Nope
With the position this useless management has put us in I would trade for Draisaitl in a flash.
With the position this useless management has put us in I would trade for Draisaitl in a flash.
Sportsnet: Trouba requests trade
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MardyBum
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No doubt trouba would be part of the jets future but I think (not sure) that Myers limited trade clause in his deal is still valid which would potentially make moving him even more difficult. No doubt the jets have a very tough decision to make given trouba's talent level and a limited ability to move one of their other right handed top 4 d man.
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Many fans are spoon fed by Jets owner TNSE using the local lapdog media but not all of us swallow.
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CarlWinslow
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CarlWinslow
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I was a fan of another team before the Jets existed. Why would I change?
I live here because I was raised here and now I make a lot of money to put up with this place. But I'll be leaving within the next few years.
MardyBum
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Yep, that's why we're on here, because our opinions don't matter in the hockey world.
-40 in the winter, Mosquito capital of the world in summer, sorry but the Peg is on nobody's list of places they want to live during the season or in the offseason by choice. But lets stick to the point and the fact that his agent said this is more about the player wanting to play a more impactful RHD role.
The Jets will get a great haul off of Trouba, would like to see him in a leafs uniform but at the right cost.
We are stacked at RW, rather lose cap then our first round pick. Both Nylander and Marner project to be better players and likely take up our top two RW positions. Only thing Kap has on them is size.
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Not really. The majority of teams in the league will be interested in Trouba. Many will be bound see high value/potential in him, and rightly so.
Evander Kane was Chevy's last "diminished asset" that wanted out, and he got terrific value there. And Kane has less value, and plays a less valuable position. Quality D are tough to find- someone is going to pay.
Dany Heatley wanted a trade in his prime and had huge return too.
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I'd rather Trouba rot for the next 4 years in whatever American city he wants to go to then deal him for some of the worst trade proposals I've ever seen in this thread.
I love in the same breath people can trash him saying he's a 4th D and say OMG he's be so perfect with so and so... Pathetic.
I love in the same breath people can trash him saying he's a 4th D and say OMG he's be so perfect with so and so... Pathetic.
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No he isn't. He's pretty much right where Reinhart was when the Oilers traded for him, or possibly a little behind.
Unless he decides to go play in Russia until he's 27 the worst case of "getting nothing for Trouba" is that he's forced to sign a bridge deal and go to arbitration a couple times to carry him to UFA status. That's 4 years of a top pair defender at a good salary. I'd like to get more, AKA have him sign long term or trade for something more valuable but the above is the minimum.
TheLeastOfTheBunch
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Funny to look back at how things diverged after all of those Rielly vs Trouba/Morrissey debates.
Would love to see Toronto somehow acquire him
Would love to see Toronto somehow acquire him
I am not a Jets fans . Let be fair about this to all . The jets do not need forwards . So fellow Oilers fans offering RNH don't work . I also think Chia wants to keep our centre depth .
Now Jets fan no matter how you spin it it does lower his value . Making him sit for a year doesn't help , it will decrease it even more . He also has a dick of an agent . I am sure GM know this and would rather not have the head ache .
Now what the Jets do need is a LHD and a goalie . Problem is the need to dump their goalie . I think the Jets have 2 choices here . Take an older more proven LHD and a pick to make up for the age difference or take a younger up and coming D and a pick to lesson the risk of taking a prospect . I guess a 3rd choice is take what the can get even if it is forwards and move package from an area of surplus for a need .
Now Oiler fans are saying Nurse and a first . I think is close with another add coming from the Oilers . Of course no fan base wants to move their top prospects but Trouba is what we hope Nurse becomes except on the more valuable right side . Then you have to figure the Oilers adding 2 good RHD in one off season alone with a few vets ( Versteeg and Lucic ) will make the Oilers much better . The Oilers improved by 38 GA last season and 8 points for . Considering the injuries we should improve more this season so that 1st just isn't going to be enough .
