Uh Oh. Matt Murray Leaves Practice LTIR'd (injury discussion)

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I get what you mean but this is a team that’s supposed to be Cup contenders, how the hell is this ridiculous cap/LTIR gymnastics with unreliable goaltending supposed to get us through the playoffs? This is on Dubas for not finding/drafting good goaltending. It doesn’t help that he’s the reason we have no cap space.

How is the current GM responsible for not drafting a NHL goaltender before he was the GM?

Signing a free agent or trading for one, perhaps.

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How is the current GM responsible for not drafting a NHL goaltender before he was the GM?

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Wdym, he’s been GM for years and has yet to draft a goalie that’s played consistently in the NHL. Lou also failed to draft one. His signings have prevented us from resigning goalies like Campbell and Andersen.
 
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pulling the 'chute before he has to play his old team ?
Yep you have to wonder about his mental toughness. Did he think he felt a tweek or not.
Last yr he would always feel something and leave the game.
All goaltenders go through minor injuries through the yr, the great ones deal with it.
Do us all a favor and retire.
Way to go dubas.
At least Campbell played through rib injury
 
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I guess going on LTIR is the next best thing if you're going to be hurt. Gives the team so wriggle room to figure things out. Scary how this is mirroring the start of Mrazek's tenure in Toronto, and now the goaltending is in the hands of a sub $2 million guy.
 
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I get what you mean but this is a team that’s supposed to be Cup contenders, how the hell is this ridiculous cap/LTIR gymnastics with unreliable goaltending supposed to get us through the playoffs? This is on Dubas for not finding/drafting good goaltending. It doesn’t help that he’s the reason we have no cap space.

Goalies take notorious amounts of time to be ready and are also notoriously awful at projecting how good they'll be. Goalies are voodoo. Can't forget Woll was drafted same year as Matthews.

Since the moment Matthews was drafted there's been a grand total of 3 goalies drafted by any team to see regular playing time. None of them are stars. Well Jake Oettinger is a star. XD
 
Wdym, he’s been GM for years and has yet to draft a goalie that’s played consistently in the NHL. Lou also failed to draft one.
How many goalies from the 2018 draft or later are even playing in the NHL yet?

Goalies take time to develop. There are lots of reasons to criticize Dubas but him not having a drafted goalie on the NHL roster isn’t one of them
 
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Making it really f***ing hard to justify this trade.

Just awful optics.
It actually makes the trade better IMO. It was either he bounces back and is worth the trade, or the 4D Chess trade-a-third-for-4mil-in-cap-space move I suggested (mostly tongue in cheek) back when the trade happened. I don't give a shit about "optics".
 
Wdym, he’s been GM for years and has yet to draft a goalie that’s played consistently in the NHL. Lou also failed to draft one.

You can go back to JFJ days before you can say we picked a good goalie or even NHL calibre
James Reimer is the last goalie we drafted that played regularly in NHL. Other was Gareth Sparks

JFJ drafted Tukka Rask, James Reimer and Justin Pogge. Ironically enough, the one that was supposed to be a sure thing never made it to NHL

Hunter/Lou did draft Ian Scott. Who looked very promising so did Woll. Apparently Jeremy Swayman was convinced he was going to be a Leafs, for some reason Hunter picked Scott when there was almost a verbal agreement that Leafs would pick Swayman

Dubas has picked his shares of goalies, but they just haven't panned out yet.

It's really not for lack of trying.
 
Yes, very wrong. It's bad luck and you're not a Leafs fan if you don't think this.
The whole hockey world agreed this summer, everything I read, except here it was this massive argument. Seemed self evident.
 
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How is the current GM responsible for not drafting a NHL goaltender before he was the GM?

Signing a free agent or trading for one, perhaps.

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The same thing with the defence.
He's always thinking offense even though we have a tone of offense.
He has never learnt how to build a team and we will suffer for it.
 
Unquestionably Dubas' biggest weakness as a GM. He doesn't know goalies to save his life.

i wonder how many times will i need to repeat that only 3 goalies since the moment matthews was drafted has seen regular playing time in the NHL?

I'm going to guess a lot.

edit: oh shit my bad it was 4. i missed swayman.
 
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Goalies take notorious amounts of time to be ready and are also notoriously awful at projecting how good they'll be. Goalies are voodoo. Can't forget Woll was drafted same year as Matthews.

Since the moment Matthews was drafted there's been a grand total of 3 goalies drafted by any team to see regular playing time. None of them are stars. Well Jake Oettinger is a star. XD
That's true but drafting isn't the only way to get a goalie, so if we didn't draft a top goaltending prospect it had to be addressed in another way. It isn't just bad luck that we have arguably the worst goaltending in the league in Dubas' 5th season as GM.
 
You can go back to JFJ days before you can say we picked a good goalie or even NHL calibre
James Reimer is the last goalie we drafted that played regularly in NHL. Other was Gareth Sparks

JFJ drafted Tukka Rask, James Reimer and Justin Pogge. Ironically enough, the one that was supposed to be a sure thing never made it to NHL

Hunter/Lou did draft Ian Scott. Who looked very promising so did Woll. Apparently Jeremy Swayman was convinced he was going to be a Leafs, for some reason Hunter picked Scott when there was almost a verbal agreement that Leafs would pick Swayman

Dubas has picked his shares of goalies, but they just haven't panned out yet.

It's really not for lack of trying.
Then hire the best scout to find us some.
f*** we have more money than God.
 
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Un freakin believable Muttay is hurt already………..maybe some of you guys will now believe some of us when we said it was an awful signinging
 
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