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Management UPDATE: Steve Staios GM and POHO, Dave Poulin Senior VP of Hockey Operations

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BonHoonLayneCornell said:
The problem is this scenario is predicated on this all being what they want, which we don't know.

I think you have to be more open to the idea they want a long interview process in the summer and that Gruden is no certainty to be the one chosen. We've seen these analysts be wrong more often than they are right.
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sick of waiting for another wasted season......
 
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Tnuoc Alucard said:
sick of waiting for another wasted season......
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This season is already done though. I get putting out there what YOU want to happen, but I think it deserves repeating that they may not even want Gruden. That could be a pile of BS. Could be mildy BS with some truth. Maybe they want to see if other guys become available. Etc. etc.
 
Big Muddy said:
Weren't you happy with bad results and wasted seasons from the previous regime that spanned many years?
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No I was not…

BonHoonLayneCornell said:
This season is already done though. I get putting out there what YOU want to happen, but I think it deserves repeating that they may not even want Gruden. That could be a pile of BS. Could be mildy BS with some truth. Maybe they want to see if other guys become available. Etc. etc
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there are “Birds in hand” right now….that have good pedigrees …. vs ?????? In the off-season.
 
Tnuoc Alucard said:
No I was not…




there are “Birds in hand” right now….that have good pedigrees …. vs ?????? In the off-season.
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What if they are not the birds they want?

What if the bird in hand is only option B and their risk assessment says he'll be available in the summer, and if not, their option C is comparable?

The goal is not to hire the best available coach as of right now. The goal is to get the best coach for next season that's available now or in the off season.

It's almost like you're saying it's more important to get a new coach in now than who it ultimately is.
 
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BonHoonLayneCornell said:
It's almost like you're saying it's more important to get a new coach in now than who it ultimately is.
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Not almost, it’s exactly what my opinion is.

Love J Martin, but he’s definitely not going to be the coach next season, and I hope he resumes his consulting role.

He can’t run practices, and I don’t see this as much more than a tutoring job, and the players know they will have a new coach next year, and human nature being what it is, they know a new message and culture is coming next season….. why not begin now?

whomever they hire in the off-season, would have been better off having these 40 or more games under their belt…. as Rick Tochett if the last half of last season was beneficial to him, as their coach, and to management when they watched the last half of the season, and based on the play of the players, aided them in roster moves…. Who to move on from, who to bring into the system Tochett employed….
 
Tnuoc Alucard said:
Not almost, it’s exactly what my opinion is.

Love J Martin, but he’s definitely not going to be the coach next season, and I hope he resumes his consulting role.

He can’t run practices, and I don’t see this as much more than a tutoring job, and the players know they will have a new coach next year, and human nature being what it is, they know a new message and culture is coming next season….. why not begin now?

whomever they hire in the off-season, would have been better off having these 40 or more games under their belt…. as Rick Tochett if the last half of last season was beneficial to him, as their coach, and to management when they watched the last half of the season, and based on the play of the players, aided them in roster moves…. Who to move on from, who to bring into the system Tochett employed….
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I can respect that.

I certainly don't think it would be a bad thing if they could get their guy in early, but for me, the priority is getting the right guy above all else, without making any concessions for the timing to do it now. In the back of my mind, the potential of some guys like Sullivan or Cooper being available is pretty hard to say no to, but more so, I just like the idea of a very methodical approach with numerous candidates and interviews.

And I love JM too, and is in large part why I'm happy to leave it be and think it's the best route, at this point. He's about as good of a "substitute teacher" as we could have found and has THE Ottawa Senator with him to help. If we'd say just promoted our AHL guy that didn't have my confidence, I'd be more on your side with pursuing someone now, but I do think the ship is turning around and it's painfully obvious when you watch them play, regardless of points %.
 
Tnuoc Alucard said:
Not almost, it’s exactly what my opinion is.

Love J Martin, but he’s definitely not going to be the coach next season, and I hope he resumes his consulting role.

He can’t run practices, and I don’t see this as much more than a tutoring job, and the players know they will have a new coach next year, and human nature being what it is, they know a new message and culture is coming next season….. why not begin now?

whomever they hire in the off-season, would have been better off having these 40 or more games under their belt…. as Rick Tochett if the last half of last season was beneficial to him, as their coach, and to management when they watched the last half of the season, and based on the play of the players, aided them in roster moves…. Who to move on from, who to bring into the system Tochett employed….
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How do you even know who they have their eyes on as head coach and if he's even available right now?
 
Pierre from Orleans said:
How do you even know who they have their eyes on as head coach and if he's even available right now?
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You listen to local radio, watch TSN “insiders” segments on TV, read the local papers?
The most common rumoured name is Gruden, in the leafs organization.

make of that what you want, but when we all see available candidates, since Dec 18th, and none of them have been interviewed, and with an interim put in place until the end of the season according to the rookie GM,. pretty much everyone can come to the conclusion that he is waiting for the off season.

sure these are rumours and speculations ….. but the same could be said of Staois, before he was hired by MA, so where there is smoke, there is a good chance there is fire.

