Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th

[Three On Zero]

Oiler fans coping hard in this thread lol

The little brother syndrome has been strong with them all season

 

[Bond]

Can he though? Maybe if he rebounds later this year or next season. But at this point he was a $5.5M healthy scratch/often liability.

Flames will feed him a tonne of ice time and have cap space. If they can squeeze out another asset it is just gravy. I was expecting a 1st and B prospect

The value of Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, and the Canucks 2024 1st today is probably similar to the value of the NYI 2023 1st alone, add Beauvillier (negative value) and Raty (roughly a 2nd) I think its about on par

Oh yeah. That 1st was way higher.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Chances are probably slim to none.

It's good to have hope again it's been awhile.

 

[ponder]

Quality trade for both sides IMO. Vancouver gets significantly better now, Calgary gets some quite nice pieces for the future. Makes sense for both teams given where they’re at, and I think about equal from a pure value POV too (maybe Calgary got a bit better value, but only a bit).

 

[TheNumber4]

Lol if he was first line play driver we wouldn't even be having this conversation. He was brought in to be our 2nd line C, a faceoff guy and a PK presence. The Canucks have their play drivers.

You're not going to get the angst out of most Canucks fans that you're looking for.

Canucks fans will plan the parade around this. I have no doubt about it, and I'm not here to stop it.

Just talking about the trade and throwing in my 2 cents regarding the players involved, like I do with any trade.

 

[Bond]

The little brother syndrome has been strong with them all season

I hope the Oilers still somehow miss the playoffs but getting knocked out by the Canucks would be extra funny

 

[Peter Griffin]

Flames will feed him a tonne of ice time and have cap space. If they can squeeze out another asset it is just gravy. I was expecting a 1st and B prospect

Yes, he’s a potential rebound candidate similar to how Beauvillier was last season. But ultimately as far as the Canucks are concerned, he was a multi-year cap dump.

 

[Three On Zero]

I hope the Oilers still somehow miss the playoffs but getting knocked out by the Canucks would be extra funny

One thing you can count on, Oilers always get knocked out in a funny fashion

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

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If Brzustewicz hits we lose this trade and we will never EVER hear the end of it.

This trade sucks. Linholm sucks

Brzustewicz wasn't going to hit in Vancouver. He was pretty much drafted to be traded at some point since he would always be blocked from hitting his potential in Vancouver. The only question is if the Canucks should've waited to see if his value would increase after some marinating in the AHL. Flip side is that he struggles in the transition to pro hockey and you're stuck with a diminished asset.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Brustewicz is IMO a high end prospect.

Agreed. This is a great return. I was satisfied with just Brzustewics and their 1st. This is a lot better

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Not the target I was hoping for and not the price I would want to pay for a rental.
Hopefully Lindholm can rediscover his game for the playoffs and if he can, who knows? Maybe I won't feel so meh about this trade.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Flames have made some remarkably good trades with their UFAs the past few years, at least on paper. I know Huberdeau flopped, but it was a hell of a trade in the moment. Same thing appears to be the case here, they returned more than would reasonably have been expected.

 

[The don godfather]

Kuz popped 39 goals last year and in his prime 27 . Elias is regressing plus all those nice picks and prospects coming. Unreal for flames. They redeemed themselves from the huberdeau fiasco but that wasn't Conroy fault that was dufas trievling.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The value of Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, and the Canucks 2024 1st today is probably similar to the value of the NYI 2023 1st alone, add Beauvillier (negative value) and Raty (roughly a 2nd) I think its about on par

I don't really agree with this. I think the difference in the Canucks 1st (late 1st) and the Islanders 1st (mid 1st) is larger than the difference between the other pieces. I don't think Kuzmenko had any value right now and I'd personally take Raty over Brzustewicz.

This seems less than the Horvat return, not massively so but I think it is less.

 

[The don godfather]

It's good to have hope again it's been awhile.

Winning that cup is like playing lotto 6 49. I know it isnt that statistically but sure feels like it.

 

[Coffee]

True. If at any point I wanted his overrated ass in Edmonton.

In your guys defence, you never had the assets to get him

 

[biturbo19]

Fair trade all things considered. Kuzmenko is having an off year, a change of scenery could reignite his scoring and net the flames another late 1st or 2nd+

I could honestly see Kuzmenko bouncing back, finding some real chemistry with Huberdeau. Seems like a fit between a pure perimeter passer and a natural finisher around the net. Or not, since that chemistry seems pretty fickle and elusive for both of them. But on paper at least, i could see it working.

But even if he doesn't, it's not like they're stuck with a super crippling long-term deal with Kuzmenko. They either get a pick for him, make him part of a retool, or just walk away after next year and wash their hands of him. They've got time and opportunity to let it play out and evaluate...and multiple options and potential outs if it goes Huberdeau shaped.

 

[TheNumber4]

How's this Hunter Bldkfls;akdf kid?

 

[Phrasing]

lol okay, typical forget all the context and just assume. All I said is this trade seems potentially better than Horvat haul. Raty is a 21 yo who can’t even perform in the AHL and Kuz has more value than a bust in Beau. Not sure why that makes me a homer.

What? The quotes have nothing to do with Horvat. I think you need to reread the chain of quotes. You said Calgary is going to get a haul for Kuz after scoring with Huby… put down the pint.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Kuzmenko had Calgary on his NTC so I can't help but wonder did he waive to go to Calgary?

Or did he waive to go to Calgary with the understanding that he would be traded by the deadline or at least before next season?

 

[Coffee]

Winning that cup is like playing lotto 6 49. I know it isnt that statistically but sure feels like it.

Actually statistically speaking , that’s spot on

 

[Tempo]

Another trade where both sides are happy.

 

[The don godfather]

Kuz alone is a great haul.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

How's this Hunter Bldkfls;akdf kid?

Holy f*** lmao

 

[TheNumber4]

Kuzmenko had Calgary on his NTC so I can't help but wonder did he waive to go to Calgary?

Or did he waive to go to Calgary with the understanding that he would be traded by the deadline or at least before next season.

He waived for Calgary. Likely cause he can rack up points for a pay day without having to worry about silly little things like backchecking.