Sportsnet: Trouba requests trade

[McRpro]

I am not a Jets fans . Let be fair about this to all . The jets do not need forwards . So fellow Oilers fans offering RNH don't work

Well OK then fellow Oilers fan!

Herpyderpyderp!

Trouba will not be an Oiler.

 

[R3DDRAG0N]

Jets fans deserve the egg on their face.

Trouba will get the respect he deserves now.

Wow, pretty crass blanket statement.....yeah we deserve egg on our face because some 22 year old kid doesn't want to play here.

 

[R3DDRAG0N]

That's not a bad offer, but I don't think the Jets need JVR or pucks.

We need a D only we need zero aging forwards, we are flush. D ONLY

 

[Thai jet*]

Needs

Jets fans-- what is Trouba's contract situation, and what are your team needs?

$5.5-5.7 over 6-7 yrs.
The need more than anything is competent NHL management and an owner who butts out of hockey ops.

 

[Hunter368]

Jets fans deserve the egg on their face.

Trouba will get the respect he deserves now.

This is true, but not the fans fault, see below post. Don't blame Trouba for wanting out

Honestly, if Matthews or Rielly hadn't signed by now would Leaf fans be saying they think their own player wants out? Probably not if there were zero details to go by if neither the GM nor the players rep had leaked any negotiation details. We had nothing to go by, and because he's RFA he can't just go play for anyone else we still have a large part to play in this. Obviously he is harder to trade without a contract in place, so perhaps he still signs with us and maybe changes his mind should Byfuglien play left defense with Trouba on the right.

Being completely honest, the coach playing him with Stuart for 3 years even if he was getting like 20 mins a game last season didn't help him grow as a player in every situation. I'm sure he wants more than Chevy's word that something will change. It could also be about money as well, we don't know yet because what's said publicly may not be the whole truth. He wants to be the guy, but Byfuglien is our guy on defense and Myers who I'd trade in a heartbeat to keep Trouba has had two surgeries over the summer making his trade appeal extremely questionable at best until the season starts. Chevy's hands have been tied because of Myers surgeries, and he's not trading Byfuglien away after signing him long term. Trouba's unsure of his role on this team moving forward and I don't blame him, Myers while a respectable player, should have gone long before Trouba.

True

 

[McSuper]

Edmonton doesn't have the contract space to take on Trouba, unless he's willing to sign a cheap deal.

You're deal from above, with Nurse + a first + a prospect likely comes with an addtional 4-5 million cap hit.

If Trouba wants $6m, Edmonton has to move a player out of its lineup.

I can't see Edmonton giving up Nurse, a prospect, and a 1st, for a player that's going to impact their cap this way. Trouba's a good player, but he doesn't fit into Edmonton's cap.

The do if Ference goes the other way . that is 3.25 million . If Trouba signs for 6 million that is only 2.75 million . If Yakupov was include as well that is another 2.5 million and that Nurses 925,000 means we add no money . I take cap into consideration when making a post . I also take the other teams needs into consideration .

Might want to read the whole posting . I did say one of 3 players would have to be include for cap reason

 

[Funk21]

I am not a Jets fans . Let be fair about this to all . The jets do not need forwards . So fellow Oilers fans offering RNH don't work . I also think Chia wants to keep our centre depth .

Now Jets fan no matter how you spin it it does lower his value . Making him sit for a year doesn't help , it will decrease it even more . He also has a dick of an agent . I am sure GM know this and would rather not have the head ache .

Now what the Jets do need is a LHD and a goalie . Problem is the need to dump their goalie . I think the Jets have 2 choices here . Take an older more proven LHD and a pick to make up for the age difference or take a younger up and coming D and a pick to lesson the risk of taking a prospect . I guess a 3rd choice is take what the can get even if it is forwards and move package from an area of surplus for a need .

Now Oiler fans are saying Nurse and a first . I think is close with another add coming from the Oilers . Of course no fan base wants to move their top prospects but Trouba is what we hope Nurse becomes except on the more valuable right side . Then you have to figure the Oilers adding 2 good RHD in one off season alone with a few vets ( Versteeg and Lucic ) will make the Oilers much better . The Oilers improved by 38 GA last season and 8 points for . Considering the injuries we should improve more this season so that 1st just isn't going to be enough .

So my offer would be

Nurse , 2017 1st + choice of 1 prospect not named . Puljujarvi or Cagguila . Cagguila just signed with us and I think that trading him would hurt future signings . I would also include Yak instead of the prospect if needed . If you don't want yak move him for a pick in a 2nd deal . We would also need to include 1 other piece to make the cap work . Pouliot , Fayne or even Ference who is done playing so insurance will pay him . So a break down would be

Nurse
2017 1st
Prospect/Yak
Ference for cap space to sign Trouba . Cost the Jets nothing

I also think TML offer of Gardiner and TML first is a good offer . I think TML first will be higher and Gardiner is a decent top 4 D . I don't think I would let the TML put condition on that 1st pick . This draft is weaker . The talk is that the first OA this year would not knock any of Matthews , Laine or Puljujarvi out of the top 3 . Not that Pulju went top 3 but he was expect to .

