Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th

[Szechwan]

He was the guy I really wanted to get from Vancouver. Their fans undervalue him.

He's followed pretty closely on our board, and plenty of people have him in our top 5 prospects. He just isn't likely to contribute any time soon, and so we'd much rather keep the guys that can step in and fill out our depth sooner than later (Lekkerimaki, Willander, Podkolzin, Hog).

He's very skilled, but he also only cost us a 3rd like 6 months ago so value-wise it seems solid. If the Flames are patient with him it'll pay off for them imo.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

If Conroy just got this for Lindholm, who’s having a down year, I would much prefer to have whatever he can get for Hanifin rather than Hanifin himself.

Would not be surprised if the Devils make a pitch for him + Markstrom and as a Devils fan who doesn't think they'll make it I would prefer to stay away from that as well lol

 

[bh53]

You could make a pretty decent argument this haul is better than what Horvat got

I don't think you can. The first we got for Horvat is worth a lot more than the first we gave up. Islanders were out of a playoff spot and we're first in the league. A pick that was looking to be top 15 vs 27+ is a huge difference in value. Raty + Beau is close to Kuzmenko + Bru and the 4th + Jurmo don't make up the difference in the first.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Lindholm will resign and Canucks will prioritize a RHC over a depth Dman like Zadorov and Kuzmenko’s $5.5 million.

Vancouver didn’t have to give up Hoglander, Lekkerimaki, Willander, Raty, Podkolzin and that is extremely impressive.

Great trade for both teams

 

[nucks88]

5 assets for a soon to be UFA seems dumb but I guess we’ll see.

You have to think that the Canucks have spoken to him about signing….

 

[Hodge]

Man, the Canucks are getting an extra free month (ahead of the deadline) of the player too...

This is so bad for Calgary. How do you not wait until closer to the actual deadline if this is the best offer you're getting? Conroy must genuinely believe Kuzmenko is an asset and not a liability which is scary.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Does Kuz get moved again?

Probably not until summer. I'd bet their hope is he and Huberdeau can pair up and mutually benefit

 

[LemonSauceD]

Im joking. Breath and read what I was replying to.

Been lots of bad takes in this thread. My bad.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Not sure I agree. The first round pick was much better in a much deeper draft. Kuzmenko is a higher cap hit to Beau. Brz and the 4th and Raty are the difference in value here. Jurmo is a nothing player.

If Calgary is smart, they'll make good of getting Kuzmenko at his lowest value and trade him again after playing in their top 6. They can also eat his cap hit again and make it at 50% which every team would be all over.

 

[DimitriL07]

This is fair for both, Flames get Bruz who they can be very patient with. The late 1st was always going. Kuz was not working here and we free up 5.5 next season. Jurmo just sucks

 

[Bandit]

You act like this doesnt happen every single trade deadline. He was the top rental out there

If everyone stuck a screwdriver in a light socket would that make it less dumb? Guy has 32 points, not 60.

Like I said, we’ll see.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Been lots of bad takes in this thread. My bad.

Given where both teams are, this is a good trade for both, imo.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

i love this trade! canucks may have best top 9 in west with lindholm they have a goalie who can steal a series. they may well be best team in west in the end. and calgary got full value here. they weren't resinging him and they got in addition to the obligatory 1st and raondo prospect, a high risk prospect with nice upside and reclamation project in kuzmenko they can potentially rehabilitate value on and flip for more assets. everybody wins! until canucks get knocked out by a wild card team and the ohl legend prospect flops. either way, so much fun for the rest of us! i love this trade!!!

 

[DJJones]

I'd retain on Kuzmenko and flip him. No interest in re-signing him.

 

[Thechozen1]

Screw the remainder of the season! Just give the Canucks the President’s Trophy, Clarence Campbell Bowl, Stanley Cup and one of their players the Conn Smythe.

Nobody’s beating them. There’s nothing left to see here!!!!!!

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Good luck Canucks, and I both mean that and don't mean that at the same time.

I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

 

[canadianmagpie]

Well, if you look at the deal individually sure

But we got Hronek from that 1st round pick so...no complain here

The Islanders were also not a lock to make the playoffs as well so the 1st was around the 12-18 range when it was moved, that's why it was top 10 protected. That first would be the 1st from Vancouver which is currently anywhere from 28-32 would require a lot more to move up to where the Islander pick was. Would be at least a 3rd rounder and likely a late second. Seeing how Brzustewicz was a 3rd rounder who has improved his stock. It probably means Islander 1st = Brzustewicz + Vancouver 1st.

Granted, I'm not thrilled with parting with both, but I can sort of understand it better that way.

 

[Muffin]

It's very expensive for Vancouver if it's a pure rental. I think it's fair if they manage to re-sign Lindholm.

 

[admiralcadillac]

People calling this a "haul" for CGY clearly don't follow the Canucks or their system. The only value CGY got here was the 1st. Which is projecting to be a very late 27-32 range pick. The rest are throw ins. This was the very definition of quantity over quality for CGY. But the optics they will spin from a PR stand point for people who don't know anything about the players. I think CGY could have done better and almost certainly would have if they'd waited.

Lol ok

 

[Pablo El Perro]

I'd retain on Kuzmenko and flip him. No interest in re-signing him.

I'd wait to see how he gels before committing to anything.

 

[vcanuck]

Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Hoglander - Lindholm - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Aman - Suter - Lafferty

that's crazy depth thicc down the middle.

 

[Bandit]

You have to think that the Canucks have spoken to him about signing….

Rob Blake is my GM, you’ll have to forgive me for assuming the worst.

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

That’s a bunch for Lindholm as a rental. People here were saying a rental Guentzel wouldn’t even get this much.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Hunter Brzustewicz is leading the entire CHL in points for defensemen.

He’s a solid prospect not just some throw in as some posters have suggested.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

You could make a pretty decent argument this haul is better than what Horvat got

Um, it's by far better

Is it?

Kuzmenko > Beauvillier
VAN 1st << NYI 1st
Brzustewicz = Raty

You could argue Brz > Raty but Raty had already played NHL games.

Kuz is a better player than Beauvillier for sure (that could be a great get for CGY).

But the 1st Van got was way more valuable, it was middle of the 1st & had potential to be a lottery pick the following year.