GDT: USA vs FIN Final - 2/22/14 @ 7:00am PST (NBCSN)

[Telos]

Dustin definitely needs to have an amazing offseason because his knee problems are starting to become a concern. His contract is quickly becoming scary.

 

[LAKings88]

I honestly don't care that much about the Olympics. Happy for Selanne. Special player and seems like genuinely good human being.

USA looked deflated. Brown wasn't the worst player on the team this tourney. For LAs sake I hope he steps up down the stretch. He is what he is, paid a lot to produce tho.

Feel bad for quickie and the endless should have been miller talks that will follow. I wish miller had started against the fins as I kinda expected the let down.

 

[PJ Kings Hockey]

“It shouldn’t be too hard,” (Quick) said, per PHT’s Jason Brough. “We do that all year long. We’re professionals. We play back-to-backs all year long.

There’s no reason we show up and not piss a drop.”

Needless to say, Quick wasn’t happy — though he made it clear he wasn’t happy with his own effort, either.

“My job is to stop the puck, and I didn’t do that very well,” he said. “Team effort. We weren’t good.”

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...ican-performance-following-bronze-medal-flop/

 

[ElKingsFan92]

Dustin definitely needs to have an amazing offseason because his knee problems are starting to become a concern. His contract is quickly becoming scary.

I'm not saying that I wish for another lockout, but if it really is his knee that's holding him back, I kinda wish that he had an entire year to rest and rehab it like Teemu did back during the 04-05 lockout. That year just rehabbing his knee added an almost 10 extra years to his career. Obviously Dustin's is no where near the calibre of player Teemu is, but maybe what worked for him could work for Brown.

 

[Quattro]

No one should be blaming Quick, but honestly, Brown has looked awful. It's not Brown's fault they lost but he hasn't stepped his game at all, unlike his counterparts (Kopi, Quick, Doughty, Carter). I'm so glad he went so he could suck on the international stage too. At this point, I just have no hope for Brown turning his season around.

It's statements like this that make me want to leave this place behind. Jesus *** christ.

 

[Reclamation Project]

A horrendous effort. I'm glad Quick was fuming. He worked his ass off all tournament long and this is how they repayed him. Pathetic.

 

[jml87]

It's statements like this that make me want to leave this place behind. Jesus *** christ.

What? Did Brown play spectacular when I wasn't looking? Like I said, all our other guys went to the Olympics and stepped up and impressed on the international stage (Maybe Voynov is debatable). Brown just did more of the same and he would've been better served just staying home and figuring out why he's been bad this year. Instead, he went all the way to Russia, played just as bad, came in fourth, and now is coming home with no added rest. I do not hate Dustin Brown, but he is not playing well and the playoffs are right around the corner. We need our captain if we want a chance at the Stanley Cup.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

A horrendous effort. I'm glad Quick was fuming. He worked his ass off all tournament long and this is how they repayed him. Pathetic.

I like pissed off Quick. That bodes well for us.

What? Did Brown play spectacular when I wasn't looking? Like I said, all our other guys went to the Olympics and stepped up and impressed on the international stage (Maybe Voynov is debatable). Brown just did more of the same and he would've been better served just staying home and figuring out why he's been bad this year. Instead, he went all the way to Russia, played just as bad, came in fourth, and now is coming home with no added rest. I do not hate Dustin Brown, but he is not playing well and the playoffs are right around the corner. We need our captain if we want a chance at the Stanley Cup.

No one said that, no need for hyperbole. Considering the season he's having, he actually performed better than a lot of his high-octane teammates who were no-shows. I don't know why anyone at all is focused on Brown's play in this tourney in a negative light as he's one of the few who showed up, did his job, and left. It's just a deflection tactic for those who don't want to complain about the MIA captain and the guys (Kessel, JVR, Parise, Pavelski???, etc.) who went missing in the important games. What a smokescreen.

