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Guys if you want major LOLs head to the main Luongo thread. Read some of the Vancouver fan proposals and laugh yourself to death.
Speculation: Vancouver Canucks are asking for Kadri + Bozak or Kadri + Gardiner for Luongo
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Kadri + Gardiner for Luongo ? LOL this is a joke, i'll burn all my leafs attire if this deal ever goes through. Even 1 for 1 giving away either of the 2 (kadri/gardiner) for that costly pylon luongo is a joke. His best days are long behind him and he comes in with a heavy contract on a season in which the cap is reduced. Going for Luongo is a horrible decision.
We do need a no.1 goalie, but given what the canucks want us to give up and the fact that Luongo isn't the no.1 goalie he once was, it doesn't make any sense to go after him. Aging, declining, ridiculous cap hit and he wont be an impact player much longer. Our core is relatively young, 5-6 years from they'll still be young and athletic enough to perform at a high level...Luongo not so much.
We do need a no.1 goalie, but given what the canucks want us to give up and the fact that Luongo isn't the no.1 goalie he once was, it doesn't make any sense to go after him. Aging, declining, ridiculous cap hit and he wont be an impact player much longer. Our core is relatively young, 5-6 years from they'll still be young and athletic enough to perform at a high level...Luongo not so much.
TrueBlue86
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our leafs are a horrible franchise man, our players would have very little value in most fans' eyes
it's hard for the leafs to ever be dealing from a position of strength with a team like this
that's why you'll get low ball offers
Leafs are a playoff team with Luongo.
If Reimer can play like he did two years ago they are also a playoff team.
But I don't have much faith in Reimer.
If Nonis can get Lou fairly cheap he should do it.
If Reimer can play like he did two years ago they are also a playoff team.
But I don't have much faith in Reimer.
If Nonis can get Lou fairly cheap he should do it.
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Oh the irony; a Vancouver fan just stated that Phaneuf's contract kills any value he once had.
It's as if they don't think before talking/typing.
It's as if they don't think before talking/typing.
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More Vancouver logic:
Edler is worth more than full value; despite this being his last contract year.
Every Leafs player who has one year left has a quarter of their value..
You can't make this stuff up.
Edler is worth more than full value; despite this being his last contract year.
Every Leafs player who has one year left has a quarter of their value..
You can't make this stuff up.
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well you have to give him credit then for keeping up his schtick for 2 years.
he used to be pretty credible till he developed an insane hate-on for Grabo.
The Winter Soldier
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This one is worse,
Give up another Leafs first rounder, that's worked? Just to add Leafs Bozak was the Leafs Best Center down the stretch last year, 8 points in 10 games. -3, Grabo was -6 with only 3 points in 10games. Really original HF boards stuff. Why would we want Raymond? Seen him play? 27, fast, upside, 2 way winger.
How would the top 3 lines look like this:
Bozak Kessel Lupul
Kadri JVR Kulemin
Colborne Frattin Raymond
Connolly Macarthur Orr/Brown
Luongo in net.
A lot more promising than the same lineup we have been icing the past 4 years. The best part, we did not have to deal Gardiner, Rielly, Percy, Nilsson, or Finn. So the loss of Gunnarson can be offset as soon as next season. Holzer, Fraser, Ranger can fill that role this season.
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He got almost 7 million from the fact Luongo is owed 6.7 million plus the next few years in actual dollars. Because of the structure of the deal, the cap hit and the actual dollars are not the same. By the way, the actual dollars are very similar to Lundqvist. That's a lot of cash.
For low budget teams, the actual dollars owed may represent a problem, though probably not for the Leafs. This likely affects the market for Luongo. See www.capgeek.com
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Cash is not a Leafs problem, 5.33 is the going rate for a top goalie, the fact is we haven't had one as well as a #1C since Sundin and Belfour should tell these Leafs fans that if you want to make the playoffs you better get one. But some don't want to break up a losing team. Or trade the Frattin's or the Kadri's, go figure?
crump
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the team was saw in the first half of the season was a playoff team, most good teams were SMOKED
people FEARED the Kessel and Lupul duo
let's assume the team played as hard
add Luango in the equation
?
