Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part III - MOD WARNING 671
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I don't understand. How does league-wide talent dilution make it easier for any one team to win a cup?
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ODAAT
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I try to envision what this team would look like without him, with those they listed as top goalies firmly planted with their organizations and I cringe especially what`s in the B`s system at this stage of their development
I have been hard on him at times but I also recognize, especially the first half of this year and some important games down the stretch, this guy stole more points than he gave away for this team
I have been hard on him at times but I also recognize, especially the first half of this year and some important games down the stretch, this guy stole more points than he gave away for this team
northeastern
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Tuukka has never been able to handle these ultra high work load seasons. Price struggled at it as well down the stretch. Even Butch has commented that price was over played when he took control.
A better course of action would have been to manage the backups better. Dobby played well down the stretch and I don't know why he sucked under CJ but tuukka should have been rested more.
ODAAT
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I think if the back ups actually stopped a few pucks from the beginning of the year that would have been the plan
ReggieMoto
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This is why I'd like to hear more about why Dan thinks Julien could have done something else regarding Rask, unless he's talking about bringing Rask up post-TT. If he's talking about the start of this season, I'm not clear on what could have been done since ALL of the backups were performing very poorly.
LSCII
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Not that I'm speaking for Dan, but Julien shielded the crap out of Rask the year before the won a cup, which was also the same year Rask took over the job from Thomas. Obviously Thomas came back the following year to lead them to a cup, but the way Julien used Rask in 09-10 gave Chia confidence to try and move Thomas that off season. The ability to play Rask in favorable situations only certainly went away once Thomas was gone and Rask was the clear cut number one.
Donnie Shulzhoffer
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This thread has now won the all time award of posting about others and not the player.
Gee Wally...my sympathies.
Gee Wally...my sympathies.
Just a little something to give thought to when drawing conclusions about when a player looks at another player......but in actuality has this to say:
“He’s solid,†goaltender Tuukka Rask said of McAvoy. “He can move the puck. He can skate. Has made some really nice defensive plays I’ve noticed. It’s not easy when you come straight out of college, have to play a playoff game and log a lot of minutes, and he’s stepped up and carried us.â€
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...ns-injuries/Fz32p64TfGxQzNyE2weYfL/story.html
“He’s solid,†goaltender Tuukka Rask said of McAvoy. “He can move the puck. He can skate. Has made some really nice defensive plays I’ve noticed. It’s not easy when you come straight out of college, have to play a playoff game and log a lot of minutes, and he’s stepped up and carried us.â€
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...ns-injuries/Fz32p64TfGxQzNyE2weYfL/story.html
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Well I'm usually really good at reading body language in real life and hockey as far as I know is real life so what gives. Tuukka's body language often says the same thing when a a bad goal is scored. He looks at a given player or shrugs his shoulders as to say WTF are you doing. I can't count the times I have seen him do that even if I use both hands and my feet.
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RedeyeRocketeer
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I think this is the game he's got to steal. Bridge us to game 4 and maybe a few bodies back. Has to be a perfect game today.
LouJersey
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He does it quite often. I kinda think it's just a habit. He's not a great goalie on screens as it is. I don't mind the stare, it's the state and the arm shrugging that gets me (which he hasn't done in a long time)
there is no denying Rask can be a tremendous goaltender at times, and I feel sometimes he just get lazy in the net and doesn't work hard. This is what is frustrating about him.
Game 1:
-fighting through screen to see the puck
- rebound control was great (this is one of his weaknesses IMO)
- position was great, was working hard to be square to every shot.
Game 2:
- not fighting through screens and too deep in his net (wideman goal)
- rebound control (ultimately led to phaneuf goal)
- not square to the shooters
A lot of it with Rask when I watch is his compete level it can be low at times. The other is I wonder if the moment gets to big for him and butterfly's creep in.
I have wanted this guy gone for a long time as i still don't believe you can win with him at the 7 million price tag. That being said I would like a consistent effort from this guy.
I also want to point out when he and the team went on that run near the end I truly felt he played well,but was not tested all that much as the team played really good in front of him.
If we're going to win this serious he needs to steal it..
As I have stated since day 1 I hope he proves me wrong!!
Game 1:
-fighting through screen to see the puck
- rebound control was great (this is one of his weaknesses IMO)
- position was great, was working hard to be square to every shot.
Game 2:
- not fighting through screens and too deep in his net (wideman goal)
- rebound control (ultimately led to phaneuf goal)
- not square to the shooters
A lot of it with Rask when I watch is his compete level it can be low at times. The other is I wonder if the moment gets to big for him and butterfly's creep in.
I have wanted this guy gone for a long time as i still don't believe you can win with him at the 7 million price tag. That being said I would like a consistent effort from this guy.
I also want to point out when he and the team went on that run near the end I truly felt he played well,but was not tested all that much as the team played really good in front of him.
If we're going to win this serious he needs to steal it..
As I have stated since day 1 I hope he proves me wrong!!
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He hasn't been the problem in this series. Cmon people. That calapse was the team in front of him. There are plenty of things to complain about, Rask isn't one. Coverage is a big issue with the lower lines. Guys are laying back and giving Ottawa to much room, where as Ottawa is on them immediately as soon as the puck is on the Bruins stick.
As soon as we lose a game this thread gains 5 pages, after a win it gains one or two. It's sad but for whatever reason some people seem to be actively rooting against him. He certainly has to be better than he was in game 2, but the amount of blame he's getting is pretty ridiculous.
Greek_physique
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Does anyone know what his record is after losing a game in the playoffs?
I remember the year we went to the Finals he had a pretty great record after losing a game.
I remember the year we went to the Finals he had a pretty great record after losing a game.
Did a quick check for you, by my count he's 11-7, however that record is a bit skewed by their series against Philly that they blew the 3-0 lead, and where they lost 3 straight against the Hawks. He's been pretty good coming off the loss in the playoffs for the most part. Coming off a loss in games that he won he's averaged two goals against.
Bruinfanatic
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Always going to get more posting after a big loss,after a win a lot of people make there yes Bruins rocked tonight ,Rask or who ever was great,than there off to do whatever there going to do,party go to bed whatever.After a big loss some times *****in helps get the loss out of there system.I can be asleep in 5 min after a big win ,takes a lot longer after a big loss that's for sure.
I think that's a fair assessment/reasoning actually. I know I'm pretty fired up in a bad way after a big loss.
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