Post-Game Talk: Ughhhhhhh….Birds beat us

[Rozz]

I think what he is getting at is that if the playoffs lineups and schedule in 20/21 year was like normal years, the Habs would not have made the playoffs. It was special playoff series set by restrictions to regions due to COVID with Canadian teams only playing Canadian teams. That included additional teams like the Habs who did not make the regular playoffs cutoff.

oh I get what he's trying to say.. but you still had to win 16 grueling games against good teams to hoist the cup... we beat 3 very good teams to lose to a powerhouse in Tampa. nothing fake about that. covid season or not.

For me it began Jan. 18, 2022 when Hughes was hired. It’ll be 3 years in Jan. 2025.

exactly.

 

[ReHabs]

I think the fact we were extreme underdogs makes the run even better... but can't say I've seen anyone implying were some how fallen giants... the discussion here has been how long the current rebuild is along... and I stand by 3.5 years as that's what it is... everything before Hugo tool over is irrelevant.

but regardless of the regular season and the covid division etc.. the play offs were the play offs.. if Tampa won the stanley cup that year... they beat us in the finals to do it. period.

to state that that run was some how fake is purely false... there was nothing easier about the playoffs. we beat very good teams to reach the finals...what they did that year a amazing for us fans to watch... price and Weber literally gave everything they had left to make that push... some of your guys needs to "win some argument" doesn't change that... but again this all started over a discussion about how far along the rebuild is.. and it's 3.5 at most... 3 years if your count actual planed tank years.

You don’t need to relitigate the playoff run. We all remember it. No one’s taking away your memories. They’re yours safe and sound.

I was in Switzerland watching the finals at an ungodly hour and the beat down after two games was so bad I decided to give up watching my dear Habs play in the Stanley Cup Finals. Price sucked and we collapsed against Tampa. I never watched games 3-5. It was a mismatch. Our team earned its way through three rounds but was fraudulent at the same time somehow.

I don’t think they earned their spot in the playoffs.

Anyway, the point today is to acknowledge the trend: We were a bad team before that season, we were a bad team that season, we were a bad team after that season. We were not a competitive side that has disintegrated. We were never really competitive.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Dear Mr. Molson,

I will agree to attend your team's hockey games in exchange for a standard minimum wage salary. Cheering will cost extra.

Yours Truly,

Harry Kakalovich

 

[Sookind]

When Demidov arrive next year it won't be any better if he gets a headshot late in game with no answers like slaffy tonight. Only Arber protects his teammates or Josh against Wilson but it was the first time i see him protect someone.This is really a big problem, any teams that rebuilds must protect their young players.We don't do it, we don't have the players or the coachs to do it.
The fourth line is Heineman/Dvorak/Kapanen great energy line... I wouldn't be afraid to face them and hit their best players

 

[River Meadow]

He's no top 6 player let alone a center , dude cant play 200 foot hockey

I get it he had an important injury but the issues are his decisions and last time I checked he did not have a brain injury

It's super early in the year..

Let's wait and see before writing him off

 

[River Meadow]

When Demidov arrive next year it won't be any better if he gets a headshot late in game with no answers like slaffy tonight. Only Arber protects his teammates or Josh against Wilson but it was the first time i see him protect someone.This is really a big problem, any teams that rebuilds must protect their young players.We don't do it, we don't have the players or the coachs to do it.

Maybe Slaffy Taffy needs to realize he's 6ft3 220lbs and start being the bruiser instead of the bruisee.

That includes showing some more awareness out there. It's a tough league, it's not a finesse league.

 

[Sookind]

Maybe Slaffy Taffy needs to realize he's 6ft3 220lbs and start being the bruiser instead of the bruisee.

That includes showing some more awareness out there. It's a tough league, it's not a finesse league.

He's 20 and missed half a year, Yeah it's a tough league who doesn't protect their best players
but we are probably the softest team on the 3rd and 4th line and I won't talk about our defense

 

[Rozz]

You don’t need to relitigate the playoff run. We all remember it. No one’s taking away your memories. They’re yours safe and sound.

I was in Switzerland watching the finals at an ungodly hour and the beat down after two games was so bad I decided to give up watching my dear Habs play in the Stanley Cup Finals. Price sucked and we collapsed against Tampa. I never watched games 3-5. It was a mismatch. Our team earned its way through three rounds but was fraudulent at the same time somehow.

I don’t think they earned their spot in the playoffs.

Anyway, the point today is to acknowledge the trend: We were a bad team before that season, we were a bad team that season, we were a bad team after that season. We were not a competitive side that has disintegrated. We were never really competitive.

lol well thank you for the reassurance on my memories, i am glad they are still safely mine.

but again, this all started with a poster saying we're in year 27 of a rebuild, he was corrected that it's 3.5 years in, he then turned and used the old fall back of "we haven't been in the real playoffs for blah blah blah"... as if anything before hugo got here and officially declared a rebuild counts to make his point valid.. so, as some one who is tired of hearing that nonsense ...I pointed out that's not true.. we have been... and they were every bit as real as any other play offs... no matter how much it hurts ones argument. we have been and that's all.. no need to for people to get upset cause it ruins their negativity party lol

So, Id say the real point today, is to acknowledge the true length of the rebuild. which is 3.5 year at most. regardless of how many real playoff were were in in the bergevin era.

 

[River Meadow]

He's 20 and missed half a year, Yeah it's a tough league who doesn't protect their best players
but we are probably the softest team on the 3rd and 4th line and I won't talk about our defense

Habs are the one who decided he has to play in the NHL at all costs.

Remember when we were worried basically every game cause he kept getting hit in the head?