Look while I know this took a lot of time to write up, the Jets have one of the deepest Goalie prospect tandems in the NHL. One likely becomes the starter this year. Nurse is a great prospect/NHL who could be something special but his development position at this point is third pairing. Jets likely to do better.

 

[victor]

The do if Ference goes the other way . that is 3.25 million . If Trouba signs for 6 million that is only 2.75 million . If Yakupov was include as well that is another 2.5 million and that Nurses 925,000 means we add no money . I take cap into consideration when making a post . I also take the other teams needs into consideration .

Might want to read the whole posting . I did say one of 3 players would have to be include for cap reason

I can't see any team taking on Ference, at this point and time, without Edmonton giving up something. He's LTIR, and a negative in a trade.

I don't see Winnipeg asking for Yakupov.

I can't see Edmonton giving up Nurse, seeing how both McLellan and Chiarelli speak of him (not to say that he's been displayed as a graphic in the new Roger's Place.)

It doesn't really fit into Edmonton's cap (assuming Trouba at a reasonable $6m) or how the team plays.

How does it look like a good fit?

 

[untouchable21]

I love this attitude. Why would they let him sit when they can trade him and get some assets back? This isn't about money.

Why would you trade him for lowball offers? Chevy will let him sit until he gets what he determines to be good value.

Trouba can sign a reasonable contract and wait to be traded or ge can choose to sit and wait.

 

[McRpro]

I can't see any team taking on Ference, at this point and time, without giving up something. He's LTIR, and a negative in a trade.

I don't see Winnipeg asking for Yakupov.

I can't see Edmonton giving up Nurse, seeing how both McLellan and Chiarelli speak of him (not to say that he's been displayed as a graphic in the new Roger's Place.)

It doesn't really fit into Edmonton's cap (assuming Trouba at a reasonable $6m) or how the team plays.

How does it look like a good fit?

The problem is that is most definitely not reasonable.

 

[McSuper]

Your trying I get that, but really Oilers stop with Nurse or Nurse+ offers, Nurse is so far from Trouba not even funny, zero interest in Nurse.

I guess you never watch Nurse for all his games last year . While he not on Trouba level today he has the potential to be right up there . He was in over his head last year but he was good for about 20 games until he got moved up in the line up . Look at Nurse development curve . He improved every year since his drafting . I expect in will take another leap forward . I see Nurse as a top 4 D in the next year with potential to be more .

You got Jets fans saying let him sit for a year . Do you think this is going to help his value ? It will hurt his development and decrease his value more . His agent is also a known ass to deal with and it is a head ache a GM just doesn't need . This will also lower his value . But hey another team will hand over a = D signed to a good contract with out having to deal with an ass of an agent .

If that what you think you live in a world of sunny skies and rainbows with a pot of gold at the end of each one .

The Joke will be on Jets fans and their GM if he signs oversea and gets a career ending injury

 

[Thai jet*]

Tnse

Unfortunately I think this will be an ongoing situation for Winnipeg and its players. Luckily they have lots of young talent and draft very well.

Great fans but an interfering owner. The present situation will never allow for a true contending team.

 

[North]

For sure. Guy who plays third pair is a number one in the hearts of Jets fans.

If Trouba was a number one he'd be worth more than Nurse and a first, but fill yer boots.

 

[McSuper]

Why would you trade him for lowball offers? Chevy will let him sit until he gets what he determines to be good value.

Trouba can sign a reasonable contract and wait to be traded or ge can choose to sit and wait.

Or as I mention Trouba will sign oversea and then the Jets lose value on him and risk him getting a career ending injury

 

[McSuper]

If Trouba was a number one he'd be worth more than Nurse and a first, but fill yer boots.

As an Oiler fan he is worth more then Nurse and a mid first . If you think that 1st is going be top 5 an argument can be made

 

[Hobby Bull]

http://www.winnipeg.climatemps.com/january.php



This is why!

The cold is a valid point. For certain some players or players' wives will shun it. A few will embrace it though. Snowmobiling and ice-fishing, while hard to fathom for many, are a joy to a few.

I realise some people are not hardy enough for the cold, but the only NHL city in Canada that gets more hours of sunshine than Winnipeg in January is Calgary. (Responding to the bolded)

 

[Gabe Kupari]

What a thread. You got oiler fans offering crap. Leaf fans who a month ago were crapping all over trouba making fantasy land proposals. Bottom line here.... you can replace winnipeg with any Canadian city here... he doesn't want to play in Canada. Oilers. Leafs. It ain't happening. It's not about Winnipeg. It's about wanting to play in the USA.

Seriously the teams I've heard who have been interested for a while are Colorado Detroit and Arizona and even Boston. He's not going to be traded to another Canadian team and he will only be traded when a team makes an offer that the Jets like. 22 yr old entitled rfa with a ****** agent. Yup. Jets better move him fast otherwise wait... otherwise he sits on his ass in Michigan and Rots pretty much. The day some 22 yr old and his agent dictate where he can or can't be traded to is the day hockey dies. He's a rfa. His options are limited. Jets will only trade him when they get what they want in return.

