Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

[Jerkbait]

If you dont need a 40 + goal and 50+ assist center dont trade for him. Big difference having Eichel
Then krebs . Eichel can do stuff like 4 other centers In this league can do skill Wise

Like mcdavid Mackinnon Crosby Matthews Barkov leon point Kopitar etc??? Eichel is a tad overrated

 

[Empoleon8771]

An Eichel to Vegas trade is probably going to be something like Theodore, Smith, Brisson and a conditional 1st for Eichel and conditional picks if I had to guess.

 

[iginlafan77]

Like mcdavid Mackinnon Crosby Matthews Barkov leon point Kopitar etc??? Eichel is a tad overrated

Kopitar doesn't belong in that group

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

You’re missing the point. They went to the cup their first year, so none of these marquee trades have done what they were supposed to do. All it’s done was cripple their future.

No, I get the point. The team is the most successful expansion franchise the NHL has ever seen, and saying "Cup or bust" every year after a Cinderella run is absurd.

They've been to the conference Finals twice in the last 2 years. How many other teams can say the same?

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

I cannot see how Vegas comes out ahead in this. Outside Eichel's injury he has also shown to have major attitude problems over the last couple of years.

I'd say most players who are top class would've been sick of being at Buffalo over the last 5 years. Knowing the will to win of the likes of Crosby and MacKinnon, they'd have probably acted no different.

The guy can see his career being wasted if he sticks around longer. I wouldn't be surprised to see his attitude improve a lot on a competing team.

That's not to say he has acted like a model pro.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

If Eichel was tradeable he would've been traded by now. Buffalo is asking the moon for him, and I can't blame them, but no team is going to give fair market value for a player in Eichel's condition with his contract. As for me, I wouldn't want the Wings trading for him with his cap hit and the possibility that he may return with permanent lasting effects due to the neck injury and surgery. 10m per for a guy who may have long-term extremity weakness due to nerve damage and an injury that can easily recur in a high-speed contact sport? No thanks.

 

[CupInSIX]

I cannot see how Vegas comes out ahead in this. Outside Eichel's injury he has also shown to have major attitude problems over the last couple of years.

Reminds me of what they said about ROR

 

[centipede2233]

If Eichel was tradeable he would've been traded by now. Buffalo is asking the moon for him, and I can't blame them, but no team is going to give fair market value for a player in Eichel's condition with his contract. As for me, I wouldn't want the Wings trading for him with his cap hit and the possibility that he may return with permanent lasting effects due to the neck injury and surgery. 10m per for a guy who may have long-term extremity weakness due to nerve damage and an injury that can easily recur in a high-speed contact sport? No thanks.

Yeah it’s about weighing the pros and cons, and the cons win here. It’s just not worth it.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

If Eichel was tradeable he would've been traded by now. Buffalo is asking the moon for him, and I can't blame them, but no team is going to give fair market value for a player in Eichel's condition with his contract. As for me, I wouldn't want the Wings trading for him with his cap hit and the possibility that he may return with permanent lasting effects due to the neck injury and surgery. 10m per for a guy who may have long-term extremity weakness due to nerve damage and an injury that can easily recur in a high-speed contact sport? No thanks.

All NHL teams and most fans know Eichels trade value is extremely lower than if he was healthy. The return won't be near the return the odd fan thinks it will be. Majority of people on here know it will be a significantly lower return with some key conditional picks... he's a 10 million dollar salary with extremely serious health issues that is very risky... also probably won't play this season at all.

I myself wouldn't even consider trading for him, but for entertainment sake, I hope he is traded somewhere soon

 

[BatVader]

I’m shocked Calgary isn’t more in on him.. I thought for sure that would be Eichels eventual destination.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Like mcdavid Mackinnon Crosby Matthews Barkov leon point Kopitar etc??? Eichel is a tad overrated

Didnt say he was better then everyone just say he can do stuff on the ice like Mac cros matth Leon only can do skill wise then there are maybe more then them They are better but skill Wise its like only
5 centers WHO can do these stuff like Eich

 

[Spazkat]

Reminds me of what they said about ROR

To be fair a lot of the suspected issues around ROR had to as much to do with getting drunk and crashing into the Tim Hortons as it did on ice behavior

 

[Fatass]

If Eichel was tradeable he would've been traded by now. Buffalo is asking the moon for him, and I can't blame them, but no team is going to give fair market value for a player in Eichel's condition with his contract. As for me, I wouldn't want the Wings trading for him with his cap hit and the possibility that he may return with permanent lasting effects due to the neck injury and surgery. 10m per for a guy who may have long-term extremity weakness due to nerve damage and an injury that can easily recur in a high-speed contact sport? No thanks.