I'm not blaming this on him. I'm just saying.


And yeah, we're soft, and our GM decided to trade 1st and early 2nd for Mr. Newhook, a nice replacement for Drou-Drou.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Acciari is a major POS, too bad Xhekaj couldn't put his hands on him

 

[River Meadow]

lol well thank you for the reassurance on my memories, i am glad they are still safely mine.

but again, this all started with a poster saying we're in year 27 of a rebuild, he was corrected that it's 3.5 years in, he then turned and used the old fall back of "we haven't been in the real playoffs for blah blah blah"... ad if anything before hugo got here and officially declared a rebuild coubts to make his point valid.. so, as some one who is tured of hearing that nonsense ...I pointed out that's not true.. we have been... and they were every bit as real as any other play offs... no matter how much it hurts ones argument. we have been and that's all.. no need to for people to get upset cause it ruins their negativity party lol

So, Id say the real point today, is to acknowledge the true length of the rebuild. which is 3.5 year at most. regardless of how many real playoff were were in in the bergevin era.

Your memories are safe....... for now............


Say what you want about Bergevin, but he built quite a robust Defense for us..

Maybe we were too harsh on poor ol' Marc.......

Acciari is a major POS, too bad Xhekaj couldn't put his hands on him

Maybe we should hire a goon or something...

Xhekaj had had surgeries on both his shoulders already, not great.

 

[Rozz]

Your memories are safe....... for now............

oooo.. how wonderfully ominous! lol

 

[the]

Just bring Phil Kessel, atleast the team would be a bit more entertaining with him around.

 

[HuGort]

If Marty had started game with Dach on Suzuki line Habs gained two points tonight. In third period Montreal way better team. Those two games last weekend when Dach played with Suzuki, were our best games this year. Way better team. That line was on fire.

You can tell Dach can't drive the line. Can't win a faceoff. I don't know why Marty so determined to play him at center. It's killing the team

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

If Marty had started game with Dach on Suzuki line Habs gained two points tonight. In third period Montreal way better team. Those two games last weekend when Dach played with Suzuki, were our best games this year. Way better team. That line was on fire.

You can tell Dach can't drive the line. Can't win a faceoff. I don't know why Marty so determined to play him at center. It's killing the team

We also played Philadelphia that weekend.

 

[Pazucha]

This loss is on Marty.

You had a first line 13-14-20 where all the players were PPG and we were scoring goals but he had to break it up after 1 bad game..

And the reasoning was to make the "second line better".. Well now we got Anderson playing on the first line for half of the game and the second half of the game we have Dach and Gallgher on the first line.. Resulting in a 2nd line with Anderson - Newhook - Slaf ??????

Meanwhile Suzuki is playing one shift with Anderson then its Gallagher then its Dach..

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

i just go back to training camp and this staff didnt know how to handle what happened. They hid players, worried about injuries, etc

Players gained zero chemistry. No set defence pairings, forward lines were and still are a gong show

We all saw they werent ready to start the year

 

[salbutera]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852950257660805373

 

[Nicko999]

Still way too much garbage from Bozo left... Armia, Dvorak, Anderson, Gallagher.

A rebuild takes 5+ years, not sure why people expected we would be in the mix after 2 and a half years. Us overachieving the past 2 years skewed the perception of a lot of people. The progression is never linear, you take 2 steps forward, 1 step backwards.

 

[ReHabs]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852950257660805373

Until Arpon Basu does reporting and journalism, his punditry is beyond worthless.

 

[Zalos]

Another regulation time loss in the bag. We have to keep up with the Sharks.

James Hagens, we will draft you!

 

[Tyson]

So do you want him to say it?

"What do you want me say like, our team aint it gang, no cap, we are not lit at all, you feel me"

Tony Marinaro could send his kids through college with a quote like this from Marty

I should teach Chantal Machabee a few tricks

Where is the passion and effort from this team? No one seems to care other than a few players.

 

[OldCraig71]

Losing Monahan was the big blow to this team, we saw it after the TDL last season and they have looked the same to start this year. The young players clearly looked to him as a leader in the room.

Slaf continues to put himself in dangerous positions on the ice, not a fast learner that kid which will limit him from taking the next step.

With the exception being Caufield, ask yourself who else on the roster has taken big steps since MSL took over as coach?

I watched the Laval highlights and it is a stark contrast to what we are seeing from this group. No one is expecting a miracle but it's concerning to see our guys mailing it in on game 12.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Losing Monahan was the big blow to this team, we saw it after the TDL last season and they have looked the same to start this year. The young players clearly looked to him as a leader in the room.

Slaf continues to put himself in dangerous positions on the ice, not a fast learner that kid which will limit him from taking the next step.

With the exception being Caufield, ask yourself who else on the roster has taken big steps since MSL took over as coach?

I watched the Laval highlights and it is a stark contrast to what we are seeing from this group. No one is expecting a miracle but it's concerning to see our guys mailing it in on game 12.

Without a doubt Monahan was the biggest loss during this rebuild. When you look at any success we had the last two years, it was when he was relatively healthy and playing. They needed to try and find somebody to fill that void and they didn’t. Not that I blame them for getting walking away from the crazy money Monahan wanted and eventually got. Even if Laine is healthy, he won’t play the same leadership role somebody like Money played.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Dach isn’t a problem whatsoever but he’s rightfully expected to replace Monahan’s contribution and if he cannot show progress by the end of the season then he is useless to plan around going into the future (given his injury history) and we need to acquire a top6 C.

We already have that player. He's in the NCAA right now, giving Caufield-type vibes in his rookie season.