Prospect Info: Tyler Boucher (RW/LW) - Don`t sleep on Tyler Boucher

[HSF]

He’d look really good on our 3PP unit now or as a shut down 4RW?

in the minors dominating and then coming up to bolster our stanley cup runs as other players price themselves out.

What is Boucher doing?

 

[Sweatred]

in the minors dominating and then coming up to bolster our stanley cup runs as other players price themselves out.

What is Boucher doing?

Silinger doesn’t project to play in our top 6 for at least 3 years after Giroux moves on … he’d be miscast as a checking bottom 6 player with this org likely never playing the role well.

A good checking forward is better than an unneeded scoring forward that needs to be repurposed into a defensive specalist. Nick Paul is infinitely more valuable to a team like ours than a Mike Hoffman / Silinger type.

This team is desperately short on players who physically battle. As constructed they get run out of the building in the playoffs. 100 light body checks a game aren’t worth 2-3 heavy checks and we simply don’t have the top 9 players who can execute that type of play beyond Brady.

No one on defence is intimidating.

 

[HSF]

Silinger doesn’t project to play in our top 6 for at least 3 years after Giroux moves on … he’d be miscast as a checking bottom 6 player with this org likely never playing the role well.

A good checking forward is better than an unneeded scoring forward that needs to be repurposed into a defensive specalist. Nick Paul is infinitely more valuable to a team like ours than a Mike Hoffman / Silinger type.

Trade Sillinger for Crouse who is a superior version of Boucher if you really want to .

Trade Sillinger for Chychrun to fix our defense?


I mean there are a million better options with having Sillinger in the fold then what we saw from Boucher

 

[Sweatred]

Trade Sillinger for Crouse who is a superior version of Boucher if you really want to .

Trade Sillinger for Chychrun to fix our defense?


I mean there are a million better options with having Sillinger in the fold then what we saw from Boucher

Possible - anyway, I like what Boucher offers to our 2-4 line. I think he’ll get there.

We’ll see it this fall - teams are going to run at Sandy, Brann and Stutzles entire line and we don’t have anyone to really respond other than Brady’s bruised knuckles.

 

[God Says No]

BPA is defined differently by different people -

For sure. But it's pretty obvious and universal that in terms BPA in this case:

Sillinger >>> Boucher

Maybe in 3 years it will only be one greater than, or maybe it will stay as is now. The point is, your arguments and strategy are illogical.

 

[Icelevel]

Holy sh**
Guys, live your life. Forget this at least till we see him in a senators jersey.

 

[God Says No]

Holy sh**
Guys, live your life. Forget this at least till we see him in a senators jersey.

Why? It's fun to speculate and debate. This is one of the main features of a board like this.

 

[alfstheman]

just don't see where he fits into the team he was drafted way higher then he should of been also.

I mean our top 6 is kinda set now (potentially for 3 years if decat resigns).

Imo he fits perfectly as we need intense hard hitting low paid guys in the bottom 6. Obviously I would like more pts from him but he is 1 year in... trading boucher now would be trading low.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Trade Sillinger for Crouse who is a superior version of Boucher if you really want to .

Trade Sillinger for Chychrun to fix our defense?


I mean there are a million better options with having Sillinger in the fold then what we saw from Boucher

Sounds like we could trade Boucher for Pesce 1 for 1 to me.

 

[OD99]

Silinger doesn’t project to play in our top 6 for at least 3 years after Giroux moves on … he’d be miscast as a checking bottom 6 player with this org likely never playing the role well.

A good checking forward is better than an unneeded scoring forward that needs to be repurposed into a defensive specalist. Nick Paul is infinitely more valuable to a team like ours than a Mike Hoffman / Silinger type.

This team is desperately short on players who physically battle. As constructed they get run out of the building in the playoffs. 100 light body checks a game aren’t worth 2-3 heavy checks and we simply don’t have the top 9 players who can execute that type of play beyond Brady.

No one on defence is intimidating.

