OT: UEFA EURO 2020 (2021)

[Bryanbryoil]

Rashford was so thrown off by Donnarumma that, even though he chose the right place to shoot for, just put a timid shot off the post. Sancho and Saka looked like they were put off by Rashford's miss. Pickford was the only one that kept it close.

Great penalty by Maguire in a losing effort.

 

[Oilhawks]

Southgate seems like a nice chap

Yes, he seems like he genuinely cares for his boys and bleeds for England.

Pickford was pretty heroic like you said too, it’s not on him.

I’ll add I feel bad for Saka, too young to have that much pressure.

 

[Cloned]

And here I thought Lampard and Gerrard missing their kicks was bad that one year, England somehow managed to outdo themselves on that front and bottle three penalties today.

 

[Cloned]

Yes, he seems like he genuinely cares for his boys and bleeds for England.

Pickford was pretty heroic like you said too, it’s not on him.

I’ll add I feel bad for Saka, too young to have that much pressure.

The critics are already out for Southgate's tactics and PK choices today though...

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I just think subbing guys in with two minutes left when they don't get a chance to get any touches and then expecting them to perform in a pressure packed penalty shootout is a bad idea.

Exactly what I told my wife. They came in cold, barely touched the ball and then are tossed into a pressure packed situation where you have to be perfect.

 

[oilers'72]

Sancho and Saka just took bad penalties. Mid height, not labelled for the corner. Easiest type of save to make for a GK as long as he reads/guesses the direction right.

No conviction in their shots. It may've been because of little time on the field. I don't know who else on the England team is capable of taking penalties if those 2 had to take them.

 

[Oilhawks]

The critics are already out for Southgate's tactics and PK choices today though...

Expected, even though I think he was one of the best in the tournament (if not the best).

Pitchforks will likely be out for Rashford as well

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

Glad the Leafs of Europe lost

 

[Cloned]

No conviction in their shots. It may've been because of little time on the field. I don't know who else on the England team is capable of taking penalties if those 2 had to take them.

I think it's a overrated skill. It's not supposed to be that hard to score a penalty in football. The net is freaking huge.

There are players who absolutely can't take them, but aside from those guys I don't think there's a huge difference between most players.

Remember once upon a time both Lampard and Gerrard missed penalties for England in the same shootout. And they were supposed to be good penalty takers.

 

[oilers'72]

Southgate taking the blame himself on Saka taking the penalty. BTW, I hate hearing the English broadcasters starting use the American term "penalty shootout". It's like when some used the term "pressurized" instead of pressured. The only place I saw pressurized was in a Wetaskiwin convenience store to describe how they cooked their fried chicken.

 

[Cloned]

Expected, even though I think he was one of the best in the tournament (if not the best).

Pitchforks will likely be out for Rashford as well

I think he had a bad coaching game today but was otherwise solid. Much better than guys like Hodgson and SGE.

Rashford, Martial and Werner. I wonder who out of the three actually fulfills their potential?

 

[Oilhawks]

I think he had a bad coaching game today but was otherwise solid. Much better than guys like Hodgson and SGE.

Rashford, Martial and Werner. I wonder who out of the three actually fulfills their potential?

Fair, though I think the penalties made him look worse than he would have otherwise. England had poor possession but I don’t feel that was on him

I’ve already given up on Werner lol

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I think it's a overrated skill. It's not supposed to be that hard to score a penalty in football. The net is freaking huge.

There are players who absolutely can't take them, but aside from those guys I don't think there's a huge difference between most players.

Remember once upon a time both Lampard and Gerrard missed penalties for England in the same shootout. And they were supposed to be good penalty takers.

You need to be able to hit the ball with pace and accuracy, adjust in a split second if the goalie is guessing the side that you are shooting at, etc. It is not the hardest thing to do, but it's not an uncontested layup or empty net goal or anything.

 

[Cloned]

Fair, though I think the penalties made him look worse than he would have otherwise. England had poor possession but I don’t feel that was on him

I’ve already given up on Werner lol

Southgate probably cost England the game today unfortunately. It's a shame because otherwise he had a good tournament.

At least Sterling stepped up though. Turned around his reputation a bit.

 

[oilers'72]

Roy Keane was mentioning that Sterling and Grealish may've been wondering why Saka got in before them. The discussion went as to maybe why that happened.

 

[Cloned]

You need to be able to hit the ball with pace and accuracy, adjust in a split second if the goalie is guessing the side that you are shooting at, etc. It is not the hardest thing to do, but it's not an uncontested layup or empty net goal or anything.

Good takers miss them, supposed average takers make them. My point was more that you shouldn't really make late subs to bring in completely cold players just because they're supposedly better at penalties than some of the players already in the game. The difference isn't that significant.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Good takers miss them, supposed average takers make them. My point was more that you shouldn't really make late subs to bring in completely cold players just because they're supposedly better at penalties than some of the players already in the game. The difference isn't that significant.

The one sub beat Donnarumma clean but hit the post and out. That is flat out unlucky. Some of the other penalties were garbage.

 

[oilers'72]

Kane taking the loss in stride and not putting the 3 who missed under the bus. He said the loss hurts but the team has to move on and work towards the World Cup. He said there's lots of good young players on the team. All positive comments. The best type of leader. Never get too high or too low.

 

[LaGu]

Good times.

Edit: amazing times

 

[Drivesaitl]

Think both Sancho and Saka were odd choices. I know that statistically young players have converted more often than older guys in big championship games but Sancho had barely touched the ball and a 19 yo as the fifth shooter feels rough.

Rashford hits post, Sancho awful shot, easy save, Saka awful shot, easy save.

These were bad kick decisions. Pickford had to do more on either of his two stops and still lost.

Glad Italy won but a had a lot to do with who England picked for kicks. 2/5 lol. Least Kane and Maguire were predictably solid.

 

[Cloned]

The one sub beat Donnarumma clean but hit the post and out. That is flat out unlucky. Some of the other penalties were garbage.

That's the other thing though. How much of penalties is luck? I still think the skill is overrated. There are players who can't take them at all, but by and large most football players at that level are all roughly equally likely to score or miss a penalty.

Unless you bring in cold players right at the end of ET, or put a 19 year old as the 5th taker.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Good times.

Edit: amazing times

England loses, world happy.

Thank you Italy for making it 55yrs and counting for England. STILL counting.

 

[Cloned]

If I had told you before the game that Shaw would score 2 minutes in, Pickford would stop 2 penalties, and Kane would make a penalty, who would've thought England would still lose?

 

[Drivesaitl]

The one sub beat Donnarumma clean but hit the post and out. That is flat out unlucky. Some of the other penalties were garbage.

Gonna disagree here. He barely glanced post. Rashford missed the net, wide on a penalty kick. Thats a hall of shame lack of finish. A lot of guys will sail the ball over the bar, can happen if you hit the ball hard. Missing on a side foot, lol. Rashford was in his own head on that one and totally f***ed up.

 

[Cloned]

Rashford hits post, Sancho awful shot, easy save, Saka awful shot, easy save.

These were bad kick decisions. Pickford had to do more on either of his two stops and still lost.

Glad Italy won but a had a lot to do with who England picked for kicks. 2/5 lol. Least Kane and Maguire were predictably solid.

England find new ways to lose, like I said.

Italy bottles 2 penalties (Jorginho one was awful lol) and England says "hold my beer" and bottles 3. LMAO, you couldn't write this stuff any better.