GDT: USA vs FIN Final - 2/22/14 @ 7:00am PST (NBCSN)

[Degenerate]

I take part of my comment back, only because he was actually in the AHL when he played in the Olympics in 94'. Still a greedy tool though.

 

[Scottkmlps]

No, there won't be a next time because the owners are sick and tired of this and they just aren't going to let their star players get injured and screw with their team's respective season ticket holders. One only has to see the Islanders' GM's reaction to Taveres' injury to have a vision into what the future is gonna be in 2018.

And look at how many players gave a half-hearted effort to avoid injury in the first place. I'm not gonna quote the post above but there are a lot of zeroes up there. Zero for zero effort.

What owners have come out and said they are sick & tired of it? Snow, a GM not an owner, came out with harsh comments, that's it so far. Has Holland or Ilitch said anything about the injury to Zetterberg? Not that I've seen. The owners know the exposure their players get. When players get exposure, their NHL teams get exposure. It's more money in their pockets in the long run because of that exposure. The same reason the NHL continued with the Europe series to start past seasons. Exposure.
If they don't send NHL players to the Olympics, they might as well not send them to the World Championships as well. You never know, a player might get a serious injury in the World Championships like Tavares just got in the Olympics and not be available to their NHL team until December or January. Eating up 2-3 months of the season.

 

[Degenerate]

What owners have come out and said they are sick & tired of it? Snow, a GM not an owner, came out with harsh comments, that's it so far. Has Holland or Ilitch said anything about the injury to Zetterberg? Not that I've seen. The owners know the exposure their players get. When players get exposure, their NHL teams get exposure. It's more money in their pockets in the long run because of that exposure. The same reason the NHL continued with the Europe series to start past seasons. Exposure.

Exactly, I am sure when situations like Oshies happen and their value and popularity/exposure goes up because of the Olympics, they are just fine with sending their players.

 

[Reclamation Project]

I was planning on going to Pyeongchang for the Olympics. However, if the NHL doesn't send players, I won't be going. Well, at least not for the Olympics.

@helenenothelen: Cam Fowler: 'I feel bad for Quickie. He really put us on his back all tournament. We didn’t do a good enough job in front of him today.'

Sigh...quick

Glad someone said it. Good on Fowler.

 

[Virtanen18]

No, there won't be a next time because the owners are sick and tired of this and they just aren't going to let their star players get injured and screw with their team's respective season ticket holders. One only has to see the Islanders' GM's reaction to Taveres' injury to have a vision into what the future is gonna be in 2018.

And look at how many players gave a half-hearted effort to avoid injury in the first place. I'm not gonna quote the post above but there are a lot of zeroes up there. Zero for zero effort.

Tavares' career isn't over, just his season. He's already got the season ticket holders' money, so it doesn't matter. Just an overreaction from an awful GM. The same one that was crying because his boy Okposo DIDN'T get to go to the Olympics. Garth Snow's a clown.

 

[KingLB]

Tavares' career isn't over, just his season. He's already got the season ticket holders' money, so it doesn't matter. Just an overreaction from an awful GM. The same one that was crying because his boy Okposo DIDN'T get to go to the Olympics. Garth Snow's a clown.

Irony being that it could save the Isle's franchise...if they tank probably the rest of the season they could get a nice pick. The team they have currently assembled seems destined for black whole territory for the foreseeable future...

 

[Reclamation Project]

If anything, Barclays Center will save the Islanders.

 

[apadilla]

Irony being that it could save the Isle's franchise...if they tank probably the rest of the season they could get a nice pick. The team they have currently assembled seems destined for black whole territory for the foreseeable future...

The Isle's nice pick (may) belongs to Buffalo (from the Vanek - Moulson trade). It is either '14 or '15's 1st.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Wrong wrong wrong.

Been hearing since 2002 that the NHL wasn't going to send players, every time they end up going because all the players and apparently most of the owners want it, ofcourse if you want to be on the side of Garth Snow and Ed Snider (the worst GM and Owner in the league), go right ahead.
Funny how some owners like Snider talk about the injury risk, but they have no problems proposing a World Cup during the summer, or all the stupid pre-season games the NHL has, ofcourse that's ok because they are lining their pockets with those. And how hysterical the league that still supports bare knuckle fighting suddenly acts like they give a crap about player safety, it's comical, but that is for another thread I guess.

