This. Imo the only way to acquire a long term answer in net is to draft and develop one and hope you get lucky. Need to start by drafting them though...
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Speculation: Vancouver Canucks are asking for Kadri + Bozak or Kadri + Gardiner for Luongo
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This. Imo the only way to acquire a long term answer in net is to draft and develop one and hope you get lucky. Need to start by drafting them though...
Kegs
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IMO your idea of trading away your teams top line centre and your best center prospect is laughable. The leafs are bottom dwellers. Why would the sign an old goalie who is arguably on the decline for your teams future. Who will play center when u make this trade? Vancouver is in need of a centrean so no way they sending one in return. Luongo won't get u in the playoffs if you dont have any one to play the face offs and back check.
topched
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Why do you think we would be winning in spite of him?
There are a ton of goalies who have performed well into their late 30's and even on occasion at 40. Who says he'd be middling? Certainly I don't think Luongo will still be a top 10 goalie into his late 30's, but I DEFINITELY think he can be a top 15-20 starter... which is something we haven't had since the last lockout... 7+ years and counting.
How can you sya the "assets" are too much to give up? You have absolutely zero clue what it will cost... Unless of course you believe Mike Gillis is a robot controlled by the fans over on the Canucks board.
iArts
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So, tell me, how exactly are you planning on acquiring an elite goaltender in 4 years? You think goalies like Luongo become available every year?
Or maybe you think that we have a goalie prospect who will ever be as good as Lu?
Michael Gary Scott
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Im assuming kadri. If luongo costs limited assets i don't mind at all.
Also, 15-20 is the definition of middling. I don't know if he'll completely fall off the map, but 5.33 for even a top 20 Goalie is an inefficient use of capspace.
Darcy Tucker
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im kind of hoping now no one bites on Luongo and the Nucks and their silly fans are stuck with him as a backup all year.
Maybe Reimer or Scrivens turn into one. Who knows what opportunities will present themselves? Goalies do always seem to become available. Luongo, Price, Halak, Bryz, Some don't pan out when they move. However they do become available.
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topched
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Luongo: Elite, bad contract
Halak: Unknown and unproven at the time of trade. Cost almost an identical prospect as Kadri in terms of value (Lars Eller)
Price: Uhhh... last time i checked he was never available.
Bryzgalov: Arguably worse contract than Luongo
Really you're picking the least of the evils... Luongo's a pretty damn good evil at this point. Unless of course you're willing to hang your hat on the 82 games of total experience that Reimer and Scrivens have had.
Say instead of signing Schneider we traded him for a major piece and kept Luongo as our #1..
Would you still laugh at cancuks fans for saying Biozak + Kadri + 2nd for our #1 Franchise goalie was appalling? Because it very well could have been that way.
Had we traded Schneider, you guys would LAUGH if you were somehow able to steal our #1 goalie for that.
iArts
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So you're putting your money on the fact that maybe we will get really lucky later on. I see.
Liferleafer
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It is nuts how everyone underrates ALL of our players.
I would be a little upset giving up Kadri, yet the Canucks board calls him a bust (he is 21, and is close to PPG in the AHL I think) and flames out anyone (even their own fans) who says Kadri would be a nice return.
I think they would be upset getting Crosby for Luongo
Horrible contract....injury prone. You don,t trade a top 5 elite goalie for scraps like that.
We'll pick him up for nothing, after they buy him out.
Like honestly, the new CBA doesn't help Luongo's value, it more hurts it if anything.
slozo
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Yes, on the world-beating Atlanta Thrashers, he did post his career high of 24 goals, 43 assists, 67 points. I suppose that was his career year (he never did anything better than that and likely won't), but when I say peaked, I mean, his playing ability peaked. As in, we saw what his true value was. Finally. After many years of pain and waiting.
Tell me again why I would want to do that for Kadri instead of accepting a top goalie, not even knowing if Kadri can produce a full NHL season of even 40 points?
Still has a million year contract at a significant price. Still a choker. Still has stupid greasy hair that promotes a stupid stereotype of us Italians
Michael Gary Scott
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Dont include Kadri. Jesus Christ. For once can we PLEASE JUST LET ONE HOME GROWN PROSPECT STAY WITH US.
Kegs
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That's complete robbery. If Vancouver gets that kind of return leaf fans should riot
My opinion only. I suspect our last GM got canned for preparing to pull the trigger on Luongo. So don't worry it ain't happening. We are going to wait.
Liferleafer
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Then trade Schnieder and keep Luongo.
Luongo has a BAD contract. Now, that doesn't take all of his value away. You get a fairly high pick, a good prospect and a fairly good player.
I dunno. Im just saying his best year statistically wasn't with he leafs. I imagine he'd have gotten better than a 2nd coming off a season of nearly 70 pts.
I didn't know the context of the quote. Like i said id trade Antropov and his 4.5mil or whatever it is in a second. Again it can be reasonably assumed his play will deteriorate.
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