So my offer would be
Nurse , 2017 1st + choice of 1 prospect not named . Puljujarvi or Cagguila . Cagguila just signed with us and I think that trading him would hurt future signings . I would also include Yak instead of the prospect if needed . If you don't want yak move him for a pick in a 2nd deal . We would also need to include 1 other piece to make the cap work . Pouliot , Fayne or even Ference who is done playing so insurance will pay him . So a break down would be
Nurse
2017 1st
Prospect/Yak
Ference for cap space to sign Trouba . Cost the Jets nothing
I also think TML offer of Gardiner and TML first is a good offer . I think TML first will be higher and Gardiner is a decent top 4 D . I don't think I would let the TML put condition on that 1st pick . This draft is weaker . The talk is that the first OA this year would not knock any of Matthews , Laine or Puljujarvi out of the top 3 . Not that Pulju went top 3 but he was expect to .
Now Jets fan no matter how you spin it it does lower his value . Making him sit for a year doesn't help , it will decrease it even more . He also has a dick of an agent . I am sure GM know this and would rather not have the head ache .
Now what the Jets do need is a LHD and a goalie . Problem is the need to dump their goalie . I think the Jets have 2 choices here . Take an older more proven LHD and a pick to make up for the age difference or take a younger up and coming D and a pick to lesson the risk of taking a prospect . I guess a 3rd choice is take what the can get even if it is forwards and move package from an area of surplus for a need .
Now Oiler fans are saying Nurse and a first . I think is close with another add coming from the Oilers . Of course no fan base wants to move their top prospects but Trouba is what we hope Nurse becomes except on the more valuable right side . Then you have to figure the Oilers adding 2 good RHD in one off season alone with a few vets ( Versteeg and Lucic ) will make the Oilers much better . The Oilers improved by 38 GA last season and 8 points for . Considering the injuries we should improve more this season so that 1st just isn't going to be enough .
So my offer would be
Nurse , 2017 1st + choice of 1 prospect not named . Puljujarvi or Cagguila . Cagguila just signed with us and I think that trading him would hurt future signings . I would also include Yak instead of the prospect if needed . If you don't want yak move him for a pick in a 2nd deal . We would also need to include 1 other piece to make the cap work . Pouliot , Fayne or even Ference who is done playing so insurance will pay him . So a break down would be
Nurse
2017 1st
Prospect/Yak
Ference for cap space to sign Trouba . Cost the Jets nothing
I also think TML offer of Gardiner and TML first is a good offer . I think TML first will be higher and Gardiner is a decent top 4 D . I don't think I would let the TML put condition on that 1st pick . This draft is weaker . The talk is that the first OA this year would not knock any of Matthews , Laine or Puljujarvi out of the top 3 . Not that Pulju went top 3 but he was expect to .
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jetsforever
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Edmonton doesn't have the contract space to take on Trouba, unless he's willing to sign a cheap deal.
You're deal from above, with Nurse + a first + a prospect likely comes with an addtional 4-5 million cap hit.
If Trouba wants $6m, Edmonton has to move a player out of its lineup.
I can't see Edmonton giving up Nurse, a prospect, and a 1st, for a player that's going to impact their cap this way. Trouba's a good player, but he doesn't fit into Edmonton's cap.
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Your trying I get that, but really Oilers stop with Nurse or Nurse+ offers, Nurse is so far from Trouba not even funny, zero interest in Nurse.
Honestly, if Matthews or Rielly hadn't signed by now would Leaf fans be saying they think their own player wants out? Probably not if there were zero details to go by if neither the GM nor the players rep had leaked any negotiation details. We had nothing to go by, and because he's RFA he can't just go play for anyone else we still have a large part to play in this. Obviously he is harder to trade without a contract in place, so perhaps he still signs with us and maybe changes his mind should Byfuglien play left defense with Trouba on the right.
Being completely honest, the coach playing him with Stuart for 3 years even if he was getting like 20 mins a game last season didn't help him grow as a player in every situation. I'm sure he wants more than Chevy's word that something will change. It could also be about money as well, we don't know yet because what's said publicly may not be the whole truth. He wants to be the guy, but Byfuglien is our guy on defense and Myers who I'd trade in a heartbeat to keep Trouba has had two surgeries over the summer making his trade appeal extremely questionable at best until the season starts. Chevy's hands have been tied because of Myers surgeries, and he's not trading Byfuglien away after signing him long term. Trouba's unsure of his role on this team moving forward and I don't blame him, Myers while a respectable player, should have gone long before Trouba.
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