Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

[Jim Bob]

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

The main piece would be a forward, Young center, a D and a first rounder .
Sabres need D . They can make sure there D is all set to make a impact going forward having power Dahlin joki and Theodore make this happen. They play with speed so theo makes sense . Then They get the prospect C in Krebs and a good Young forward that suits the age in Tuch and a pick . Makes no sense taking smith. They need to wait this out til They get something as this. Hague brisson are also players that could be involved so if not trading Theo add briss and hague for him instead .

See I would imagine somehing like Tuch, Krebs, Hague and a conditional pick could be a idea potentially but obviously VGK needs to send more salary back so it doesn't seem like that would work.
Plus I would assume that pick would be conditional

It would be a very tricky trade to make. There is a TON of risk trading for Eichel

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Vegas dont have much choice. Think Adams going to get all 4 pieces he wants in this trade. Sabres Will winn this trade. Vegas GM and owner Will give in and loose this trade big time . I think They Belive Hague is emerging as a top 4 D so thet can afford Theo and then sabres want Tuch and krebs. The only is that the 1 pick can be conditional. That the sabres can afford to offer . Be glad its not Theo Krebs Tuch Brisson/Hague you trade

 

[The don godfather]

Krebs is the centerpiece for this trade for buffalo if it happens no doubt about it.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Vegas dont have much choice. Think Adams going to get all 4 pieces he wants in this trade. Sabres Will winn this trade. Vegas GM and owner Will give in and loose this trade big time . I think They Belive Hague is emerging as a top 4 D so thet can afford Theo and then sabres want Tuch and krebs. The only is that the 1 pick can be conditional. That the sabres can afford to offer . Be glad its not Theo Krebs Tuch Brisson/Hague you trade

Sorry are you thinking it's Theodore, Tuch, Krebs and a 1st?

That is way too much. No chance VGK comes close to that.

I really hope a return like that isn't what Sabres fans are counting on, cause I don't see it ever happening

 

[NoelVilla]

Vegas shouldn't really be in on this. They don't have the cap or the package to do it in a way that makes them better. Need depth in todays NHL.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Yes thats why you need to include him. Sabres dont want nothing for Eichel. Adams Said he really was going to make sure he was doing this trade the right way as the cant afford to mess this one up as the O Reilly trade. They dont wait this long to accept a shit offer

I mean the fact that they are even dealing with Vegas makes me assume the offer isn’t going to be up to Buffalo expectations cause I don’t think Theo will be in move.


That being said what Buffalo fans consider a bad offer… is pretty irrational anyway considering how everything has gone down

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Vegas shouldn't really be in on this. They don't have the cap or the package to do it in a way that makes them better. Need depth in todays NHL.

They are in on everyone.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Vegas dont have much choice. Think Adams going to get all 4 pieces he wants in this trade. Sabres Will winn this trade. Vegas GM and owner Will give in and loose this trade big time . I think They Belive Hague is emerging as a top 4 D so thet can afford Theo and then sabres want Tuch and krebs. The only is that the 1 pick can be conditional. That the sabres can afford to offer . Be glad its not Theo Krebs Tuch Brisson/Hague you trade

So what are you expectations on a potential ducks kings or flames trade


I mean good for Sabres if they get that package tho I feel it’s unlikely

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Sorry are you thinking it's Theodore, Tuch, Krebs and a 1st?

That is way too much. No chance VGK comes close to that.

I really hope a return like that isn't what Sabres fans are counting on, cause I don't see it ever happening

It should be. If not keep Eichel. Let him have his surgery. Thats the point go get something good back . Sabres should take None less then theo and Krebs . Maybe Tuch and the first can be changed to something else . But The and Krebs should be the main piece. If not wanna to include a good D for a first C its aint happening . Give to take . Sabres Will not wait 1.5 years to finally just settle with players that havent prove anything. Take Krebs he have 1 point in NHL in like 12 game. No goals . Why should sabres just settle with him ? He could end being nothing. They then need to have Theo as the main piece having a Young c in Krebs . Then for cap purpose Tuch as he fits the age in sabres. The first I dont really care about But these other 3 pieces is a must . If not there no point waiting this long to only get Smith Krebs first or something . Thats a shit return . Late first Smith dosent fit the age and Krebs not proven any . Then Eichel put Ups 40+ goals and 50 + assist . Sabres look like idiots again .

 

[sr edler]

Calgary are rolling right now. You don't interrupt that by trading for someone with a broken neck.

