Raptors Discussion: v94 | Raptors land 4th pick in NBA draft lottery. Draft set for July 29

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Yeah from what I saw/read of Suggs it sounds like he's a more athletic version of Lowry. High basketball IQ with good playmaking abilities. They said his 3 point percentages weren't great but his jumpshot is fluid so they think he has potential as a shooter as well.
his release point is a little low from what i understand, but he does everything else so well and hes crazy athletic. i read somewhere hes like lowry but if lowry was given the cptn america serum lol. anyone of these 3 players is honestly a game changer for us.
 
No. 2nds are next to worthless in terms of trade value. They're the kinds of things you get tossed into deals that are otherwise close to even or when you're flipping a guy just to get him off your roster.

There's rumors that Orlando wants to move up into the top 4 from the 5th spot and that doing so would likely cost them that 5th pick and the 8th pick which they got in a trade with Chicago.

To be honest, if the Magic offered 5 & 8 to the Raptors for 4th, I'd consider it. I'm not necessarily advocating taking it, but a combo of, say, Scottie Barnes and one of Sengun, Wagner, Mitchell, Giddey or Jalen Johnson might be enough of an alternative to give you pause while you ponder.



I think Siakam is much more valuable than Wiggins so I wouldn't want to do that. Wiggins remains a somewhat one-dimensional volume scorer seemingly without the head or heart to maximize the value out of his defensive tool set. Siakam is also a volume scorer (exasperated by the fact that he's the #1 scorer for the Raptors while Wiggins is at best 3rd) but when he's locked in he's also a terrific defender 2 through 5.

Of secondary consideration is that most of the prospects in the 6-12 range on a lot of boards are also mid-sized perimeter wing guys so you're acquiring wiggins and then he coupled with Anunoby/Trent/whoever potentially chokes away the path to a rotation spot for that pick.

Reports I've seen is Wiggins was a top 5 defender at the SF position. Kerr challenged him this year to be a top defensive guy couple with a scorer. See website below. He accepted the challenge and was really improved this year. He and OG guarding wings would be very good plus Fred a top D guy at the SG. Suggs if chosen at 4 would be a top D guy at PG.

You only then need a rim protector which you could use with the 7th or worse case getting the 14th pick from GS. I think Wiggins would be a better fit as Siakim has trouble being the guy.

NBA Real Plus-Minus - National Basketball Association - ESPN

if that is true and OG
 
All I'll say is while Cade would have been amazing...moving into a top 4 pick is a huge win for us regardless of which one of the 4 we get.

Low key kinda happy to see Pistons fans get a win too.
 
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The lottery results have made this past season worthwhile.

We should be able to draft an impact player at the #4 slot.
 
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If I Bobby Webster, I would be looking at trading Siakam and a small plus to get either Houston's 2nd overall of Cleveland's 3rd overall. Both are open to trading. Obviously it could 3 way trades but the value is there.

Siakam might not be the dominant 1st option we thought, but he was an all nba player in 2020. He still has huge trade value. If you can somehow get either pick coming back the future could be super bright.

Draft Mobley and Green.

PG- F.Van Vleet/M.Flynn
SG- J.Green/G.Trent
SF- OG/Y.Watanabe
PF- C.Boucher/F.Gillespie
C- E.Mobley/K.Birch

The defense could be nasty with Mobley, Boucher and OG and Green could have potential as a plus defender in the right situation
 
So apparently the Athletic twitter account tweeted that the pistons like Green a lot. Either way i think Cade and Green go top 2. I previously thought mobley would fall to us but with the logjam the cavs have with garland and sexton I think they'd rather take mobley than suggs. Too bad as I think mobley is legit and so is green.
I am not so sure about that. I think there will be a lots of movement at the top of the draft. Everyone has an issue with their pick placement.

There are a lot of bad fits. Mobley should be #2 but with Houston having Wood and Cleveland paying a 1st for Jarrett Allen, it would seem odd for them to draft him.

Cleveland wont go either Jalen unless they trade Sexton or Garland. It would be way too many guards.

Houston seems like a good play for either Jalen.

I see us possibly trading up with Houston, we grab Mobley and they whatever Jalen is left plus extras. I have a crazy feeling we end up with Mobley.
 
I am not so sure about that. I think there will be a lots of movement at the top of the draft. Everyone has an issue with their pick placement.

There are a lot of bad fits. Mobley should be #2 but with Houston having Wood and Cleveland paying a 1st for Jarrett Allen, it would seem odd for them to draft him.

Cleveland wont go either Jalen unless they trade Sexton or Garland. It would be way too many guards.

Houston seems like a good play for either Jalen.

I see us possibly trading up with Houston, we grab Mobley and they whatever Jalen is left plus extras. I have a crazy feeling we end up with Mobley.
I can see it go any which way after cade. Will be interesting to see who we get.
 
No. KAT for the 4th plus filler, SGA for the 4th plus filler, Beal for the 4th plus filler.

Filler being Baynes, Hood to salary match.

SGA I can understand. Young guy, Canadian. Still improving. KAT also has his strengths.

But Beal is older, a chucker and terrible defensively.
 
Make the pick. Don’t trade for an older guy. Many will likely disagree, but this team is not that close.

I’d even add to trade up for Mobley. They need a big more than another PG.
 
No. Seeing Cleveland probably takes Green because they already have Garland and Sexton I'd rather just keep Suggs (assuming no surprises) and Spicy. Suggs could easily turn into a franchise point guard that lets us sign and trade Lowry. KAT is awesome but no way should the Raps be willing to part with #4 in this draft to upgrade to him from Spicy.


 
Read an article on nba about how they could trade it...
ugh I hope they don't trade this pick.
 
Read an article on nba about how they could trade it...
ugh I hope they don't trade this pick.
I don't see them trading it. Any of the big 4 can be a cornerstone piece for us and help us get back in contention next season.
 
I would be ok trading the pick if it meant getting a player that has only been in the league for 3-4 years max, is proven, and will be with the Raptors organization for the long term.

No way do I trade it away for anyone that is an aging vet or anyone in his early 30's.
 
I really enjoy having faith in competent management that no matter what they do with the pick, there's a huge chance they'll make good on it.
 
Jalen Green or Jalen Suggs will in all likelihood be a Raptor. What great lottery luck for the franchise. Should really help turn things around. We have good young pieces in place as is. Younger team should make it even easier for the new #4 OA pick to blend in right away
 
I wonder if we should keep this pick or trade it. I think Nick Nurse is a great coach for rookies so good chance we'll keep it.
 
I dont see how we could turn down this once in a decade chance to grab a high upside prospect like we have at #4 this year, I dont know if I would even do the hypothetical #4 for #5 and #8 rumour because the talent drop off is just too much. Take whoever falls and plug them into our development system with the team structure the other top 4 teams currently lack and see what we can do!
 
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The raptors won their championship I am ready for the rebuild. No need for another treadmill decade.
 
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