Cosmix said:
I think we are seeing Staios waiting for Gruden.
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And if that is the case… has SS asked permission, from the leafs, to talk to him?
 
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Tnuoc Alucard said:
You listen to local radio, watch TSN “insiders” segments on TV, read the local papers?
The most common rumoured name is Gruden, in the leafs organization.

make of that what you want, but when we all see available candidates, since Dec 18th, and none of them have been interviewed, and with an interim put in place until the end of the season according to the rookie GM,. pretty much everyone can come to the conclusion that he is waiting for the off season.

sure these are rumours and speculations ….. but the same could be said of Staois, before he was hired by MA, so where there is smoke, there is a good chance there is fire.
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After listening to Staois in his various press conferences, I get the feeling that he doesn't really reveal that much when he speaks to the media. He says logical things that sound good, but I think he's holding his cards close to his vest. I don't fault him for that. Its actually a good thing as I don't think revealing your plans to your competitors via the media is a good thing.

One thing I'm fascinated by is the talk of getting a veteran. While I agree it would be good, I think it's not going to be easy to thread the needle on this. He still has to either re-sign or replace Tarasenko, and Pinto will get an increase with his new contract. So, next year's cap situation is going to be a little tighter than some are imagining I'd think (yes, all of the players withOUT contracts next year have already been excluded).
 
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Crosside said:
Yeah we all know that Ottawa fan don’t care about French fans. When our building will miss 4000-5000 people , don’t ask why
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I don’t think that’s fair at all.

As a francophone fan I’ve seen distinct improvement in how the team approaches marketing in French. More snippets of Jo/G/Chabby speaking French, continued emphasis on Norris trying to learn it. Bilingual intermission entertainment + higher % french national anthem when we play Montreal. The owner even answers questions in French during pressers and does interviews in French on French stations. It’s great.

We have more Francophones/french speakers as players than Montreal. Two Québecois, a Franco ontarien and a Franco manitobain, I suspect a fransaskois but can’t be sure. Two of them wear A’s.

Heck they even named a francophone from freaking Rockland as interim head coach.

Claude Julien is probably still in the mix for the head coach job this summer as well and it was rumoured there was interest in Mathieu Darche for GM.

In terms of courting the Francophones in Ottawa and Gatineau, Andlauer « gets it » for sure. It’s a side benefit I hadn’t considered when he kept being named as front runner to buy the team.

What more do we want here?
 
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HoweHullOrr said:
After listening to Staois in his various press conferences, I get the feeling that he doesn't really reveal that much when he speaks to the media. He says logical things that sound good, but I think he's holding his cards close to his vest. I don't fault him for that. Its actually a good thing as I don't think revealing your plans to your competitors via the media is a good thing.

One thing I'm fascinated by is the talk of getting a veteran. While I agree it would be good, I think it's not going to be easy to thread the needle on this. He still has to either re-sign or replace Tarasenko, and Pinto will get an increase with his new contract. So, next year's cap situation is going to be a little tighter than some are imagining I'd think (yes, all of the players withOUT contracts next year have already been excluded).
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Not to mention Sandersons’ compensation jumps to 8.05 Million AAV
 
Crosside said:
Yeah we all know that Ottawa fan don’t care about French fans. When our building will miss 4000-5000 people , don’t ask why
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“French Fans” would be those who reside in France…

Yes, I know you mean Canadian fans, whose first language is French, and the majority of them, in the National Capital region, reside in Gatineau Quebec and eastern Ontario.
 
Tnuoc Alucard said:
Not to mention Sandersons’ compensation jumps to 8.05 Million AAV
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Yes true, but all the players under contract for next year are already factored into the cap calculation. I was focused on the gaps in the roster where the holes need to be filled & players with expiring contracts that need new contracts. You can get the cap number that is already committed from CapFriendly (or a spreadsheet for those inclined in that direction). Seems simple to dig that info up and therefore not have to spend redundant time on what is already known & calculated.
 
The leaks about Mathieu Drache, Jason Spezza, hiring a GM in the summer, keeping Dorion and DJ…

One thing for sure…

This Sens team has made every single person wrong from the start of this season on almost everything. Media won’t even say the Sens have improved their play because they’re still reeling from their pre season predictions x anc been burned so many times by this team.

It won’t be Chris Taney, it’ll be Chris Nilan
 
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What we are clearly seeing is that Staios and Poulin are going to be very careful and deliberate. They won't do anything rash, and they definitely won't show their hand in public as Dorion was prone to do...
 
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