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Vegas about to circumvent cap again? UPD: Mark Stone back practicing.
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A1LeafNation
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Because they can’t? This is written into the CBA with the NHLPA. It’s not something the NHL can just stop.
Not sure if you’ve ever been around a union environment, but you can’t start making amendments to a legally binding contract before the bargaining phase begins again
Thanks for agreeing with me.
If you're only reading the first sentence, I guess I can too. Why did you delete my following sentence just to try and make it seem I didn't provide anything more?
My suggestion would be to have the regular season cap is $83.5 million and then increase it to $87-88 million at the deadline. Then keep the cap active during the playoffs. Then teams have to decide who sits, do you play with a roster of 19 instead of 20 so you fit a higher paid player but all players have to remain under the cap.
Would likely encourage more activity at the deadline with teams taking on cap if they're out of it and making their team more competitive with adding in some extra talent. Gives teams the opportunity to have the best team possible for the playoffs.
Fair enough, I didn't realize this particular feature of the cap was in the cba, but that makes sense. Don't they regularly negotiate/change rules around this sort of thing though without needing a whole new CBA? if it's really the case that nothing could be done, hopefully they solve this next time they negotiate the CBA for the sake of the on ice product.
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It was brought forward and the NHL owners didn’t want it changed. It’s a tool that’s available for all 32 teams and can help all 32 teams, why would they want to get rid of it?
The owners like it, the players association likes it and the other players seem not to mind it. Know the only people who complain about it? Fans
archangel2
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If people are pissed now? Wait till Vegas ices a full healthy team for game 1 of the playoffs
Do the owners like it? Do players not mind it? I imagine some do and some don't. I guess the fairness of the on ice product is something only some fans care about which is how pro sports goes. It's kind of lame though if you care about that sort of thing
Ted Hoffman
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You're welcome. I guess.
It's a free forum, you're welcome to read as much or as little as you want.
Because the rest of it:
(1) rehashed ideas previously offered, which
(2) I've repeatedly explained why they won't work, but
(3) It didn't stop you from lobbing it yet again like it was some new, fresh, unthought of idea, so
(4) I figured it wasn't worth refuting an 18th time because it's incredibly unlikely that's suddenly going to have an impact, because
(5) Even if I do that, someone else is still going to blow right past it and lob it out a 20th time as if repeating it yet again makes it make any more sense, and
(6) It probably still won't resonate with you based on my experience with others, because I think perhaps one person has realized oh, yeah, this isn't as simple as I thought.
I leave it to you to read back through the rest of this thread, see why your idea will not work. If you just want to read the first sentence of everything, that's OK too. I couldn't care less.
Ted Hoffman
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They could - it's happened before - but ... it takes two sides to do that.
As you note elsewhere: neither side seems that bothered about it to reach out to the other and say OK, we think a change is needed, let's work on this and get something done. But as I've said numerous times: the solution is already in the CBA. It requires enforcement of Article 26, something the league has shown zero interest in doing [outside of one time going after New Jersey for the Kovalchuk contract when the Devils did the same stuff other teams were doing but that stuff might be really questionable, but we're going to allow it; this is really questionable, we're finally going to do something.]
And then for a real throwback, the Blues will have to forfeit 1st round picks to both the Devils and Lou Lamoriello.
Not the Islanders, to Lamoriello personally.
Vegas07
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Another loss. 4 straight home losses. The only team we can beat is the Sharks.
And people think this is part of a plan to help us win a cup? Makes no sense.
And people think this is part of a plan to help us win a cup? Makes no sense.
There’s a difference between a player being injured and a strategy that involves letting said player heal up at a slower pace for the opportunity to bring in another player or two that would more than compensate for that original player’s loss while then having all of them for the playoffs.
Right but Eichel has been out for weeks while Vegas have been starving for his offensive contribution. Anyone who thinks they're keeping him out longer than he needs to be is out to lunch.
Why is everyone crying about Vegas? Tampa had Kucherov out a couple of years ago until the playoffs. Leafs have buried bad contracts with LTIR. What’s the difference? You can go the other way too. Arizona has abused LTIR to reach the floor on countless occasions. How about 2 years ago when so many Vegas players were out and they missed the playoffs?
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MadLuke
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That not like this went under the radar, Kucherov did wear a 18M over the cap shirt that summer because a lot of people were talking about it.
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Eichel is a different story, My point is Vegas would probably rather have Stone on LTIR and a Guentzel for the regular season and then both for the playoffs than just a Stone at 75% and no Guentzel in the playoffs.
Using LTIT is one thing, abusing it so you can bring in more guys and then suddenly everyone’s healthy by game 1 of the playoffs is sketchy.
Vegas07
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Apparently we don’t get injuries to star players. They are all faked.
