Tyler Biggs

[Tak7]

Jeffler is close with the Marlies, and has pointed out on a few occasions that Biggs hasn't even cracked the lineup and is a healthy scratch.

Have to admit - it does sound concerning, but let's be patient; no point in rushing the kid

 

[The Winter Soldier]

KyleTheReporter is a pretty good guy to follow for coverage of the Marlies and he just wrote an article the other day with a couple good quotes on Biggs from Spott.




That's about it on Biggs but he there's a few other good tidbits in the article. anyways, here's the full article
http://kylethereporter.com/2014/04/...s-goalies-doing-shuffle-until-further-notice/

Playing with Trevor Smith and Josh Leivo, we will get a good read on Biggs. A goal to start is a positive.

Again Tyler can skate, shoot, hit, fight. He's got all the tools, he just needs to assert himself.

One thing I want more out of him is to play a lot meaner, and to be more intimidating out there. Not many players can match his strength. If he does this I have no doubt he will be in the NHL.

 

[Mess]

KyleTheReporter is a pretty good guy to follow for coverage of the Marlies and he just wrote an article the other day with a couple good quotes on Biggs from Spott.

That's about it on Biggs but he there's a few other good tidbits in the article. anyways, here's the full article
http://kylethereporter.com/2014/04/...s-goalies-doing-shuffle-until-further-notice/

Good article but this line brought a tear to my eye

Despite being drafted so high, Biggs has been projected by Leaf management as a bottom-six “energy guy” who can contribute on the penalty kill.

Toronto traded a 1st (30th) and 2nd (39th) to move up to draft a bottom 6 energy & PK player. This while other teams are drafting Boone Jenner or Brandon Saad in the 2nd round.

Couldn't Jerry D'Amigo or Leo Komarov do that job and/or how hard would it be to find a bottom 6 energy player without using high draft picks to acquire them?.

 

[JEI]

Jeffler is close with the Marlies, and has pointed out on a few occasions that Biggs hasn't even cracked the lineup and is a healthy scratch.

Have to admit - it does sound concerning, but let's be patient; no point in rushing the kid

I think it's more because he's a checking role/depth guy for the team. I'm sure sometimes it was because he needed a kick in the pants, but I think his role with the team makes him an interchangeable part. Now, is that what you want from a former 1st round pick..to be an interchangeable part? Likely not. But, let's not forget this Marlies team isn't an easy team to crack. They are the tops in their division, third in conference, fifth in the league.

I'm interested to see what role he takes next year. Problem with Biggs is that unless some coach likes what he brings to the table in a top-six role, he's unlikely to play in one (at least with the Marlies). He would have to hope names like D'Amigo and Ashton takes permanent roles with the Leafs. Not only that, compete with any newcomers that join the ranks (Brown? Herzog? Rupert? UFAs?).

Personally, I don't think Biggs is an important part for Spott (right now). Think he see more value in other bottom-six types like Carrick, Ryan, and Broll filling a top-six spot rather than Biggs. That's just the impression I get from watching how he uses those players. I don't find Biggs to be a confident player either (heard a few times how hard he is on himself - maybe that's a factor). For me, it's been a flaw of his for a while. He shows glimpses of being a threat, but at the same time can look allergic to the puck. It's kind of a tease. Good news for him is that if he never puts it together offensively he has other translatable skills that could make him useful. One summer of proper training and preparation and you never know what type of turn his career could take..I just wouldn't anticipate/expect a 180 from his current development path.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I think it's more because he's a checking role/depth guy for the team. I'm sure sometimes it was because he needed a kick in the pants, but I think his role with the team makes him an interchangeable part. Now, is that what you want from a former 1st round pick..to be an interchangeable part? Likely not. But, let's not forget this Marlies team isn't an easy team to crack. They are the tops in their division, third in conference, fifth in the league.

I'm interested to see what role he takes next year. Problem with Biggs is that unless some coach likes what he brings to the table in a top-six role, he's unlikely to play in one (at least with the Marlies). He would have to hope names like D'Amigo and Ashton takes permanent roles with the Leafs. Not only that, compete with any newcomers that join the ranks (Brown? Herzog? Rupert? UFAs?).

