Raptors Discussion: v94 | Raptors land 4th pick in NBA draft lottery. Draft set for July 29

[djdev]

I would think about this if he is available.

adding lillard and subtracting lowry doesnt make this team much better imo, hes a better scoring option but lowry does alot of things better than dame. dame is also 30 so you realistically have a 4ish year window with him and siakam to contend, i think you would need to pair lillard with another star for us to be any type of threat imo. i prefer to do a retool that takes a few years and come back with young affordable players we can mold into our system and stretch our window of true contention.

 

[djdev]

Unfortunately we have little say in the matter, I am sure we would be just as happy to draft Mobley as we would Green or Suggs. Its just a matter of who the unpicked player is of the big 4.

i hear you, just posting my opinion, much like everyone haha.
if we didnt have stuff like this to talk about there wouldnt be much activity here.

 

[The Nemesis]

I originally said I wouldn't do Wiggins + 7 for Siakam because I don't like Wiggins that much and the 7 would likely be another wing on a team that's loaded with wing guys. But if Wiseman was part of the package that changes things for me. The 14 would be gravy too.

Consider:
Trade Siakam + some low-end lottery ticket piece (Paul Watson?) + a 2nd for Wiggins, Wiseman, 7, 14.

Re-sign Trent for a 4+ years (length is irrelevant)
Draft Green/Suggs/Mobely at 4
I suspect Barnes and Kuminga go 5, 6. Take Keon Johnson at 7
Take Josh Giddey at 14
*address the Lowry situation depending on who the team gets at 4. If they get Suggs then Sign & Trade Lowry at the draft, hoping to pick up either a solid 2nd tier prospect and/or a mid/late 1st that the other team picks and completes the trade on later (think the Vasquez/Powell deal). If they get Mobley or green, re-sign Lowry for 2 years and explore trading him to a contender at the deadline or next off-season for a bigger haul.

The big issue becomes finding minutes for all the kids, but that's a great problem to have.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Anyone read the rumour on the athletic that the Warriors will try to use 7th + Wiseman for a win now player and Pascal Siakam is the guy they might target?

Would have to have Wiggins in the deal to match salaries. You’re probably looking at
Wiggins Wiseman 7 14
Pascal 46 47
Which I do in a heart beat. Going into the offseason you have
FVV Suggs/green Wiggins OG wiseman
With GTJ Boucher Malachi 7 14 MLE and Kyle S&T to fill out the roster.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[djdev]

i would hope so, you shouldnt let him walk given we gave up norm for him. whether hes part of the plan after that...im less certain

 

[Cor]

Anyone read the rumour on the athletic that the Warriors will try to use 7th + Wiseman for a win now player and Pascal Siakam is the guy they might target?

Pretty much depends on if Webster and Masai still believe Siakam can be a viable #1/#2 option for us and worth the max deal.

Siakam looked his best behind Lowry and Kawhi as options.

 

[Cor]

As we should. Dude fit in so well. Crazy good acquisition.

 

[Dr.Funk]

I'd gladly take on Wiggins contract(only 2 years left) in a deal that nets you the #7 pick this year and last years #2 pick.

 

[djdev]

Pretty much depends on if Webster and Masai still believe Siakam can be a viable #1/#2 option for us and worth the max deal.

Siakam looked his best behind Lowry and Kawhi as options.

i think he can be(or is) a solid #2, but hes never shown any signs to me of being a player that can score in iso in crunch time when the whole world knows the ball is coming to you. i think they signed him to that deal hoping to bring in a prized FA this offseason. unfortunately, the giannis plan backfired and we would need a true star player to compete within siakams window imo. i truly think we are better off trading him and doing a soft reboot with OG and this years number #4 being more of the foundation. keep VV as the next lowry type vet and readjust the window. thats the plan i would be looking at anyways.
the east isnt a joke anymore where you only had lebron to go through, you need to have a better team then what we had pre kawhi to compete in the postseason now in our conference.

 

[Puckstuff]

7, 14 and Wiseman is super interesting just based on this team's ability to draft and develop young talent. I don't know much about Wisemen so I won't comment on if they should do it but I would need 14th overall just to take the Wiggins contract. So then it's Wisemen + 7th overall for Siakam. If Massai pulled the trigger on that it's because he feels he can turn these picks into something so I'd be happy about it.

 

[trellaine201]

I love reading about all the possibilities. But if Masai isn’t staying whose pulling the strings on a big deal?

 

[Dr.Funk]

I love reading about all the possibilities. But if Masai isn’t staying whose pulling the strings on a big deal?

Bobby Webster

 

[trellaine201]

Is the Olympic qualifier games on TV? TSN maybe?

Found it CBC

FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament: Canada vs. Greece game preview, rosters, how to watch | NBA.com Canada | The official site of the NBA

 

[aingefan]

Wiseman and 7 for Siakam sounds almost too good to be true. With the pluses it takes to smooth out the rough edges.
C is the scarcest and rarest position to fill….no? And Wiseman projects pretty well.
Heck, pressure is probably off Wiggins on this roster too, and Nurse has a good history developing and maximizing swings. And a Canuck?

 

[Greek_physique]

I get salaries have to match, but if you acquire Wiggins doesn't that cripple Trent?

 

[djdev]

if we take suggs, i would really like to trade into the lottery to try and pick up sengun. he think hes worth the risk if we dont land mobley.

 

[Jozay]

Wiseman is trash. Wiggins isnt much. Its really just Siakam for the 7th overall pick.

 

[Cor]

I get salaries have to match, but if you acquire Wiggins doesn't that cripple Trent?

Not necessarily. This could always be flipped into a deal where we flip Wiggins for expiring deals or a 4. Even if we kept him, Wiggins would likely be our 6th man.

 

[saska sault]

Wiseman is trash. Wiggins isnt much. Its really just Siakam for the 7th overall pick.

Wiseman is going to be a pretty good big man, and will likely develop sone range. Considering he barely played the year before going straight into the NBA.. I think he has huge upside. I really doubt Golden State looks to move him.

 

[stickty111]

Wiseman is trash. Wiggins isnt much. Its really just Siakam for the 7th overall pick.

You are calling Wiseman trash after 1 season?

 

[IceColdBear]

Wiseman is going to be a pretty good big man, and will likely develop sone range. Considering he barely played the year before going straight into the NBA.. I think he has huge upside. I really doubt Golden State looks to move him.

Curry is 33, and Klay and Draymond are 31- Klay has major injury issues.

Their window with these guys is closing fast.

It would make sense to move Wiseman to try to win now - if you have a player like Steph Curry at 33, you should be trying to win now every year.

 

[Jozay]

You are calling Wiseman trash after 1 season?

Wiseman is going to be a pretty good big man, and will likely develop sone range. Considering he barely played the year before going straight into the NBA.. I think he has huge upside. I really doubt Golden State looks to move him.

The Warriors' season-in-review: James Wiseman

Saw that floating around on twitter. I would suggest reading it.

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
7th overall pick
14th overall pick
James Wiseman
Andrew Wiggins

To Golden State-
Pascal Siakim
2 2nd Round Picks

Sign and trade Lowry

 

[barilko05]

There's a rumour floating around that Detroit isn't sold on Cunningham. If that's the case, what could we offer to Houston or Cleveland if he's still available at 2 or 3? 4 and...what? And is he worth whatever we had to give up, over any of the other 3 (Suggs, Green, Mobley)?