And I still think all the worry about Brown's contract is a little premature. We know he's struggling with the knee. I can see it in his stride (and he always went down easy, but even more so this year). I said Kopitar would be back to normal after last year (when many wanted to ship him to Siberia because he didn't care anymore, was slowing down, not hurt, etc.) and that seems to be the case; I feel the same for Brown. Let's not execute the guy until he proves to be on the decline rather than just injured/battered.

Edit: I do agree with the rest of your statements about needing him for a cup run and the rest would have been nice. Didn't mean to skip over that. I also do not think he is going to turn it around this year. Brown, unfortunately, looked like toast going into the break and will likely look the same coming out of it.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Hopefully the Kings can start scoring more than a goal per game.

 

[jml87]

No one said that, no need for hyperbole. Considering the season he's having, he actually performed better than a lot of his high-octane teammates who were no-shows. I don't know why anyone at all is focused on Brown's play in this tourney in a negative light as he's one of the few who showed up, did his job, and left. It's just a deflection tactic for those who don't want to complain about the MIA captain and the guys (Kessel, JVR, Parise, Pavelski???, etc.) who went missing in the important games. What a smokescreen.

And I still think all the worry about Brown's contract is a little premature. We know he's struggling with the knee. I can see it in his stride (and he always went down easy, but even more so this year). I said Kopitar would be back to normal after last year (when many wanted to ship him to Siberia because he didn't care anymore, was slowing down, not hurt, etc.) and that seems to be the case; I feel the same for Brown. Let's not execute the guy until he proves to be on the decline rather than just injured/battered.

Edit: I do agree with the rest of your statements about needing him for a cup run and the rest would have been nice. Didn't mean to skip over that. I also do not think he is going to turn it around this year. Brown, unfortunately, looked like toast going into the break and will likely look the same coming out of it.

I'm only focused on Brown's play cause he is from our team. I'm in no way blaming Brown for Team USA's loss. I'm just annoyed that he went to the Olympics in Russia to play just 'ok' then come home for the stretch run. There was nothing beneficial for Brown from this trip. I was hoping he'd step up his play when it came to more consequential games like the rest of our guys did. But he didn't. Therefore, I think it was a waste.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm only focused on Brown's play cause he is from our team. I'm in no way blaming Brown for Team USA's loss. I'm just annoyed that he went to the Olympics in Russia to play just 'ok' then come home for the stretch run. There was nothing beneficial for Brown from this trip. I was hoping he'd step up his play when it came to more consequential games like the rest of our guys did. But he didn't. Therefore, I think it was a waste.

Fully agree with you here. FWIW, I was talking generally about the focus on Brown's play instead of Parise et. al. Elsewhere, people seem obsessed with "see should have taken Okposo/Ryan over Brown and his 5 min per game" as if he was the problem.

I would have preferred he rest, for sure. I'm no knee doctor, but I'm beginning to wonder if surgery would have been preferable to his current condition (looks like no explosiveness, reduced agility, shortened stride--sort of a big deal for an above-average skater who relies on his ability to skate for open-ice hitting).

 

[Ron*]

It's statements like this that make me want to leave this place behind. Jesus *** christ.

I agree. I've been considering it for a while as well. I seem to be out of touch with a lot of posters here.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Everyone needs to relax, jml was simply stating that instead of staying in LA and healing/recharging, he went to Russia and continued his poor play that will inevitably allow him to continue to underperform this season. Not everything has to be eloquently put. He's played like ass and going to the Olympics will only hinder him more. I love the guy, but facts are facts.

Wish he would have rested, recharged, and healed up in LA.

 

[Degenerate]

Everyone needs to relax, jml was simply stating that instead of staying in LA and healing/recharging, he went to Russia and continued his poor play that will inevitably allow him to continue to underperform this season. Not everything has to be eloquently put. He's played like ass and going to the Olympics will only hinder him more. I love the guy, but facts are facts.

Wish he would have rested, recharged, and healed up in LA.

It's easy to say that now, haha.

 

[King'sPawn]

What kind of sadist HOPES a player does poorly in the Olympics, let alone a player from a team you root for? Or enjoy these syruggles?

Goodness, people. Give your head a shake.