Personally, I don't think Biggs is an important part for Spott (right now). Think he see more value in other bottom-six types like Carrick, Ryan, and Broll filling a top-six spot rather than Biggs. That's just the impression I get from watching how he uses those players. I don't find Biggs to be a confident player either (heard a few times how hard he is on himself - maybe that's a factor). For me, it's been a flaw of his for a while. He shows glimpses of being a threat, but at the same time can look allergic to the puck. It's kind of a tease. Good news for him is that if he never puts it together offensively he has other translatable skills that could make him useful. One summer of proper training and preparation and you never know what type of turn his career could take..I just wouldn't anticipate/expect a 180 from his current development path.

Good informative post.

I agree about the part of confidence, once Biggs gets some, and starts asserting himself, he can be quite a player. He doesn't use his size and strength nearly as much if he wants to be in the NHL one day. That's one area he can control, and I would be shocked if he wasn't told this by coaches. This is my main beef with him. Other than that, he is a good kid, character is not going to be a problem with him.

 

[bursilym]

this guy sucks. Me and a lot of people were shocked when we moved up to pick this trash 4th liner potential guy

 

[Team First]

I just logged on to say all these posts (except the last one...) were exactly why I joined HF boards . Smart, hockey knowledgable people ,who can rationally discuss hockey without it becoming a big pissing contest like the comments on ANY TSN article.

 

[WhatASaveDave]

Tyler Biggs will be NHL ready by the start of the 2017 season. Tyler Biggs will probably develop into a 4th line Grinder, a player who can fight, block shots and kill penalties

 

[Mess]

Tyler Biggs will be NHL ready by the start of the 2017 season. Tyler Biggs will probably develop into a 4th line Grinder, a player who can fight, block shots and kill penalties

So if everything goes right then Tyler Biggs will become Troy Bodie in 3 years.

 

[WhatASaveDave]

So if everything goes right then Tyler Biggs will become Troy Bodie in 3 years.

Troy Bodie who pks

 

[johnny_rudeboy]

Detroit who gets a lot of praise for their picks (rightfully so) picked Riley Sheahan @ #21 in 2010.
He is playing with DRW this season, but he is 2 years older then Biggs, and if it was not for injuries he would probably been playing in the AHL this season.

Montreal who also gets praise for their scouting picked Max Pacioretty @ #22 in 2007.
And yeah, Pacioretty are a really good player today and have been so for a couple of seasons but he is also 5 years older. He did not have that impressive numbers before he broke out.

Last years draft they picked Michael McCarron @ #25

Boston picked Jordan Caron @ #25 in 2009.

Rangers picked Chris Kreider @ #19 in 2009.

Vancouver picked Brendan Gaunce @ #26 in 2012


This is just after having a quick look at some of the more recent drafts. So picking a big forward with power forward potential is not really uncommon with a pick around the 20´s. And Biggs represent a type of player we needed in the system, among many thing but one pick at the time. He might become only a 4th liner but it is still to early to tell. He can surprise us once he puts things together and become an effective physical top six forward. Most likely he will become a good defensive 3rd liner who hits, fights and can score relative to his role. I am glad we picked him.

 

[Tyler Biggs*]

He was projected to be a first round pick. His offence was the question though, so he was supposed to be a late round guy based on his physicality and two-way game.

He's not going to be a big scorer. But with some seasoning he could still be a decent checking line guy.

 

[highslot]

one thing's for sure, i a year or two, he'd still be a better option than orr. although so will broll and probably devane.

 

[Dayjobdave]

one thing's for sure, i a year or two, he'd still be a better option than orr. although so will broll and probably devane.

Maybe with all 3 we'll actually have the kind of team that Randy wants to coach

 

[rrc1967]

Good article but this line brought a tear to my eye



Toronto traded a 1st (30th) and 2nd (39th) to move up to draft a bottom 6 energy & PK player. This while other teams are drafting Boone Jenner or Brandon Saad in the 2nd round.