Since when is Boucher a checking forward and defensive specialist?

He needs to score some goals and probably learn to fight if he is hoping to be on the ice in the NHL.

He also wouldn't be on the ice when our top players are so the (misguided IMO) theory that all of our scorers get targeted to the detriment of their games still doesn't allow for him to, "protect" them.

All that said I very much hope that his training/living with Sandy and Greig has a positive impact to allow him to have a dominant season with the 67's and he completely proves me wrong.

 

[kellmuff96]

I think we can all agree he shouldnt have been drafted 10th overall but that doesnt mean he cant/wont be a good NHLer. He has a unique skillset that I think translates well to playoff hockey. It's up to him now to do the work necessary to get to the pro game and make an impact. He'll have plenty of good young American kids to look up to/learn from over the next couple seasons.

Rooting for him. If we end up with Tom Wilson-lite it'll be terrific

 

[99ovr]

Trade Sillinger for Crouse who is a superior version of Boucher if you really want to .

Trade Sillinger for Chychrun to fix our defense?


I mean there are a million better options with having Sillinger in the fold then what we saw from Boucher

Crouse is not remotely close to being a superior version of Boucher if he hits his potential. Boucher's skill and hockey IQ is much higher, Crouse is the bigger body but that's pretty much it.

 

[Micklebot]

Crouse is not remotely close to being a superior version of Boucher if he hits his potential. Boucher's skill and hockey IQ is much higher, Crouse is the bigger body but that's pretty much it.

If Boucher's hockey IQ is great, his skills are great and his tools are great why did he struggle so much to produce in college and the OHL?

 

[BondraTime]

If Boucher ever turns out like Crouse was this past season, I think all involved with the Sens will be thrilled.

Huge, physical ~25 goal ~45 point guy that can skate like the wind. Not sure what people are expecting, but that’s an incredible outcome with Boucher.

It’s just not realistic saying that Crouse is just a bigger body, it’s plain ignorance.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Crouse is not remotely close to being a superior version of Boucher if he hits his potential. Boucher's skill and hockey IQ is much higher, Crouse is the bigger body but that's pretty much it.

You should start and sell memberships to a Tyler Boucher fan club.. I am sure you'd get a few subscribers.
Saying his skill and IQ are much higher would play better in the fan club news letters.

Waiting patiently foe someone else to chime in with can I prove that it is not higher. If that person does do that I would offer him a job on the fan club executive.

 

[99ovr]

If Boucher's hockey IQ is great, his skills are great and his tools are great why did he struggle so much to produce in college and the OHL?

You should start and sell memberships to a Tyler Boucher fan club.. I am sure you'd get a few subscribers.
Saying his skill and IQ are much higher would play better in the fan club news letters.

Waiting patiently foe someone else to chime in with can I prove that it is not higher. If that person does do that I would offer him a job on the fan club executive.

We'll revisit this by the end of the season and we'll see then. We'll get a sneak peek at the WJC this August but last year is not at all a representation of who he truly is as a player. Believe me if I thought he sucks as much as everyone else here thinks he does I'd say the same thing but if you watch him play the tools and toolbox are there.

 

[Micklebot]

We'll revisit this by the end of the season and we'll see then. We'll get a sneak peek at the WJC this August but last year is not at all a representation of who he truly is as a player. Believe me if I thought he sucks as much as everyone else here thinks he does I'd say the same thing but if you watch him play the tools and toolbox are there.

So no answer other than "you just wait and see"? Not particularly compelling.

I've watched him play this past season and before, there's a lot of good tools, I have hope that he'll be an effective middle 6 guy if everything works out, but I'm not about to make claims that he's better in every way but size than an established pro like Crouse, there's a middle ground between hopeless pessimism and drinking the Kool aid while wearing rose coloured glasses.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

F*** Rogers, you're the GOAT brother

I was still able to create a new highlight video of him though. There were enough 67's clips from other sources for me to include quite a number of them. Here is the new video.