Darcy Tucker
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hahaha i took a look while eating breakfast and damn is it funny.
they got grabovski in there, bozak + reimer + kadri, phaneuf.....so many options but most dont seem good enough value for luongo.
Yeah... Send Grabo in the deal.... Then the team is the absolute WORST down the middle WITHOUT QUESTION, in the league.
But hey, we get another two-way winger! We can certainly try him at center!
My god, this franchise defines square pegs in round holes.
Ridiculous proposal, spawned out of angst toward our best center.
But hey, we get another two-way winger! We can certainly try him at center!
My god, this franchise defines square pegs in round holes.
Ridiculous proposal, spawned out of angst toward our best center.
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If Luongo makes the Leafs a playoff team, why hasn't Cam Ward alone put the Canes into the playoffs the past year? Ward is still a top level goalie.
Cam ward save % last season: .915. Luongo save % last season: .919.
That's with the team in front of Lou being much better than the one in front of Ward. Keep in mind the Leafs playing in front of Lou will not be as good as the Canucks team and, at best, equal to last season's Canes.
The Habs have a pretty elite goalie in Carey Price, as well and last year's playoffs...nope, it didn't happen.
So, no, Lou alone does not magically push the Leafs into the top 8 in the East.
Cam ward save % last season: .915. Luongo save % last season: .919.
That's with the team in front of Lou being much better than the one in front of Ward. Keep in mind the Leafs playing in front of Lou will not be as good as the Canucks team and, at best, equal to last season's Canes.
The Habs have a pretty elite goalie in Carey Price, as well and last year's playoffs...nope, it didn't happen.
So, no, Lou alone does not magically push the Leafs into the top 8 in the East.
Good post, this is what my thoughts are as well regarding getting Luongu,Canucks fans and majority of people in general can be certain all they like but I think there is no real legit guarantee that Luongu would successfully make us a playoff team this year as well as for another 4-5 years down the road.
Hockey is a team sport, without reliable system and right players in place, nothing is guaranteet.
Btw, I hope the article is true, there shouldn't be an instant emergency for playoffs at the cost of sacrificing our developing young players( kadri, Gardiner, Rielly, Frattin).
Grabo is a special player, not only is he skilled but he has many solid attributes to his game that u don't see very often in players. Without him in the line-up we have zero top 6 C.
Anthrax442
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Gardiner should not be in discussions for anyone less than a 1C coming back. Lolongo and his contact will do more harm.
araisarena
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I posted this in another thread, felt the need to post it here.
If Kadri is traded this will go against everything the fan base and management swore they would never support and repeat from past days. Giving up on prospects for older guys that will only come in and perform for a couple of years is not the way to go. Kadri has done everything that has been asked, was the best player in the 09 training camp but was sent down and crushed, asked to go to juniors and dominate, did that. Asked to make the world junior team and be among their best forwards, he started out as the 13th forward and found his way on the top line and won silver and put up 8 points in 6 games being the third best forward after Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle. Went deep into the playoffs in junior. Asked to get stronger and put on weight, which hindered his 2010 camp, so was sent down and asked to dominate in the AHL, did that. Called up to a struggling Leafs team and asked to provide a spark while only playing 10 minutes a night. 2011 camp was asked to get leaner and faster and that there would be a spot for him, gets hurt, loses his spot to Matt Frattin whom while I like, wasn't producing. Asked to stay in the minors and dominate while waiting for a call up, did so, scores 3 goals in 4 games, cools off in the next 7 or 8 games, only receiving 10-12 minutes of ice time in which Matthew Lombardi and Tim Connolly taking up his minutes with little to no offensive output and gets demoted. Sent down and asked to keep playing hard work on some things and promises the kid a call up. Carter Ashton gets on the team at the deadline, and with one call up left for the team to use, call up Carter Ashton over Nazem Kadri who was blazing in the AHL having 11 points in his last 6 games only to see Carter Ashton in 10 games provide no points averaging 14 minutes a game on the first line with a -10. Nazem gets called up for two games with the emergency recall in which he scores a goal and provides the shootout winner. Now asked to get stronger and leaner this summer, Kadri decides to take matters into his own hands by working with Gary