I just would have rather had Gibson who the ducks picked up with our #39th, who at the age of 20 was a top netminder in the AHL, and already tasted the NHL.

if he just amounts to a 3/4th energy guy - then that's a waste of two top 40 picks by a wide margin.

you can pick up energy guys from free agency for a dime a dozen or even the waiver wire if you are really desperate.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Morrison pressured Burke.

Detroit leaked out that they wanted Biggs, Morrison jumped Burke who thought he had the next Lucic and once again we got suckered. He was not a first rounder and cost us a 2nd rounder we actually need. This guy is a 4th liner not a first round pick. When you factor in many were surprised Saad ,yet lone Jenner, dropped to our slot, well can you say boondoggle. We would have taken Percy which is fine and had 2 seconds instead we get 6 years of waiting for a 4th line energy guy. I wonder who Detroit wants Morrison to pick this year? From what I see this staff doesn't do its homework until the later rounds.

Ross, K Ryan, Biggs , Devane, Blacker.Not to mention a second thrown to Boston.. ouch.
Biggs embodies why our prospects at forward well, suck! A 3rd liner tops by 2017.If it wasn't for our Euro scouts, Morrison would be fired.

 

[Rielly4]

Biggs need to step up his desire.. Once he realizes hes not entitled and starts to work harder he will be a really good 3rd liner..

He can shoot and skate he just needs the desire to forecheck and create offense... Hes too calm out there, he needs to play with more of a chip on his shoulder like Ashton.

It will come.

Ross Ashton and Biggs are all really nice bottom 6 winger prospects.

 

[Stephen]

Who in their right mind would develop a first rounder for six years just to have a third or fourth line energy guy? Those kinds of players are so plentiful you can find quality grinders anywhere at any price range and age group. If I were the GM I'd have a conversation with my scouts.

 

[sda]

Who in their right mind would develop a first rounder for six years just to have a third or fourth line energy guy? Those kinds of players are so plentiful you can find quality grinders anywhere at any price range and age group. If I were the GM I'd have a conversation with my scouts.

The problem is that Biggs was drafted because the gm at the time wanted more size and valued this over skill. Biggs was a result of a conversation with the scouts

 

[HellasLEAF]

yet another player we picked partly because of character.

his leadership qualities were part of the reason.

also our lack of power forward type players is another reason he was selected.

bottom line, this doesn't sound like the BPA at that pick, it was the Leafs drafted because of organizational needs.

 

[Durkin67]

yet another player we picked partly because of character.

his leadership qualities were part of the reason.

also our lack of power forward type players is another reason he was selected.

bottom line, this doesn't sound like the BPA at that pick, it was the Leafs drafted because of organizational needs.

Apparently DET was looking to snipe him and Burkie got the jump on them. big tough American kid with all the raw tools to play a physical semi skill game... I think the jury is out on him until after training camp in the Fall...

 

[Stephen]

The problem is that Biggs was drafted because the gm at the time wanted more size and valued this over skill. Biggs was a result of a conversation with the scouts

There's a high degree of organizational stupidity in Toronto where we've favored big ogre-like players for years. Schenn, Biggs, a big chunk of the 2009 draft class, etc. Just draft big bodies and hope for the best.

 

[Stephen]

Apparently DET was looking to snipe him and Burkie got the jump on them. big tough American kid with all the raw tools to play a physical semi skill game... I think the jury is out on him until after training camp in the Fall...

You never see Burkie getting the jump on Detroit when it comes to Nyqvist, Tatar, Sproul and other legitimate prospects...

 

[smitty10]

I think Biggs will end up being a good, tough 3rd liner for us. With little more intensity I think he can develop into an important piece of this team. He won't be a top 6 scorer, but to anyone writing him off, take a look at Antoine Roussel's stats from his initial season in the AHL and see where he is now. Let's hope for the best!

 

[Durrr]

I think Biggs will end up being a good, tough 3rd liner for us. With little more intensity I think he can develop into an important piece of this team. He won't be a top 6 scorer, but to anyone writing him off, take a look at Antoine Roussel's stats from his initial season in the AHL and see where he is now. Let's hope for the best!

Wasn't he scratched tonight in the AHL lol?