Uh Oh. Matt Murray Leaves Practice LTIR'd (injury discussion)

[DarkKnight]

Weren't his prior injuries mostly concussions though?

Why is it that every goalie that comes here suddenly has a glass groin? It is definitely suspicious when it only becomes a problem here, and I thought they fixed this problem with their medical staff in the offseason... Clearly not.

Not true, he’s had groin problems before too:

Murray’s Fragile Health Now Cause for Several Concerns

Matt Murray is a 6-foot-4 goaltender who has won two Stanley Cups and supplanted a beloved veteran. He has also suffered three lower body injuries including a torn groin, a broken hand, one upper body injury and now three concussions. No, he doesn’t answer to the name “Lucky,” but the Penguins...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

 

[Paradoc]

Sigh… he didn’t even last one game before getting injured

 

[TheVision]

The only shocking part about this, is that some seem to be shocked!

This is great news for Mr Samsonov. who's betting on himself to begin with. Let's see what you got! Murray was never going to be the solution here, I think most of us knew that going in.

 

[ToneDog]

Sigh… he didn’t even last one game before getting injured

Technically he did last 1 game and he lost it with a shitty glove hand.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Well I guess we are going to find out if Samsonov can be the guy

 

[Lemontree]

Leafs Nation Poll:

What will be the higher total while Matt Murray is a Toronto Maple Leaf:

Wins or games missed due to injury?

 

[rocketman588]

I'd rather fire Dubas OW and let Matty pick our next GM LOL

Why would Matty want dubas gone

No one is going to let him just get whatever he wants in a negotiaton it's why we're not signing dudes long term. Lubing for the 3 amigos

 

[Osmows OReilly]

How does Dubas still have a job… lol jk we know the answer.

 

[GoonieFace]

Murray is more valuable with his 4.5m dollar ass sitting on IR than he is letting in goals on the ice. But what genius thought bringing him in was a good idea? Anyone with half a brain could see this coming

Dubas was desperate, has no clue what he’s doing, so he rolled the dice on a couple of wildcards. Pretty sure everyone knew the inevitable Murray injury was coming.

 

[rocketman588]

Part of the reason jack was bad last year was that he had to play with a rib injury for a long stretch.

Basically took one for the team stats wise

 

[mcleex]

Another quality signing/trade by Dubas

 

[rocketman588]

These moves IMO are done by teams that are looking for a rebuild/retool not trying to win. It baffles me seriously the takes that I see here sometimes.

Yeppp the 4.5 is worth more then the this in this cap Market anyways...

 

[DarkKnight]

He had a groin injury in April of 2021. And missed games 3 other times for lower body injuries



Something we didn't do during the off season when there were actually goalies to sign because that's not genius enough of a move. Not having a contract slot to sign one is a next level move to fake out the league.

We're legends

He had a groin injury in Pitt as well.

 

[DopeyFish]

I can’t tell if the people saying the Murray signing was 4-D chess are serious or not…lol.

it was. the leafs had very little options. Fleury refused to go to canada. So we had to choose from backups.

So Leafs ate cap, took murray (which came with picks) and that allows the leafs to hopefully function as a proper 1a/1b pairing... plus sheltering kallgren and woll (especially) because they're not ready for primetime. If murray goes down, then Leafs still have options. .. and that's what this front office does is try to layer that position.

Good goalies do not grow on trees and it seems people keep falsely assuming that there's an ed belfour or curtis joseph just ready and available to save us because there was one before. We got lucky in the early 2000s and since then we've had poor luck with prospects (except rask wtf jfj)

people really need to go look at what goalies were available because it was bad... especially in the price range we needed.

$4.6 million would get you a choice from:

Eric Comrie (unreliable)
Charlie Lindgren (unreliable)
Martin Jones (unreliable)
Ilya Samsonov (we got him)
Jaroslav Halak (old)
Calvin Pickard (unreliable)
Kevin Lankinen
Louis Domingue
Thomas Greiss (old)
------- everyone under this point earning less than a million -------
David Rittich (lol)
pheonix copley
aaron dell
dustin tokarski
cory schneider
zach sawchenko
antoine bibeau
it just gets so much worse from there

pretty much the free agency outside of Campbell (which we couldn't afford) and Kuemper (who we also couldn't afford) was a giant pile of ass. So Leafs just layered, got good potential at risk and decent potential at minimal risk and went from there.

 

[fahad203]

Erik Kallgren is the real MVP of this team
You can say all you want, last year he won some some games despite of being the 5th in the goalie chart.

Again he's asked to come into a situation not really the most ideal for him. But he's getting paid in NHL dollars, so that's something

 

[Leaf Fans]

Sigh… he didn’t even last one game before getting injured

He lasted one game.

 

[killer1980]

Just another brilliant move by the boy genius. Not only is the guy injury prone but he has also been pretty lousy the last few years. Extend Dubas contract he's an f***** genius.

 

[Anthrax442]

I hope he is sent to Robidas island

 

[fahad203]

If you are placed in LTIR, what's the minimum amount of games you have to miss?

 

[rocketman588]

it was. the leafs had very little options. Fleury refused to go to canada. So we had to choose from backups.

So Leafs ate cap, took murray (which came with picks) and that allows the leafs to hopefully function as a proper 1a/1b pairing... plus sheltering kallgren and woll (especially) because they're not ready for primetime. If murray goes down, then Leafs still have options. .. and that's what this front office does is try to layer that position.