The players will be there because the players overwhelmingly want to be there and the owners will use that fact to get some kind of token concession in CBA talks.

Snider is the worst owner in the league? You clearly have issues or no clue. I for one would rather see a World Cup. But that is for another day.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If they do end up going in 2018, I hope one stipulation is that they use NHL sized rinks because the quality of these games has been unbearable with the bigger ice surface. It's so easy to play a shutdown game as demonstrated by the Swedes, Finns and Canada. Just go into prevent mode and wait for mistakes to capitalize on. That's how I feel most of these games have gone with little flow back-and-forth.

 

[Pucknut50]

I will be rooting for Dustin Brown harder then I ever have because I am so tired of people hear blaming him for everything but the economy. GO DUSTIN BROWN I HAVE YOUR BACK!!!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I will be rooting for Dustin Brown harder then I ever have because I am so tired of people hear blaming him for everything but the economy. GO DUSTIN BROWN I HAVE YOUR BACK!!!

I'll be cheering for him to stop playing like crap as well.

 

[MsMeow]

You guys are over-reacting. Finland was never considered in the top 4 so going for bronze was huge for them. The Americans were top 4 so of course it took the wind out of their sails to get bounced in the semis.

 

[kingsfan28]

When you throw out a tweet like this, are you not surprised he's getting a ton of flack?

Ken Campbell ‏@THNKenCampbell

Bronze medal game did nothing to dispel notion that hockey in USA is played only by pampered, entitled, rich kids. http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/t...-country-with-embarrassing-bronze-medal-game/ …

 

[Ron*]

I will be rooting for Dustin Brown harder then I ever have because I am so tired of people hear blaming him for everything but the economy. GO DUSTIN BROWN I HAVE YOUR BACK!!!

Agreed. QFT.

 

[Ron*]

When you throw out a tweet like this, are you not surprised he's getting a ton of flack?

Ken Campbell ‏@THNKenCampbell

Bronze medal game did nothing to dispel notion that hockey in USA is played only by pampered, entitled, rich kids. http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/th...ze-medal-game/ …

Interesting article. Once you get past the hook, and read the article, he criticizes Bylsma by asserting Dustin Brown should have had more minutes in the two losses, saying "Dustin Brown, a character player who has won a Stanley Cup, played sparingly in both games."

 

[HYORI 1963]

I will be rooting for Dustin Brown harder then I ever have because I am so tired of people hear blaming him for everything but the economy. GO DUSTIN BROWN I HAVE YOUR BACK!!!

Great post, and I agree 100%!

 

[Ron*]

What owners have come out and said they are sick & tired of it? Snow, a GM not an owner, came out with harsh comments, that's it so far. Has Holland or Ilitch said anything about the injury to Zetterberg? Not that I've seen. The owners know the exposure their players get. When players get exposure, their NHL teams get exposure. It's more money in their pockets in the long run because of that exposure. The same reason the NHL continued with the Europe series to start past seasons. Exposure.
If they don't send NHL players to the Olympics, they might as well not send them to the World Championships as well. You never know, a player might get a serious injury in the World Championships like Tavares just got in the Olympics and not be available to their NHL team until December or January. Eating up 2-3 months of the season.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/sports/hockey/nhl-and-players-differ-over-2018-games.html

 

[HYORI 1963]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/sports/hockey/nhl-and-players-differ-over-2018-games.html

Why are you so against having nhl players in the olympics? Personally, I'm ok either way. To me, there has been no other sporting event close to being as exciting as the 1980's men's hockey team defeating the soviet union and then eventually winning the gold. However, if the other nations are bringing their professional athletes, why don't US?

 

[kingsfan28]

Interesting article. Once you get past the hook, and read the article, he criticizes Bylsma by asserting Dustin Brown should have had more minutes in the two losses, saying "Dustin Brown, a character player who has won a Stanley Cup, played sparingly in both games."