 

[Reclamation Project]

It was sarcasm.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Nationalism can do funny things to people. Thank goodness the Olympics is mostly over and we can get back to dissecting our roster in one piece instead of 5

 

[Degenerate]

Nationalism can do funny things to people. Thank goodness the Olympics is mostly over and we can get back to dissecting our roster in one piece instead of 5

True, but what's your point in the context of this thread/Olympic tournament?

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I agree. I've been considering it for a while as well. I seem to be out of touch with a lot of posters here.

Why is pointing out how atrocious Dustin Brown has been so taboo for some of you? Stop marrying yourselves to players.

The guy is literally having the worst season of his career and stinking it up at every level he plays. He deserves all the criticism aimed his way.

I'm very much done with Brown as a King. Watching all the borderline clownshoes hits this season, seeing him deservedly ride the pine in the Olympics...I don't know, man. I think we could get a lot for him in a trade that would help the team. I really don't see anything from him that deserves keeping anymore. Even in years past when he was derping around the ice offensively, he could always be a game changer with his physical play. But that's taken a monstrous turn for the worst this year, as well.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Nationalism can do funny things to people. Thank goodness the Olympics is mostly over and we can get back to dissecting our roster in one piece instead of 5

On the bright side, if the Kings gave up five goals the score would be 5-4. And it would have probably been against Calgary.

 

[Ron*]

Nationalism can do funny things to people. Thank goodness the Olympics is mostly over and we can get back to dissecting our roster in one piece instead of 5

Well said. My feeling all along has been these are my Kings players and I just want to see them come back unhurt. That's all I have ever cared about.

 

[jml87]

Everyone needs to relax, jml was simply stating that instead of staying in LA and healing/recharging, he went to Russia and continued his poor play that will inevitably allow him to continue to underperform this season. Not everything has to be eloquently put. He's played like ass and going to the Olympics will only hinder him more. I love the guy, but facts are facts.

Wish he would have rested, recharged, and healed up in LA.

Thank you, but I don't think some people are going to get what I'm trying to say. I did think that maybe the Olympics could boost his confidence, but that didn't happen, so now I just wish he'd had stayed home.

 

[Quattro]

Why is pointing out how atrocious Dustin Brown has been so taboo for some of you? Stop marrying yourselves to players.

He wasn't just pointing out that Brown played bad. He said he was enjoying that he was playing bad.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

True, but what's your point in the context of this thread/Olympic tournament?

Simply that the rooting against/trading of/hoping they suck of Kings players results from it. It's bizarro-Kingsboard.

Why is pointing out how atrocious Dustin Brown has been so taboo for some of you? Stop marrying yourselves to players.

The guy is literally having the worst season of his career and stinking it up at every level he plays. He deserves all the criticism aimed his way.

Don't get me wrong, I think criticism is very warranted. But I also think it's clear that this season (and potentially going forward, depending on what happens) he is hampered. It's not like someone dropped (another) an anvil on his head and he suddenly regressed. In a whole career of 50-60 points, hundreds of hits/near the league leaders, and captaining a team from the depths of the league to the stanley cup, we're collectively suddenly ready to proclaim his decline and discard him? I'm willing to give that player, the one who has laid his whole career on the line for this team, more than half a season to get his **** straight.

Thank you, but I don't think some people are going to get what I'm trying to say. I did think that maybe the Olympics could boost his confidence, but that didn't happen, so now I just wish he'd had stayed home.

Sorry if I misinterpreted. I am, again, full on board with you here. I thought it could be a boost. And hey, he DID triple his away points with his performance in Sochi

 

[jml87]

He wasn't just pointing out that Brown played bad. He said he was enjoying that he was playing bad.

What? No, I wasn't. I was being sarcastic. Is that what everyone thinks? Why would I actually want to see Brown do bad?

Sorry if I misinterpreted. I am, again, full on board with you here. I thought it could be a boost. And hey, he DID triple his away points with his performance in Sochi

It's okay. Apparently, I need to work on my sarcasm, lol.