And this is exactly why the Sabres should have supported Jack in his choice of surgery back in June when he wanted to first get it done. Jack would be playing now and the trade return would be so much more than what it is now. Pretty much the Sabres ruined their asset’s value. Makes no sense.

 

[These Are The Days]

This is exactly.

First it seemed Vegas can't do anything wrong, almost won the cup at first try.
But now, i think they are slowly becoming a laughing stock of the NHL, its like..

...they can't do anything right at the moment

I was so on the Golden Knights hype train, but now ive jumped off,
off a train crash to be.

The thing is every year they sort of start to level off and the moment they do they go for another huge fix like Stone, Pietrangelo and now Eichel. If they do something like trade Tuch too to Buffalo for the sake of Eichel they're just taking apart all the support the team needs to win

 

[BatVader]

The thing is every year they sort of start to level off and the moment they do they go for another huge fix like Stone, Pietrangelo and now Eichel. If they do something like trade Tuch too to Buffalo for the sake of Eichel they're just taking apart all the support the team needs to win

GKnights are becoming more of a Vegas tourist attraction, over an NHL team.
I can already see the TV ads…… “Come to Vegas, play some slots, see a show, go watch some big name hockey players… Vegas has it all,

 

[Foppberg]

I’m shocked Calgary isn’t more in on him.. I thought for sure that would be Eichels eventual destination.

What could they offer though? Don't really have a lot of high end pieces, unless they were willing to deal Gaudreau/Tkachuk.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I'd trade Tuch for Eichel...It's Jack Eichel.

 

[deVolt]

Reminds me of what they said about ROR

ROR trade return is a negative aspect for Vegas, Makes Adams more careful to not make the same mistake as the former GM.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

What could they offer though? Don't really have a lot of high end pieces, unless they were willing to deal Gaudreau/Tkachuk.

Zary/Coronato + 1st + another prospect or player.

If Vegas doesn't put Krebs on the table I'd much rather get something like that from Calgary.

 

[Foppberg]

Zary/Coronato + 1st + another prospect or player.

If Vegas doesn't put Krebs on the table I'd much rather get something like that from Calgary.

Ah. I guess I just don't Calgary very well because I never heard of those two prospects lol

 

[flashsabre]

And this is exactly why the Sabres should have supported Jack in his choice of surgery back in June when he wanted to first get it done. Jack would be playing now and the trade return would be so much more than what it is now. Pretty much the Sabres ruined their asset’s value. Makes no sense.

Or they supported his surgery that the doctors didn’t let him get, it did’t work, Eichel is now done and they got nothing for him.

 

[CupInSIX]

The thing is every year they sort of start to level off and the moment they do they go for another huge fix like Stone, Pietrangelo and now Eichel. If they do something like trade Tuch too to Buffalo for the sake of Eichel they're just taking apart all the support the team needs to win

I think it has more to do with Chandler Stephenson being their #1C than leveling off...

That plus keeping Eichel away from a division rival.

 

[Ace]

And this is exactly why the Sabres should have supported Jack in his choice of surgery back in June when he wanted to first get it done. Jack would be playing now and the trade return would be so much more than what it is now. Pretty much the Sabres ruined their asset’s value. Makes no sense.

It’s not like Kevyn Adams is sitting around deciding on these things without any input.

He hasn’t had the surgery because doctors don’t want him to have the surgery.

this gets lost repeatedly in this discussion.

Sabres doctors won’t approve of the surgery.

 

[CupInSIX]

ROR trade return is a negative aspect for Vegas, Makes Adams more careful to not make the same mistake as the former GM.

As far as ROR being considered a bad leader, getting himself into off-ice trouble and his comments were taken to mean he was complaining and quitting on his team?

 

[These Are The Days]

Things are starting to look Grim even if they do win the cup. This isnt the fast and explosive team they started with..

Worst case is they do get Eichel, bleed even more resources, and still keep the downward trend.

Winning the Cup is stupid difficult. It took the Lightning like 5 more tries AFTER losing the SCF to Chicago. There is no guarantee they'll even get it done with Eichel in tow. Every time you trade a young, cost controlled prospect for a vet, you keep the window open with a better player "now" but artificially shorten it at the same time because no one is there to supplant your losses.

Time is now for VGK to cash in because these big moves will catch up eventually