Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th

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Playing with Pettersson and Boeser will rejuvenate him though, won’t it?
Yeah, could be.

He just didnt seem like a libe carrier to me. He's great at finding holes and cashing in with good teammates.
But he never took off as THE guy when it was given to him. He had Huberdeau and Mangiapane to work with.
 
He was.

The Canucks are a much, much better team today.

The Canuck fans can now be honest and bash Kuzmenko now that he’s gone.

Lindholm is an excellent player. Not sure how they fit him and Petterson under the Cap next year though. Maybe it doesn’t matter because the Canucks will be even better than they’ve been this year. Will be tough to bet against .

Kuzmenko's got alot of talent. No reason to bash him. He's having a difficult year but he's still flashed what made him great last season.

Canucks play a connected forechecking game & he couldn't grasp that to the level Tocchet needed, but circles down he's a great offensive player. He can still be a good complementary scorer.
 
Love the trade for the Flames, Conroy did great on this trade. Curious what the conditions are on the 4th round pick, must be playoff success. I want to see what kind of chemistry Kuzmenko and Hube can develop.
I wanna see Kuzmenko light it up for a month and then get flipped!
 
It's certainly not a bad deal for Calgary. There is probably a bit of overreaction from fans with takes on the extreme edge of either side.

- Kuzmenko isn't talentless. He will probably score some goals for Calgary. But the idea that he's just having a down year is extremely flawed. He rode an absolutely insane shooting % and PDO on a very bad team last year to some gaudy counting stats. He's not suddenly going to be flip-able for a 1st even if he does get hot for the Flames over the next month. He can be a contributer but is he going to move any needle or asset package in the long-run?

- Hunter is not a "throw-in". He and the 1st are the main attractions here. His OHL stats are great. He's certainly increased his stock from 3rd round value last year. He's also heavily flawed when it comes to projecting a "high-end" NHL player down the road.

- The 1st...to me, even if #30 or #31 - that's still the main piece. What Calgary does with it will matter but it was important to get that.

- Lindholm is probably not ever going to be 40-goal Lindholm again but there is track record here, there is elite level defensive play here, there is positional premium here...so to take an extremely lucky Kuz year (I will eat my hat is his 22-23 season isn't a ridiculous outlier in his entire career) and then say Lindholm is a 9 goal center is absurd. He offers the Canucks an elite 2C who let's them keep their mega-line of EP and JTM together while stiching together a bunch of all-weather, all-zone 2nd line possibilities.
 
I think most Canuck fans are going to miss Kuz and his personality and smile.

Honestly hope he turns it around and Calgary and does well. Hes such a likeable guy
Being a likeable guy is not the same as a valuable NHL player.

See: Jack Campbell.
 
Love the trade for the Flames, Conroy did great on this trade. Curious what the conditions are on the 4th round pick, must be playoff success. I want to see what kind of chemistry Kuzmenko and Hube can develop.
Kuzy can be a wizard offensively, but his defensive game is pretty bad
 
Islanders 1st = Vancouver 1st + Brzustewicz
Raty + Beauviller = Kuzmenko

So just a 4th and Jurmo on top. It's not that much more than what Vancouver got for Horvat.
Baked into the price for Horvat was the idea that they were going to have to extend him to much more than his (at the time) current contract. Lindholm either won't get as significant a raise, or more likely represents much needed cap savings for next year
 
Would not be surprised if the Devils make a pitch for him + Markstrom and as a Devils fan who doesn't think they'll make it I would prefer to stay away from that as well lol

It would be a good move for them long term - probably win at least two or three rounds over the next couple years adding those two to their core.
 
This is a solid trade for Calgary.

Lindholm is struggling but they still parlayed him into a 1st, a top prospect, and a bounceback candidate.

Canucks shore up their main weakness and are a contender.

Calgary fans: does Lindholm matchup against Mcdavid/Draisaitl/MacKinnon well?
 
Is it?

Kuzmenko > Beauvillier
VAN 1st << NYI 1st
Brzustewicz = Raty

You could argue Brz > Raty but Raty had already played NHL games.

Kuz is a better player than Beauvillier for sure (that could be a great get for CGY).

But the 1st Van got was way more valuable, it was middle of the 1st & had potential to be a lottery pick the following year.
Raty is a bust lol. And kuzmenko will get them a decent haul, beau is a bust as well
 
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