Vegas I can see move in, because they're desperate for attention. Buffalo should ask for Shea Theodore and run all the way to the bank.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Cant afford just give away Eichel for players like Smith . Need quality that would be Theo and Tuch and Young in Krebs that fits the sabres Tomelilla. Thats the point in this trade

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Cant afford just give away Eichel for players like Smith . Need quality that would be Theo and Tuch and Young in Krebs that fits the sabres Tomelilla. Thats the point in this trade

Have to keep in mind though that Eichel is a huge question mark. Sure a healthy Eichel could potentially get a massive return (similar to what u have been saying) from VGK but a huge question mark that makes 10 mill a year brings the return down significantly. It'll be a conditional pick heavy trade

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Say like this in any trade with Eichel sabres should be able chose 2 players . Whatever They want from vegas . The other 2 pieces should be agree upon . So sabres take Krebs and Theo atleast . Of They cant get that its a big Joke. Then nobody in these League can get any good players back in a return. Vegas should of They trade for Eichel expect him to be his best coming back and sabres should wiev it this way also so the return should favor Buffalo

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Cant afford just give away Eichel for players like Smith . Need quality that would be Theo and Tuch and Young in Krebs that fits the sabres Tomelilla. Thats the point in this trade

The point of the trade is to get rid of an injured star player who is publically demanding a trade

 

[centipede2233]

Cant afford just give away Eichel for players like Smith . Need quality that would be Theo and Tuch and Young in Krebs that fits the sabres Tomelilla. Thats the point in this trade

I wouldn’t trade Theodore straight up for eichel. Theodore caphit is amazing

 

[iginlafan77]

Not sure about chemistry here, Monahan is a member of the core in CGY while Eichel has not been captain material in BUF by all accounts, hard to know if he or BUF management is the problem (even though given BUF history…). By the way, Monahan is playing down the lineup right ? With Lindholm, Dube Backlund Monahan aren t you set at center ? Don t you think CGY would rather look for wingers rather than a star center at this point ?


I have not noticed Eichel being really good defensively in the games I have seen from him (OTT and MTL esp. that I am following) .

If there was an elite young winger available like this, I'm sure the Flames would be in on it. But if a talent like Eichel is available, you can make the positions work later. Lindholm and Dube have both already played significant time on the wing in Calgary

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I wouldn’t trade Theodore straight up for eichel. Theodore caphit is amazing

I agree 100%. I wouldn't trade them 1 for 1 right now either. Theos crazy low Cap hit and Eichels huge health issues make it awful

Seems like there is alot of downplaying as to just how serious Eichels injury situation is

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

The point of the trade is to get rid of an injured star player who is publically demanding a trade

Dosent matter he Signed a contract with Buffalo . He playes for Buffalo dosent matter what he says or wants. Sabres can tell him to get the surgery he wants then expect to play out his contract with the sabres and suck it up .

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

I agree 100%. I wouldn't take them 1 for 1 either. Theos crazy low Cap hit and Eichels huge health issues make it awful

Seems like there is alot of downplaying as to just how serious Eichels injury situation is

Eichel Will be 100 % okey after the surgery . So nothing worry about. Then you cant get Eichel if not trading Theo .

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Eichel Will be 100 % okey after the surgery . So nothing worry about. Then you cant get Eichel if not trading Theo .

How do you know he will be 100% healthy? If that info was correct, there would be a TON of teams across the league interested. But its not correct and that's why many teams want nothing to do with a Eichel trade.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Quality for quality . Krebs and Theo as main piece for Eichel . + 2 other pieces that mat be Smith mat be Tuch mat be a first or a conditional first. The main pieces is Krebs and Theo nothing less . I Think vegas Will lose this trade big time

 

[ottomaddox]

Sorry are you thinking it's Theodore, Tuch, Krebs and a 1st?

That is way too much. No chance VGK comes close to that.

I really hope a return like that isn't what Sabres fans are counting on, cause I don't see it ever happening

Vegas will no doubt have to pay big. You can deflect/deny all you like, but a player like Eichel is going to return 4 assets. One being a 1st, a roster player, an A-level prospect, and a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Dosent matter he Signed a contract with Buffalo . He playes for Buffalo dosent matter what he says or wants. Sabres can tell him to get the surgery he wants then expect to play out his contract with the sabres and suck it up .

That’s fine, teams don’t need eichel specially when he’s injured…. They can just wait till his ntc kicks In. The reason teams are interested now is the potential discounted price…. If that’s not there teams will let Buffalo sit on it

if Vegas does tuch 1st krebs and Theodore …. Vegas is dumb and going to ruin any chance at a cup

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

How do you know he will be 100% healthy? If that info was correct, there would be a TON of teams across the league interested. But its not correct and that's why many teams want nothing to do with a Eichel trade.

if you trade for him you should expect him being ok after surgery.