Why would the Kings downgrade their player?
Value of: Turcotte to NYR
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Why would the Kings downgrade their player?
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Rangers will not be moving Lindgren for Villardi. And they certainly won't be moving Lindgren so they can showcase Hajek for a potential trade. Lindgren is playing LD w/ Fox, used between 18 and 21 minutes a game with no powerplay time included to bump the time on ice. He's 23 years old and we just extended him. Rangers won't trade him for Villardi, so we can avoid going down that hill.
GreatSaveEssensa
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Any GM trading a star player for depth should no longer be a GM
Perennial
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at least I am honest about my strategy for NY to keep bluest blue chips unless/until they have a surplus.
Your side continues to press for better guys and in return offers Madden.
Which is your right.
But then don't be hypocritical and pretend it is not what it is.
No it makes zero sense
Kakko not going anywhere
And NY is better off not overpaying for Turcotte, even if you agree he is worth that and even if you think LA considers moving him, which they do not.
We will wait to manage the Kravtsov situation to get full value by first getting him here, upping his game, and showcasing him.
We are not selling him cheap now.
Which brings me back to the highest LAK goes, maybe, is Villardi.
For NYR, I go Lindgren for Villardi. Again, someone w/time make a thread for that.
Agree overall.
Our perceived needs as stated are actually overblown. And that is them not listening to me and trying Kravtsov at C.
Consider:
Zib is now locked up, with nmc. That's 1C
Chytil is fine at 2C
Strome we cannot afford is buh bye.
Several options, but I like Barron for 3C
and again several options Rooney/Blais = 4C
So if we repurpose someone into a good enough upside pivot we are good.
We don't need desperate gambles that deplete depth, eff up cap, etc.
No, pls see above.
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Obv, we don't do this just for Hajek and you know I didn't say that.
It is a happy byproduct of removing 1 D we can get Hajek, who we can't send down out of options, to work w/Fox. Up his game, showcase, deal Haj asap. Then we bring in Reunanen for the same and a fast exit.
THEN we bring in Jones.
I got nothing vs Lindy.
His devotees are forced to concede numbers don't lie. Robertson is his eventual heir, and Robby is bigger.
Jones is a stopgap.
Eventual D lineup after this season [hopefully]
Robertson - Fox
KAM - Schneider
Nemeth - Nils
numbers do not lie.
We should sell high on Lindy now and move Trouba sooner if he lets us so we have cap nec to extend Fox, pay LaF, Kakko
Groo
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No it makes zero sense
Kakko not going anywhere
And NY is better off not overpaying for Turcotte, even if you agree he is worth that and even if you think LA considers moving him, which they do not.
We will wait to manage the Kravtsov situation to get full value by first getting him here, upping his game, and showcasing him.
We are not selling him cheap now.
Which brings me back to the highest LAK goes, maybe, is Villardi.
For NYR, I go Lindgren for Villardi. Again, someone w/time make a thread for that.
Agree overall.
Our perceived needs as stated are actually overblown. And that is them not listening to me and trying Kravtsov at C.
Consider:
Zib is now locked up, with nmc. That's 1C
Chytil is fine at 2C
Strome we cannot afford is buh bye.
Several options, but I like Barron for 3C
and again several options Rooney/Blais = 4C
So if we repurpose someone into a good enough upside pivot we are good.
We don't need desperate gambles that deplete depth, eff up cap, etc.
No, pls see above.
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Obv, we don't do this just for Hajek and you know I didn't say that.
It is a happy byproduct of removing 1 D we can get Hajek, who we can't send down out of options, to work w/Fox. Up his game, showcase, deal Haj asap. Then we bring in Reunanen for the same and a fast exit.
THEN we bring in Jones.
I got nothing vs Lindy.
His devotees are forced to concede numbers don't lie. Robertson is his eventual heir, and Robby is bigger.
Jones is a stopgap.
Eventual D lineup after this season [hopefully]
Robertson - Fox
KAM - Schneider
Nemeth - Nils
numbers do not lie.
We should sell high on Lindy now and move Trouba sooner if he lets us so we have cap nec to extend Fox, pay LaF, Kakko[/QUOTE]
Kakko not going anywhere
And NY is better off not overpaying for Turcotte, even if you agree he is worth that and even if you think LA considers moving him, which they do not.
We will wait to manage the Kravtsov situation to get full value by first getting him here, upping his game, and showcasing him.
We are not selling him cheap now.
Which brings me back to the highest LAK goes, maybe, is Villardi.
For NYR, I go Lindgren for Villardi. Again, someone w/time make a thread for that.
Agree overall.
Our perceived needs as stated are actually overblown. And that is them not listening to me and trying Kravtsov at C.
Consider:
Zib is now locked up, with nmc. That's 1C
Chytil is fine at 2C
Strome we cannot afford is buh bye.
Several options, but I like Barron for 3C
and again several options Rooney/Blais = 4C
So if we repurpose someone into a good enough upside pivot we are good.
We don't need desperate gambles that deplete depth, eff up cap, etc.
No, pls see above.
\
Obv, we don't do this just for Hajek and you know I didn't say that.
It is a happy byproduct of removing 1 D we can get Hajek, who we can't send down out of options, to work w/Fox. Up his game, showcase, deal Haj asap. Then we bring in Reunanen for the same and a fast exit.
THEN we bring in Jones.
I got nothing vs Lindy.
His devotees are forced to concede numbers don't lie. Robertson is his eventual heir, and Robby is bigger.
Jones is a stopgap.
Eventual D lineup after this season [hopefully]
Robertson - Fox
KAM - Schneider
Nemeth - Nils
numbers do not lie.
We should sell high on Lindy now and move Trouba sooner if he lets us so we have cap nec to extend Fox, pay LaF, Kakko[/QUOTE]
Kings are rebuilding so it doesn't make sense, but Toffoli scored more goals in the NHL last year than Turcotte all league/tournaments combine the last 2 years... Turcotte was drafted 5th overall but I doubt he lives up to it, still a good prospect tho. If a contending team wants a 30+ goal scorer on a great contract it's going to cost them more then a late 1st. IMO Turcotte would've to be on the table, but I'm not as high as others on him. Haven't watch all his games either (1st year in NCAA and all WJCs)
Lindberg Cheese
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?????
A winger who can't make the AHL Rangers and a 3rd pair defenseman for Turcotte?
Where do i sign
Just stop.....
We don't like shady business.
We insist you keep the superstar and we gamble on a worthless prospect.
Lindberg Cheese
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Empoleon8771
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As a neutral fan who dunks on Rangers fans for overrating their players on here, this is a horrid analysis of the two pieces the Rangers are offering. Just comically dumb.
Oscar Lindberg
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Yeah maybe if you’re smoking dope lol
Although it seems you like Stoll, so that tracks
does not make sense for the kings IMO, fair or not.
If LA is making a 2 for 1 deal I hope LA is dealing the 2 for the better 1.
As a Sabres fans having Kings and Rangers fans tell us their 8th and 9th best prospects are UNTOUCHABLE in a deal for a top 10 NHL center, watching these two fan bases argue about the value of each others prospects is priceless.
N.Y. Orangeman
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he's not a top 10 NHL C atm
needs his choice of surgery
heal
then demonstrate he can cut the mustard
THEN you can consider a solid return -- presuming people have cap, which is a big deal
all the Eichel to LA stuff I have read on HF board (admittingly stopped following after Danault signed), were people just saying Byfeild was a no go, and some saying Turcotte and Clarke too.
I was in favor of a Turcotte +++ deal for Eichel. But as soon as LA signed Danault as well as it became evident Eichel would not be healthy to start the season there was no point.