 

[Hunter368]

I guess you never watch Nurse for all his games last year . While he not on Trouba level today he has the potential to be right up there . He was in over his head last year but he was good for about 20 games until he got moved up in the line up . Look at Nurse development curve . He improved every year since his drafting . I expect in will take another leap forward . I see Nurse as a top 4 D in the next year with potential to be more .

You got Jets fans saying let him sit for a year . Do you think this is going to help his value ? It will hurt his development and decrease his value more . His agent is also a known ass to deal with and it is a head ache a GM just doesn't need . This will also lower his value . But hey another team will hand over a = D signed to a good contract with out having to deal with an ass of an agent .

If that what you think you live in a world of sunny skies and rainbows with a pot of gold at the end of each one .

The Joke will be on Jets fans and their GM if he signs oversea and gets a career ending injury

I. All for a fair trade, most jets fans are......but Nurse and yak? Really? You call that a fair trade? Pretty sure you know that would never happen in reality unless Chevy wanted to get fired. Fans are saying let him sit so he has to sign a deal, he won't go to KHL or Europe. Then trade him under contract. We can also let teams talk to his camp find out his real demands and then make offers. We have the entire NHL potentially as partners considering we have lots of cap space to get creative

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I guess you never watch Nurse for all his games last year . While he not on Trouba level today he has the potential to be right up there . He was in over his head last year but he was good for about 20 games until he got moved up in the line up . Look at Nurse development curve . He improved every year since his drafting . I expect in will take another leap forward . I see Nurse as a top 4 D in the next year with potential to be more .

You got Jets fans saying let him sit for a year . Do you think this is going to help his value ? It will hurt his development and decrease his value more . His agent is also a known ass to deal with and it is a head ache a GM just doesn't need . This will also lower his value . But hey another team will hand over a = D signed to a good contract with out having to deal with an ass of an agent .

If that what you think you live in a world of sunny skies and rainbows with a pot of gold at the end of each one .

The Joke will be on Jets fans and their GM if he signs oversea and gets a career ending injury

Ya. Buff. Myers. Enstrom. Morrissey. Yup. Jokes on jet fans for sure. It wouldn't be on the entitled 22 yr old who thinks he can tell an nhl team to do as he says

 

[Bluesman]

No he isn't. He's pretty much right where Reinhart was when the Oilers traded for him, or possibly a little behind.

lol wut? Start a poll on who would take Reinhart over Nurse. I dare you.

Sucks for WPG as they're building something up special up there and it's not likely that a Johansen is available (good job CLB). I wonder how much of this is about money and how much of this is about role (he was playing at LD iirc)? Or maybe he has an affinity for track suits?

I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking for an increased, stable role or the money to offset and the Jets offered neither. Curious to see what Chevy gets as he probably doesn't have a Tim Murray waiting to overpay...

 

[skyo]

Wonder what that trade package look like, Chychrun +?

 

[thejaf7]

Trouba for Seth Rollins. Book it.

 

[McSuper]

What a thread. You got oiler fans offering crap. Leaf fans who a month ago were crapping all over trouba making fantasy land proposals. Bottom line here.... you can replace winnipeg with any Canadian city here... he doesn't want to play in Canada. Oilers. Leafs. It ain't happening. It's not about Winnipeg. It's about wanting to play in the USA.

Seriously the teams I've heard who have been interested for a while are Colorado Detroit and Arizona and even Boston. He's not going to be traded to another Canadian team and he will only be traded when a team makes an offer that the Jets like. 22 yr old entitled rfa with a ****** agent. Yup. Jets better move him fast otherwise wait... otherwise he sits on his ass in Michigan and Rots pretty much. The day some 22 yr old and his agent dictate where he can or can't be traded to is the day hockey dies. He's a rfa. His options are limited. Jets will only trade him when they get what they want in return.

This can be viewed the same way from other fans . The Jets got an unhappy D with an ass of an agent to deal with and they want a team to give up an equal player already signed to a good contract just because they owe the Jets a favour .

Then LOL at Jets fans saying let him sit . That will only lower his value . Plus more then likely he would end up signing overseas . If I was a player and a team played games with me I would sign overseas and make it known I will not return to the NHL until the Jets lose my rights . I would make it known do not trade for me I will not return until the Jets get nothing or the team that trades for me gets nothing for me . Just because they screwed with me I would make sure it cost them more

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

There are valid reasons to demand a trade, "it's cold" is not one of them I don't care if you are a player, or a players wife if your reason for wanting out is it's cold shut up quit whining and enjoy the millions you make to play a sport and if you are a players wife, enjoy the fact you literally don't need to lift a finger you have enough money to hire someone to do EVERYTHING for you

And you can't handle a little cold.

Stop being a *****

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Lol at 6 million. No team will give him more than Reilly or Jones.