Yeah that's what I got out of it. He knew damn well what he was doing by throwing out that headline.It's all about page hits for so many writers these days. While Brown didn't play great, neither did many of the guys who were put on the team to score and play great. Too many are making Brown out to be the goat on the team, when he was far from it. I think Kane,JVR,Pavelski, and Parise had a combined 3 goals between them in 6 games.

 

[Reclamation Project]

When you throw out a tweet like this, are you not surprised he's getting a ton of flack?

Ken Campbell is a ****ing hack.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Interesting article. Once you get past the hook, and read the article, he criticizes Bylsma by asserting Dustin Brown should have had more minutes in the two losses, saying "Dustin Brown, a character player who has won a Stanley Cup, played sparingly in both games."

Ridiculous....Brown has been **** for about a year straight, and all of a sudden he's supposed to be a MVP? I'm not sure I would have even put him on the team the way he's played this season.

 

[Jason Lewis]

Yeah that's what I got out of it. He knew damn well what he was doing by throwing out that headline.It's all about page hits for so many writers these days. While Brown didn't play great, neither did many of the guys who were put on the team to score and play great. Too many are making Brown out to be the goat on the team, when he was far from it. I think Kane,JVR,Pavelski, and Parise had a combined 3 goals between them in 6 games.

I just got chirped by some dude on twitter for saying that Brown was effective.

When you look at his role, a 3rd/4th liner, no PP time, with 10 minutes a night...meh 3 points in 6 games is absolutely fine.

It's a moot point though regardless considering no one showed up for the two games that mattered.

If you really want to start splitting hairs about qualification stages vs. the knockout rounds...Kessel had 6 of his 8 points against Slovenia and Slovakia. Slippery slope when you start doing stuff like that. So....yea....to lay blame on Brown is a little much for me. He was fine given his role. Whether or not that role should have been increased is a different story.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I just got chirped by some dude on twitter for saying that Brown was effective.

When you look at his role, a 3rd/4th liner, no PP time, with 10 minutes a night...meh 3 points in 6 games is absolutely fine.

It's a moot point though regardless considering no one showed up for the two games that mattered.

If you really want to start splitting hairs about qualification stages vs. the knockout rounds...Kessel had 6 of his 8 points against Slovenia and Slovakia. Slippery slope when you start doing stuff like that. So....yea....to lay blame on Brown is a little much for me. He was fine given his role. Whether or not that role should have been increased is a different story.

Amen. He was brought to play a role and played it well in his limited minutes, even despite his bad year.

When you throw out a tweet like this, are you not surprised he's getting a ton of flack?

That was such a hack job. The article itself was fine--criticising America's heart and play vs. the Fin--but the premises don't match the title/conclusion: America played without heart (because that's quantifiable) in a bronze medal game thus they match the opinion that isn't mine (yeah, right--where did that come from?) that American hockey players are entitled whiny babies. Hurr hurr Canadian superiority farm boys vs. capitalist U.S. brats. He may as well have entitled it "OH GOD PLEASE READ ME." Was the written THN equivalent of an Eklund e3. I sent him a nastygram about it and I'm pretty shocked that such an intrinsically smug, ethnocentric "suck it, America" got past the editors.

Like, if it wasn't so extreme, I get it--U.S. hockey is a socioeconomically tough game to get into (especially in parts of the US without winter weather--ice time is expensive and you cant just slap on blades and hop on your pond without sinking to the bottom), but the idea that the cream of the crop is a bunch of trust-fund brats is appalling, inaccurate, and flat out disrespectful to both the U.S. and their opponent (because Finland wasn't good on their own behalf).

But it's Ken Campbell. So there's also that. I shouldn't let him troll me with that garbage I guess I'm just offended that tools like that have a fairly prominent writing job when a bunch of great journalists I went to school with have to freelance.

 

[2-4 Slashin]

Bandini...

It took 24 hours for us to go from possible contenders for gold to this. What medal do they give for fourth? Copper? Aluminum?

Steaming Cowchips!