 

[Sun God Nika]

looking the prospect rankings look like a lot of people are sleeping on him.

 

[God Says No]

looking the prospect rankings look like a lot of people are sleeping on him.

Have we? He hasn't really done anything except look good in scrimmages and drills. He always had good individual tools, but couldn't put it together. Let's see how he looks like next year at this time.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

looking the prospect rankings look like a lot of people are sleeping on him.

Well he hasn't exactly done anything to warrant a higher ranking. Doesn't mean he can't turn it around, but so far he hasn't done anything more impressive than an average 4th or 5th rounder.

 

[Sting]

looking the prospect rankings look like a lot of people are sleeping on him.

I think people are sleeping on Greig and Pinto a lot more than Boucher. Boucher has done nothing to warrant being included in the top 100 NHL prospects on any list. He can get there though.

Greig, meanwhile, wasn't that far off from being the point leader in the WHL assuming he played a full season, and rarely gets much respect.

 

[playasRus]

I think people are sleeping on Greig and Pinto a lot more than Boucher. Boucher has done nothing to warrant being included in the top 100 NHL prospects on any list. He can get there though.

Greig, meanwhile, wasn't that far off from being the point leader in the WHL assuming he played a full season, and rarely gets much respect.

Pinto to me has graduated from prospect pool as a lock for the roster last season and this season.

Greig is considered our best F prospect outside of Pinto so don't think he's under-rated in any way - he's always regarded as untouchable in trades. He's like our new Lazar

Boucher is definitely slept on as he's about to be ranked likely around 8-9th in our pool behind a couple 2nd round picks, ironically where he was projected to be picked...

That's quite eye opening considering these rankings usually weight heavily on draft position e.g. Logan Brown was in our top 5-10 for the longest time even after bust had been on the table for him for a couple years. Even Pronman had him as our #2 prospect in 2018, in his D+3 year - ahead of Formenton, Batherson. By his D+4 year we still had him ahead of Pinto/Formenton, but probably just wishful thinking that we haden't wasted an 11OA pick, wih Silver Sens considering him in the same tier prospect as Batherson. Even this board desperately clung to him being our future #1C in 2019 ranking him 3rd, and then in 2020 4th ahead of Formenton/Pinto/ Thomson/Zub/Sogaard, so it was'nt like we were shallow in our prospect pool.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Pinto to me has graduated from prospect pool as a lock for the roster last season and this season.

Greig is considered our best F prospect outside of Pinto so don't think he's under-rated in any way - he's always regarded as untouchable in trades. He's like our new Lazar

Boucher is definitely slept on as he's about to be ranked likely around 8-9th in our pool behind a couple 2nd round picks, ironically where he was projected to be picked...

That's quite eye opening considering these rankings usually weight heavily on draft position e.g. Logan Brown was in our top 5-10 for the longest time even after bust had been on the table for him for a couple years. Even Pronman had him as our #2 prospect in 2018, in his D+3 year - ahead of Formenton, Batherson. By his D+4 year we still had him ahead of Pinto/Formenton, but probably just wishful thinking that we haden't wasted an 11OA pick, wih Silver Sens considering him in the same tier prospect as Batherson. Even this board desperately clung to him being our future #1C in 2019 ranking him 3rd, and then in 2020 4th ahead of Formenton/Pinto/ Thomson/Zub/Sogaard, so it was'nt like we were shallow in our prospect pool.

People were high on Brown for longer because he clearly had a high end skill set and tools, It was just that injuries f***ed his development up. Same with guys like Cowen and Weircioch who were decent at first and tanked after their injuries. These guys had actually done things for people to be high on them.

Boucher on the other hand has really done nothing to bolster his stock so far.

 

[Pinto Bean]

Boucher is a good interview, seems like a good kid, is a good drills player, and has a lot of traits going for him but the season he just put up in his D+1 season should garner a far lower rating on our prospect rankings then even 7-8. He should be out of the top 10 at this point quite frankly.