Raptors Discussion: v93 | Panic level rising significantly
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Emerica
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For comparisons sake, just from today:
Jonathan Isaac signed for 4 years, $80M
Derrick White signed for 4 years, $73M
Luke Kennard signed for 4 years, $64M
Markelle Fultz signed for 3 years, $50M
We got OG for 4 years, $72M. He is a much better player than all these guys.
Jonathan Isaac signed for 4 years, $80M
Derrick White signed for 4 years, $73M
Luke Kennard signed for 4 years, $64M
Markelle Fultz signed for 3 years, $50M
We got OG for 4 years, $72M. He is a much better player than all these guys.
stickty111
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Nice contract that could prove to be a steal. OG proved me wrong last season. Had doubts about him as a player.
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Eh Isaac is really good and stands a good chance of recovering (in which case his contract has major steal potential) and White is low key a solid performer, but yes relative to Kennard/Fultz this is a great signing.
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Why would you flip Matt Thomas? He should the first guy off the bench. Im not sure why everyone has a love affair with Terrence Davis. He turns it over too much, forces plays and takes ridiculous shots. Powell would be the guy to move at this point IMO. Len never got much of a chance in preseason, hes always been an interesting player but never seems to put it together. I agree Boucher is still a little thin to matchup against bigger centers, but he has held his own and presents a mismatch on offence.
Because Matt Thomas is hard to watch. He can’t guard anyone and he’s easy for most teams to stop if they’ve done any homework. Watch the difference in how Charlotte guarded him in game 1 vs 2 - in 2 they were in him on the catch or denied the ball altogether. He can’t create for himself off the dribble, isn’t quick or agile enough to create space off the ball, and he’s undersized with well below average athleticism so he isn’t going to rise up and shoot over many guards... and watching Miami’s eyes light up when he entered the game was tough - he’s an easy bucket or free throws almost every time which forces Nurse to go zone. He literally can’t stay in front of anyone.
Davis can shoot 3s in your face and dunk on your head. No doubt he makes bad decisions and tries to do too much at times, but that’s common in a rookie. He had one of the best ts% so while you may not like some of his shot selection, he makes enough of them to keep shooting. Davis’ skills and physical tools offer a lot of upside that they’d love to realize and it just isn’t there with Thomas.
I singled him out because he’s the worst player on the bench but might be attractive to someone for the shooting. If they’re reading stats without watching the game they might think he can play.
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Great to have OG locked up fairly cheap throughout a good chunk of his prime years
The Podium
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I dont love it, I dont think we have the team for small ball.
Masai knows his only chance at attracting a top FA long term is to get them in the city before. Its a big adjustment to change countries, but once they are settled the team has more appeal than 90% of the league. Its easier to get them to stay then getting them to come. Although history doesnt support that, I think we are on the cusp of that change.
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pretty sure a lot of people said the same thing about JJ Reddick, who he reminds me of a little bit. I think his athleticism is underrated and he is a good playmaker as well. His defence has gotten miles better from last year. He’s a valuable piece of the bench
Reddick was a McDonalds all American and 5 star recruit. Went to Duke and picked 11th overall. Some consider him a bit of an underachiever considering his hype as a prospect. The book on these two entering the league couldn’t have been more different.
In an empty gym they might look alike. It’s a lot different with NBA defense and athletic wing defender chasing you on the pin downs he almost exclusively runs.
I agree he’s a situational player for the end of an NBA bench, but the Raptors are loaded with players who can affect winning at that position far better than him. If they’ve got an extra 5-10 mins for someone, it should go to a player like Bembry or Paul Watson who’ve earned an opportunity and can play both ends.
Hopefully Len or Watanabe play well and earn minutes (Len likely plays a bit anyway) but with a compressed schedule and possibility of both injuries and COVID, I think they’d be better suited to swap a piece or two of their wing/guard depth for front court depth if they can find a minor move that makes sense.
As far as the improved defense; watch him against a long and athletic team like Miami. He was a boy amongst men.
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The Nemesis
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I still patiently wait for the point where Kyrie does something hilariously self-sabotaging and screws it all up. It happened in Cleveland with him apparently desperately needing to get out of LeBron's shadow. It happened in Boston when things didn't go to plan and he started sulking. I figure it's only a matter of time before it happens to the Nets too. My money is on him having a falling out with the coaching staff after his off-season podcast bit where he basically said that he figures he and KD can/should be "the coaches" sometimes as if he doesn't need to listen to the people in charge.
That or they show themselves to be full of holes as a team when they're not beating up on the broken carcass that used to be the Golden State Warriors.
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I have Kyrie in my fantasy pool, picked him up early 3rd which is a steal but I'm worried about him. Hopefully he plays like he did last night and the drama holds off until next year.
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stickty111
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Yikes OG was a disaster today. Really bad game from the whole team though aside from a couple players.
The Nemesis
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Everything sucks. Life is a meaningless treadmill of disappointment.
At least this is gearing me up for the Sharks' season.
At least this is gearing me up for the Sharks' season.
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-Reddick is more athletic than Thomas
- Reddick can actually create his own shot/effectively score against playoff teams while not being a complete liability defensively.
He's nothing more than 3-point guy off the bench that's a liability defensively so not even 3&D...in the modern NBA that's not ideal.
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The Warriors are trash...but if KD is healthy like he appears then the Nets are coming out of the East. There is no player in the East that touches a healthy KD.
Kyrie for all his off-court issues is still one of the best 2nd options in the league. Lebron and him not clicking still led to 3 straight finals, 1 chip (2015 is most likely another chip if Kyrie didn't end his season with the knee injury in game 1). It took a 73-9 team adding prime KD to stop him and Lebron.
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They made it because of Lebron, he was the engine. They don't win anything without Kyrie though.
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