KevinRedkey
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Value of: Value of 2023 1st overall pick?
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oceanchild
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Why do you say that, I would think some cities would offer significantly more sponsorship opportunities than others. I would think he would make a fortune as a BC boy in Vancouver, or as a star in Toronto, I think he gets next to nothing in Phoenix as examples.
Seachd
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He makes that fortune wherever he goes.
But he doesn’t get to pick where that is, and if he tries, he delays any real money coming to him.
There’s no way he doesn’t play exactly where he’s drafted.
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Entire 2023 draft
Blackwood (RFA)
Bratt (RFA)
Nemec
Holtz
Mukhamadullin
balk at either Hughes, or Hischier being included. Bratt's the best piece in that package most likely but is about to get paid.
Blackwood (RFA)
Bratt (RFA)
Nemec
Holtz
Mukhamadullin
balk at either Hughes, or Hischier being included. Bratt's the best piece in that package most likely but is about to get paid.
oceanchild
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I don’t know the kid and have no way to know, but the idea that losing a season in an entry level contract would result in a large financial loss than being in an ideal market is wrong. I could see a guy like that getting 10 mill per year in endorsements if he landed in Vancouver or Toronto. Sure, the kid will do fine, but we are talking about potentially doubling his career earnings.
Seachd
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If he’s good enough, he’s getting those endorsements anyway. It won’t matter if he’s in Chicago or Anaheim or Arizona - the local endorsements are likely relatively minor.
He’d need to miss what… 3? ELC seasons before becoming a free agent? That seems a lot bigger than any difference in endorsements that might exist because of the city. Not to mention he has no chance at the Cup for those years.
It just doesn’t make sense.
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The Lindros trade
You can't gut an entire franchise's future for one asset.There is a limit to what any singluar asset can return.
You can't gut an entire franchise's future for one asset.There is a limit to what any singluar asset can return.
The Rangers are already a pretty good team, you add Bedard and there is a strong possibility they become better, point being those 2023 1st round picks are already going to be in the 24 - 32 range. With Bedard the 2024 will also be late in the 1st round, not nearly as valuable as top 10 picks.
Not even close.
Anyone who gets it is not trading it that's obvious. You trade Bedard and watch him score 1,500 points. That's how GM's find themselves the subject of jokes long after they are gone. Not even Mike Milbury is that dense. (see what I mean).
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GirardSpinorama
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Lol literally every player you listed is a much lesser version of the comparable.
top 10 picks will be worth a lot this draft, not that they are not most drafts.
Hart >>> than where Hextal was at when that deal went down
oceanchild
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No one is going to let that happen, the NHL would force the team. It would be horrible media relations for them not to. If you think players in Phoenix get even close to the endorsements, your out to lunch.
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Seachd
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Force the team to what?
If you think a young superstar from Vancouver playing for Arizona wouldn’t get national Canadian endorsements, I don’t know what to tell you.
oceanchild
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Show me one that has, most sponsorships are local in the NHL and although the biggest stars get national, there is still much to be earned in local revenue by business wanting ties to the team. Look up the offers to Stamkos when he was a free agent and people had hoped he would move to the leafs. How many sponsorships does stamkos have now that were available then. This isn’t rocket science, are you really that naive and out of touch with how business works?
If scouting services are to be believed, Bedard is up there with McDavid, Ovechnkin and Croby as a generational talent.
If that's true then as they say in the Mastercard ad: 'his value is priceless."
If that's true then as they say in the Mastercard ad: 'his value is priceless."
VaporTrail
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That pick is untouchable. No owner would let their GM trade that pick unless Bedard refuses to sign which there is zero indication he will do.
The off ice value of a generational player is much much too high. I’m not saying that Bedard is generational but there is a chance he could be and you just don’t trade those players unless they insist on it. Players like he potentially could be get new arenas built with their off ice value to a franchise.
The off ice value of a generational player is much much too high. I’m not saying that Bedard is generational but there is a chance he could be and you just don’t trade those players unless they insist on it. Players like he potentially could be get new arenas built with their off ice value to a franchise.
That rule doesn’t apply to 1st overall picks before the rule came into place. So Dallin doesn’t count.
He will sign wherever he is drafted so I’m not refuting you point but just for the sake of clarity.
Any 18yo player drafted out of the Canadian Jr. system has 2 years to sign an elc and then must re-enter the draft and has 2 years to sign again before becoming a UFA. So he would have to wait 4 years to become a UFA but only under control of the original drafting team for 2 of those years.
But in theory he could force a trade to any team he wants in a year or 2 because the original drafting team would trade him somewhere he would sign rather than lose his rights for nothing but the compensation pick the league gives for unsigned 1st rounders