Good goalies do not grow on trees and it seems people keep falsely assuming that there's an ed belfour or curtis joseph just ready and available to save us because there was one before. We got lucky in the early 2000s and since then we've had poor luck with prospects (except rask wtf jfj)

people really need to go look at what goalies were available because it was bad... especially in the price range we needed.

$4.6 million would get you a choice from:

Eric Comrie (unreliable)
Charlie Lindgren (unreliable)
Martin Jones (unreliable)
Ilya Samsonov (we got him)
Jaroslav Halak (old)
Calvin Pickard (unreliable)
Kevin Lankinen
Louis Domingue
Thomas Greiss (old)
------- everyone under this point earning less than a million -------
David Rittich (lol)
pheonix copley
aaron dell
dustin tokarski
cory schneider
zach sawchenko
antoine bibeau
it just gets so much worse from there

pretty much the free agency outside of Campbell (which we couldn't afford) and Kuemper (who we also couldn't afford) was a giant pile of ass. So Leafs just layered, got good potential at risk and decent potential at minimal risk and went from there.

We're paying more for our tandem then jack and Lindgren would have been

But we also could have tried to get husso and vanecheck

Might not have been better but both would have probably at least been able to play

 

[DopeyFish]

If you are placed in LTIR, what's the minimum amount of games you have to miss?

10 games/24 days

We're paying more for our tandem then jack and Lindgren would have been

But we also could have tried to get husso and vanecheck

Might not have been better but both would have probably at least been able to play

as long as samsonov doesn't go down we're fine... or should be.

campbell cracked under pressure. murray just cracks. so in the end we needed a change but while murray isn't ideal he is a decent gamble.

people also can't forget about the choice players have. We can say we could have got lindgren but could we have? Perhaps he only wanted to play in the USA and we'd have to offer a premium. this is another problem. so not only is our options low but we may not have a choice in the matter. Leafs at least did what they could with what little options they had. They had a solution which wasn't ideal but it was a solution. Better than doing nothing and riding on a pair of prospects praying they don't blow it.

 

[cyris]

it was. the leafs had very little options. Fleury refused to go to canada. So we had to choose from backups.

So Leafs ate cap, took murray (which came with picks) and that allows the leafs to hopefully function as a proper 1a/1b pairing... plus sheltering kallgren and woll (especially) because they're not ready for primetime. If murray goes down, then Leafs still have options. .. and that's what this front office does is try to layer that position.

Good goalies do not grow on trees and it seems people keep falsely assuming that there's an ed belfour or curtis joseph just ready and available to save us because there was one before. We got lucky in the early 2000s and since then we've had poor luck with prospects (except rask wtf jfj)

people really need to go look at what goalies were available because it was bad... especially in the price range we needed.

$4.6 million would get you a choice from:

Eric Comrie (unreliable)
Charlie Lindgren (unreliable)
Martin Jones (unreliable)
Ilya Samsonov (we got him)
Jaroslav Halak (old)
Calvin Pickard (unreliable)
Kevin Lankinen
Louis Domingue
Thomas Greiss (old)
------- everyone under this point earning less than a million -------
David Rittich (lol)
pheonix copley
aaron dell
dustin tokarski
cory schneider
zach sawchenko
antoine bibeau
it just gets so much worse from there

pretty much the free agency outside of Campbell (which we couldn't afford) and Kuemper (who we also couldn't afford) was a giant pile of ass. So Leafs just layered, got good potential at risk and decent potential at minimal risk and went from there.

There were reports that Flurey would have been open in coming to Toronto but ultimately it didn’t matter. He re-signed before he hit UFA.

 

[PromisedLand]

The way things are going, we might be sellers at the TDL and not buyers.

As long as there is a new GM calling the shot with new vision I am all for it

 

[Osmows OReilly]

it was. the leafs had very little options. Fleury refused to go to canada. So we had to choose from backups.

So Leafs ate cap, took murray (which came with picks) and that allows the leafs to hopefully function as a proper 1a/1b pairing... plus sheltering kallgren and woll (especially) because they're not ready for primetime. If murray goes down, then Leafs still have options. .. and that's what this front office does is try to layer that position.

Good goalies do not grow on trees and it seems people keep falsely assuming that there's an ed belfour or curtis joseph just ready and available to save us because there was one before. We got lucky in the early 2000s and since then we've had poor luck with prospects (except rask wtf jfj)

people really need to go look at what goalies were available because it was bad... especially in the price range we needed.

$4.6 million would get you a choice from:

Eric Comrie (unreliable)
Charlie Lindgren (unreliable)
Martin Jones (unreliable)
Ilya Samsonov (we got him)
Jaroslav Halak (old)
Calvin Pickard (unreliable)
Kevin Lankinen
Louis Domingue
Thomas Greiss (old)
------- everyone under this point earning less than a million -------
David Rittich (lol)
pheonix copley
aaron dell
dustin tokarski
cory schneider
zach sawchenko
antoine bibeau
it just gets so much worse from there

pretty much the free agency outside of Campbell (which we couldn't afford) and Kuemper (who we also couldn't afford) was a giant pile of ass. So Leafs just layered, got good potential at risk and decent potential at minimal risk and went from there.

I get what you mean but this is a team that’s supposed to be Cup contenders, how the hell is this ridiculous cap/LTIR gymnastics with unreliable goaltending supposed to get us through the playoffs? This is on Dubas for not finding/drafting good goaltending. It doesn’t help that he’s the reason we have no cap space.

 

[Anthrax442]

Holtby is free.