Roberts who does charge his players roughly $15,000 for a summer workout program I know because one of my buddies is apart of bio steel, only to be told he has among the highest body fats on the Toronto Marlies which is happens to be one of the fittest and fastest teams in the AHL, starts of slow, gets benched, finds his game and takes the league into his hands and is at a point per game pace doing everything he has been told and removing the deficiencies in his game for example the neutral zone turnovers, inconsistent defensive play, and bonehead penalties, only to be possible trade bait for a 34 year old declining goalie? If he does get traded, I hope he terrorizes the Leafs every couple of months the Canucks play the Leafs, because this is the same sad story with Boyes, Rask, Neidermayer, the list goes on. This kid has everything you can want in a prospect, the hands, the shot, the vision, playmaking ability, was a leader in Kitchener was a leader in London is a young leader with the Marlies, is always among the best players on the ice wherever he goes, is an offensive spark plug, dynamite on the powerplay and always made the Leafs powerplay better when he was called up, has the speed, seriously what more does the fanbase and brass want from a guy? He is young, he'll be inconsistent, he'll occasionally do take out, he'll have the odd beer, but who are we to scrutinize every little thing this kid does when all he does is follow everything asked of him to do.
If Kadri is traded this will go against everything the fan base and management swore they would never support and repeat from past days. Giving up on prospects for older guys that will only come in and perform for a couple of years is not the way to go. Kadri has done everything that has been asked, was the best player in the 09 training camp but was sent down and crushed, asked to go to juniors and dominate, did that. Asked to make the world junior team and be among their best forwards, he started out as the 13th forward and found his way on the top line and won silver and put up 8 points in 6 games being the third best forward after Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle. Went deep into the playoffs in junior. Asked to get stronger and put on weight, which hindered his 2010 camp, so was sent down and asked to dominate in the AHL, did that. Called up to a struggling Leafs team and asked to provide a spark while only playing 10 minutes a night. 2011 camp was asked to get leaner and faster and that there would be a spot for him, gets hurt, loses his spot to Matt Frattin whom while I like, wasn't producing. Asked to stay in the minors and dominate while waiting for a call up, did so, scores 3 goals in 4 games, cools off in the next 7 or 8 games, only receiving 10-12 minutes of ice time in which Matthew Lombardi and Tim Connolly taking up his minutes with little to no offensive output and gets demoted. Sent down and asked to keep playing hard work on some things and promises the kid a call up. Carter Ashton gets on the team at the deadline, and with one call up left for the team to use, call up Carter Ashton over Nazem Kadri who was blazing in the AHL having 11 points in his last 6 games only to see Carter Ashton in 10 games provide no points averaging 14 minutes a game on the first line with a -10. Nazem gets called up for two games with the emergency recall in which he scores a goal and provides the shootout winner. Now asked to get stronger and leaner this summer, Kadri decides to take matters into his own hands by working with Gary Roberts who does charge his players roughly $15,000 for a summer workout program I know because one of my buddies is apart of bio steel, only to be told he has among the highest body fats on the Toronto Marlies which is happens to be one of the fittest and fastest teams in the AHL, starts of slow, gets benched, finds his game and takes the league into his hands and is at a point per game pace doing everything he has been told and removing the deficiencies in his game for example the neutral zone turnovers, inconsistent defensive play, and bonehead penalties, only to be possible trade bait for a 34 year old declining goalie? If he does get traded, I hope he terrorizes the Leafs every couple of months the Canucks play the Leafs, because this is the same sad story with Boyes, Rask, Neidermayer, the list goes on. This kid has everything you can want in a prospect, the hands, the shot, the vision, playmaking ability, was a leader in Kitchener was a leader in London is a young leader with the Marlies, is always among the best players on the ice wherever he goes, is an offensive spark plug, dynamite on the powerplay and always made the Leafs powerplay better when he was called up, has the speed, seriously what more does the fanbase and brass want from a guy? He is young, he'll be inconsistent, he'll occasionally do take out, he'll have the odd beer, but who are we to scrutinize every little thing this kid does when all he does is follow everything asked of him to do.
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