Confirmed with Link: [VAN/CHI] Ilya Mikheyev(15% Retained), Sam Lafferty(Rights), 2027 2nd round pick for 2027 4th round pick

[Jyrki]

I would've downgraded the pick, maybe even given it up, to get no retention. But still it's a great trade, shed about $4M for virtually nothing.

 

[ziploc]

Only question left: is #65 retired, or just Ring of Honour?

 

[DimitriL07]

Only question left: is #65 retired, or just Ring of Honour?

Statue

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Retention and the 2nd not being until 2027 balance out a bit.

All in all, tidy work to give us an additional $4M in cap space while still having our top picks for next year and the year after.

Save $4 million the next two years to only move back 2 rounds. Maybe it’s only me but I don’t value picks 3 years out very highly. Just as a comparison I value our 2024 third round more than our 2027 2nd. This deal looks better now, compared to what it was originally reported as.

 

[ziploc]

Statue

Replacing Roger Nielson or Terry Fox?

 

[arttk]

Only question left: is #65 retired, or just Ring of Honour?

Print his face on our money

 

[DimitriL07]

Replacing Roger Nielson or Terry Fox?

No need to replace anyone, he can stand along side

 

[ziploc]

No need to replace anyone, he can stand along side

Or he can go where Gassy Jack used to be.

 

[iFan]

well this will make things interesting

 

[Baby Pettersson]

712k retention is a big deal in addition of the OEL buyout. That's 5.48M in dead cap in 2025-26.

Something to consider for perspective. Almost every single team in the league has some form of dead cap. LTIR, bad contracts, retention, bonus carry over. Everyone has it.

The key is to limit it. And as of right now Canucks don't have a single bad contact of a player that skates on the team.

Edmonton has 4 times the "dead cap" then we do and they just went to game 7 of the cup final.

We will be fine!

 

[wonton15]

Can agree with Drance on this one. It’s a unique one but when you zoom out it’s a damn good deal. Got rid of $4M on the books for two years in exchange for moving down two rounds in a draft years away. Big brain.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Can agree with Drance on this one. It’s a unique one but when you zoom out it’s a damn good deal. Got rid of $4M on the books for two years in exchange for moving down two rounds in a draft years away. Big brain.

Wierd deal thats structured in a way that both teams benefit.

Win win!

 

[ziploc]

Can agree with Drance on this one. It’s a unique one but when you zoom out it’s a damn good deal. Got rid of $4M on the books for two years in exchange for moving down two rounds in a draft years away. Big brain.

I have a hard time imagining Benning trying to accomplish something even close to this on his Speak & Spell.

 

[The Stig]

I'm a happy boy tonight

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I have a hard time imagining Benning trying to accomplish something even close to this on his Speak & Spell.

I don’t think Benning could spell the words in that tweet, never mind conceiving of them to make that trade.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

To me the the retention brings the trade grade down from a 100% to a 90-95%. Yeah no retention would be nice, but getting 4m cap space for the next 2 years is still a major win.

 

[Peen]

In a perfect world, you have your prospects hit late in this season or in the 2025 training camp.

Allows you to comfortably move off a guy like Garland next draft and recoup a decent pick.

 

[Jovofan]

I'm totally fine with a retention. If this trade didn't happen and we were forced to buy Mik out the penalty this year would've been higher than the 15% plus it would've been horrid next year. Now we're only on the hook for a two year penalty instead of a four year one at far less money than the buyout would've cost us. We gained an extra $4m this year and an extra $2m next year. I'll take that all day long.

 

[ziploc]

I'm totally fine with a retention. If this trade didn't happen and we were forced to buy Mik out the penalty this year would've been higher than the 15% plus it would've been horrid next year. Now we're only on the hook for a two year penalty instead of a four year one at far less money than the buyout would've cost us. We gained an extra $4m this year and an extra $2m next year. I'll take that all day long.

Yeah, but don't forget we lost the rights to Lafferty.

 

[Jovofan]

Yeah, but don't forget we lost the rights to Lafferty.

Damn, you're right! Can we get Benning back?

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Retaining 720k isn't the worst outcome.

We can still sign Kasperi Kapanen to a 4 year 16 mil contract to replace Mikheyev.

 

[wonton15]

Petey’s face when he ends up with Zucker and Duhaime on his wings…

 

[Vector]

Updated the spreadsheet. Canucks now have 21.74m (LTIR) in capspace with only Silovs as an RFA.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

I have seen some people not like the deal as much because of the retention. But getting the 2nd changed from a 2025 to 2027 is worth more than 712k. It allows a lot more flexibility in a trade, especially at the deadline, a 2025 pick is gonna hold more value than 2027 pick. Not having a 2025 2nd could have meant they could have potentially lost out on a player or they would have had to include there first instead. For example the Canucks lost out on Tanev because they didn't have 2024 2nd and the Stars did.

 

[Peen]

Updated the spreadsheet. Canucks now have 21.74m (LTIR) in capspace with only Silovs as an RFA.

Wonder if they try and sort out Silovs within the next 72h or so that the offersheet threat goes away