Post-Game Talk: Vancouver Millionaires vs. Detroit Winged Wheelers - We Still Suck

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Zack Kassian

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Is it AVs fault that Luongo can't stop 40 footers? Or that Edler and the Sedins simply
Pass on the perimeter on the PP?

I blame him for no Garrison on PP tho.

But it's clear that Gillis keeping guys like Booth, Higgins and Lappy is the problem

when things aren't going well sometimes the team needs a shake up, and the coach has to go.
 

WinterEmpire

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Is it AVs fault that Luongo can't stop 40 footers? Or that Edler and the Sedins simply
Pass on the perimeter on the PP?


Yes that part is his fault, that's a PP system decision which he is ultimately in charge of.

Also Luongo played poorly last game, absolutely no reason to start him today besides giving him a chance for revenge for the last Red Wings game, which is ultimately a gut decision. Something a good coach wouldn't be doing.
 

SillyRabbit

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Thanks!
 

Canucks LB

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Guys just look at the ****ing roster this team has, Just look at the lines right now without kesler.

It's below average
 

John Bender*

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Yes that part is his fault, that's a PP system decision which he is ultimately in charge of.

Also Luongo played poorly last game, absolutely no reason to start him today besides giving him a chance for revenge for the last Red Wings game, which is ultimately a gut decision. Something a good coach wouldn't be doing.

Starting Luongo made no sense. Luongo will be gone for a while here again now anyway.
 

LiquidSnake

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Higgins is a very good depth player. He is not hte problem. Lappierre as the 4th line centre is not the problem. The problem is the top 6 that consistently do nothing offensively.

You can't fire or replace the top 6 - but you can change the coach and see if that has an impact.

Won't make a difference.

Garbage that needs to be jettisoned:
Higgins
Lappy
Sestito
Booth
Raymond
Tanev

These guys are a ****in dime a dozen.

And dump Edler. Sick of him too
 

Tiranis

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Or that Edler and the Sedins simply
Pass on the perimeter on the PP?

Yes. If you think that's their doing then you're completely underestimating to what extent a coach controls what goes on out there.

More to the point, what about our breakouts which are designed by AV and have been completely unsuccessful at getting us any sort of transition game this season? That also happens to be affecting our offensive game.

AV also has no clue on how to coach offensive plays in general. If you watch teams like Red Wings, Babcock has about 20-30 set plays that his players try in games. We have none outside of the Sedins and they come up with those themselves.

With Red Wings, you can even see that with their affiliate as coaching those set plays starts at that level.

Guys just look at the ****ing roster this team has, Just look at the lines right now without kesler.

It's below average

And Ottawa is icing an AHL team. Still ahead of us in the standings while playing in the toughest division. That's what we have an expensive coach for.
 

Seatoo

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Fire AV and promote Arneil. Seriously. It literally can't get any worse but at least we wouldn't have to listen to his BS post game remarks
 

LiquidSnake

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Yes that part is his fault, that's a PP system decision which he is ultimately in charge of.

Also Luongo played poorly last game, absolutely no reason to start him today besides giving him a chance for revenge for the last Red Wings game, which is ultimately a gut decision. Something a good coach wouldn't be doing.

He made them do push-ups when they over passed on the PP. didn't work. Not sure what the next step is. Sit them?
 

Canucks LB

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Won't make a difference.

Garbage that needs to be jettisoned:
Higgins
Lappy
Sestito
Booth
Raymond
Tanev

These guys are a ****in dime a dozen.

And dump Edler. Sick of him too

Wow Tanev is in that list? really?
 

Samzilla

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Why? He sucks.

Another bad Gillis trade.

You say ballard sucks, but when the options after ballard are alberts and barker...you've gotta play ballard. I don't know what in the high hell alberts has poured in AV's drink to become his new coach's pet.
 

John Bender*

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Won't make a difference.

Garbage that needs to be jettisoned:
Higgins
Lappy
Sestito
Booth
Raymond
Tanev

These guys are a ****in dime a dozen.

And dump Edler. Sick of him too

Tanev? Really??

None of those players has been the problem. The scorers are not scoring and the goalies are stopping the pucks. That's the problem.
 

CanadianPirate

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Is it AVs fault that Luongo can't stop 40 footers? Or that Edler and the Sedins simply
Pass on the perimeter on the PP?

I blame him for no Garrison on PP tho.

But it's clear that Gillis keeping guys like Booth, Higgins and Lappy is the problem

What's the problem with Booth, Higgins and Lapierre? They perform the roles they were brought in to do... Higgins is a solid 3rd/2nd liner, Booth is statistically a 2nd liner and Lapierre is a solid fourth line center. I would argue the powerplay is the coaches problem since the set up is very poor.
 

Pip

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Won't make a difference.

Garbage that needs to be jettisoned:
Higgins
Lappy
Sestito
Booth
Raymond
Tanev

These guys are a ****in dime a dozen.

And dump Edler. Sick of him too

Higgins and Raymond have done well this season and Tanev has been rock solid.

Is the inclusion of those players some kind of a joke?
 
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