onside.I find it interesting that Vegas only asked for cap relief rather than a full-out termination, which IMO they were entitled to. Looks like they tried to do Lehner a solid, but since it's Vegas everyone is bitching and whining
well yeah, but they would've requested this before the freezing of his assetsWell I think most of the remaining salary is getting garnished, so it maybe keep local creditors onside.
Would you have preferred they went for termination and gotten completely off the hook?
Good one. The point is that if Lehner doesn't do a physical -- neither failing nor passing -- Vegas can't legitimately LTIR him. Unlike Stone, there's nothing shady about it. This is a slightly inelegant solution but it satisfies the NHLPA and Lehner and to an extent the league and Vegas.I find it interesting that Vegas only asked for cap relief rather than a full-out termination, which IMO they were entitled to. Looks like they tried to do Lehner a solid, but since it's Vegas everyone is bitching and whining
You need to take off that tinfoil hat...
Pretty sure the overwhelming majority of players who sign big contracts don’t refuse to report to their training camp physicalIt’s just a new way of circumventing the cap. Not a shot at Vegas, but for teams that sign players that are older, LTIR relief isn’t the only game in town now.
I believe they have already, so by not terminating the contract to help local creditors recoup... other wise they get nothing because there's nothing to garnish. Honestly I'm just spitballing for something that makes sense.well yeah, but they would've requested this before the freezing of his assets
Absolutely, but now the older ones who want to retire can do so and get paid.Pretty sure the overwhelming majority of players who sign big contracts don’t refuse to report to their training camp physical
Clearly you don't grasp what is happening.Good one. The point is that if Lehner doesn't do a physical -- neither failing nor passing -- Vegas can't legitimately LTIR him. Unlike Stone, there's nothing shady about it. This is a slightly inelegant solution but it satisfies the NHLPA and Lehner and to an extent the league and Vegas.