Post-Game Talk: Van Ryn's system and Jones hand another loss

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Coaching is definitely a major issue. The team never comes ready to play, as you saw tonight going down 3-0 in the first. It's on the coach to get the guys ready to play each night. Slow starts have always been a problem under Keefe, especially at home.
Tbh I kinda feel like that's on the players like what is the coach supposed to do in that situation, clearly they have the talent so the coach can't do much in that situation IMO. Trading and replacing some of your bottom six and adding to your D core and wait for Woll to comeback or get a stopgap goalie for cheap then it would be beneficial IMO, although every coach has a shelf life so he's probably going to get fired, although I'd say the main cause for this slide is the Goaltending, defense, and depth.
 
We may need to step up from having a smoke to sniffing some glue.
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This team is a f***ing embarrassment. Rest of Canada is dunking on us this season too, even the f***ing Sens have beaten us twice. This season is a bust, just sell assets and focus on next year. Maybe even keep Keefe until end of season so you can get the highest pick possible
 
Tbh I kinda feel like that's on the players like what is the coach supposed to do in that situation, clearly they have the talent so the coach can't do much in that situation IMO. Trading and replacing some of your bottom six and adding to your D core and wait for Woll to comeback or get a stopgap goalie for cheap then it would be beneficial IMO, although every coach has a shelf life so he's probably going to get fired, although I'd say the main cause for this slide is the Goaltending, defense, and depth.
can you go post on your own board, like in what world is it a good idea to come into another teams board after a loss?, imagine if a Leafs poster entered you board and posted would be an instant infraction
 
It would help if the Leafs had more than 1 NHL D man on the roster and a competent goalie.
 
Too many guys who can’t play defence on this squad. Gio cooked, Brodie cooked and/or has had terrible off ice stuff in his life likely affecting him. Bertuzzi is clueless, Domi’s line is an automatic goal against if they get hemmed in. Knies is a rookie and playing way more games than he’s used to so at least he’s got that excuse, Sheldon has no good one for continuing to play him when Robertson is sitting in the press box collecting dust and, I can’t stress this enough, needs to f***ing play. John’s lost a step and Nylander is what he is defensively. Kampf is only as good as his wingers and he’s flanked by two barely NHL calibre guys.
 
I don’t think Keefe is the coach next week. I don’t think that Calgary win was enough to save his job

Hard to say. I think a win tomorrow keeps him alive as this would end up a .500 trip. If the Jets push our poop in, then him being gone again is back on the table.

A new coach might give us all a better feeling, but I'm not convinced enough of our problems can be solely attributed to coaching where a change will make a big difference.
 
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This team is a f***ing embarrassment. Rest of Canada is dunking on us this season too, even the f***ing Sens have beaten us twice. This season is a bust, just sell assets and focus on next year. Maybe even keep Keefe until end of season so you can get the highest pick possible
Were closer to the Blues winning the Cup than we are to selling. Come on man.

Just need to get that stretch of goaltending that allows the game to end in a win.

4 goals and opponent had less than 25 shots and we lost? Story of the season
 
No, he needs to get apply for his permanent residency on Robidas Island.
I'm thinking that hit a few years ago by Perry might be manifesting some new symptoms requiring an early retirement. We can't be too careful with head injuries.
 
I don't like him and yeah he's cooked
The guy is so robotic and uninspiring. Feels like the window is closed until he’s off the books. I don’t want him back even at vet min. He can’t keep up and in a bottom 6 role these days you gotta be able to skate and forecheck.
 
Coaching is definitely a major issue. The team never comes ready to play, as you saw tonight going down 3-0 in the first. It's on the coach to get the guys ready to play each night. Slow starts have always been a problem under Keefe, especially at home.
Been like this since Babcock days. What’s the common denominator? There’s your answer. I know people won’t like it but it’s the truth.
 
can you go post on your own board, like in what world is it a good idea to come into another teams board after a loss?, imagine if a Leafs poster entered you board and posted would be an instant infraction
I'm not even being rude, I'm just talking about ways to improve the team, also the Leafs are my 2nd favourite team so idk why you are being so defensive.
 
Tbh I kinda feel like that's on the players like what is the coach supposed to do in that situation, clearly they have the talent so the coach can't do much in that situation IMO. Trading and replacing some of your bottom six and adding to your D core and wait for Woll to comeback or get a stopgap goalie for cheap then it would be beneficial IMO, although every coach has a shelf life so he's probably going to get fired, although I'd say the main cause for this slide is the Goaltending, defense, and depth.
Respectfully, as an outside fan, you're not going to have as much perspective as us. Don't get me wrong, the roster is extremely top heavy and poorly constructed, but that's just one issue. Another is the country club culture of the core players (Matthews, Marner, Nylander) and the coaching is another, which is tied into the country club atmosphere. The number of insanely embarrassing losses this team has with Keefe at the helm is enough to encompass an entire franchise worth for every other NHL team:

- JT's return to Long Island
- Zamboni driver game
- Losing twice to the COVID Canucks (I'm sure you remember those, lol)
- Blowing a 5-1 lead to Ottawa at home
- Losing to the 7-1 to the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins

I could go on and on, but you get my point.
 
Hard to say. I think a win tomorrow keeps him alive as this would end up a .500 trip. If the Jets push our poop in, then him being gone again is back on the table.

A new coach might give us all a better feeling, but I'm not convinced enough of our problems can be solely attributed to coaching where a change will make a big difference.

That's fine, at least it's worth a shot. Get a new coach already
Enough is enough

A new coach may not push the Isles to the playoffs, but at least they did something about it
It didnt' look like a new coach would do anything for Oilers, but they have what 12 wins in a row?
 
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