Sportsnet: Trouba requests trade

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1989

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Considering how he's looked in Calgary thus far, no it wasn't.

Heh. Trouba's not better than Larsson. One was #1/#2 on the 8th best defensive team, the other was #3 on the 22nd best defensive team.

Wait, you mean how he's already had a career year in his first season with the Flames playing a full 82 game schedule?

Man, if you thought this season was bad, I can't wait for him to improve. :amazed:

Larsson is a good defender. Oilers fans should see what they have in him before trying to acquire another piece, unless you can offload Sekera or something, concerning contracts and roster spots for the expansion draft.
 

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Gotta feel for the Jets, I could see this situation getting ugly. What a pile of trash Overhardt is, comes out and drops this bomb two weeks before the start of the season.

I know Jets fans will sit there and tell themselves that Chevy can get near full value but it's two weeks before the season it's gonna be hard to find a GM with a need, cap space, assets to give up, who wants to pay full value for a guy who requested a trade and is represented by probably the most difficult agent to deal with in the league and has no problem having his clients sit out. At this point a contract with the Jets is not happening so if Chevy doesn't trade him in the next couple weeks he's sitting out.
 

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For the people saying he is/isn't a top pairing guy, he was 74th in the league in points as a 22yr old on a god awful team, while remaining a +10 in front of one of the worst goaltending duos in the league. If you ask me, the fact that he can play defense makes him slightly better than a lot of guys in the 60-80 range such as Liles etc.

Top Pairing:
1-30 = #1 guy
31-60 = #2 guy

2nd pairing
61-90 = #3 guy

So he's a mid to high #3 basically, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a young 22yr d-man who is pretty good defensively to improve his offense at some point, and 9-10pts would make him a 30pt~ d-man and a top pairing guy.

Sure he's overrated by people already trying to call him a top pairing guy, but he has the potential to be still. He's right on the cusp.
 

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For the people saying he is/isn't a top pairing guy, he was 74th in the league in points as a 22yr old on a god awful team, while remaining a +10 in front of one of the worst goaltending duos in the league. If you ask me, the fact that he can play defense makes him slightly better than a lot of guys in the 60-80 range such as Liles etc.

Top Pairing:
1-30 = #1 guy
31-60 = #2 guy

2nd pairing
61-90 = #3 guy

So he's a mid to high #3 basically, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a young 22yr d-man who is pretty good defensively to improve his offense at some point, and 9-10pts would make him a 30pt~ d-man and a top pairing guy.

Sure he's overrated by people already trying to call him a top pairing guy, but he has the potential to be still. He's right on the cusp.

Yeah, I'd say he's a #3 right now. That's pretty reasonable.
 

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Sorry Jets fans, Hamomic is going nowhere now. Should have made that trade early last season. Good luck getting proper value with little leverage. Would just let him sit and deal with it.


As a Jets fan, I agree. Unless there's a real good offer on the table, obviously. Chevy seemed to do pretty damn good job with an Evander Kane who people knew wanted out and vice versa. Sure wish Trouba would have killed it at the WC. Would'a raised his stock value.
 

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Heh. Trouba's not better than Larsson. One was #1/#2 on the 8th best defensive team, the other was #3 on the 22nd best defensive team.

I'm not going to say he is better but the goalies playing behind those two are a little different... One is easy top 10 the other is easy bottom 10!
 

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The only leverage Chevy needs is having multiple teams interested in him. So far, thus thread makes it clear that lots of teams would love to get Trouba. I agree. Best offer wins. Chevy will wait till he gets his price. Jets don't need to win now, and Chevy has the backing of a tough ownership group that won't cave if the trade takes some time.

Going public doesn't change much of anything on the trade market. Chevy probably already has had talks with most teams. It's just fans that found out this late in the process. Overhardt hopes this will put pressure on Chevy to make a trade before Trouba misses any pay cheques. It won't.
He hasn't been able to get multi teams bidding since May.
My guess is OTT, BUF, NJ, FLA, or CAR are the teams with the highest chance to land him. The return won't be what Jets fans are hoping for though
 

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TO ANA: JVR

TO TOR: Trouba

TO WIN: Fowler + Kapanen

Anaheim gets their top line, left shooting LW

Toronto get a RHD to grow with Matthews and Co.

Winnipeg get a young LHD that can play top pairing as well as Kapanen who could end up playing opposite Laine.

We don't have the cap space. Obviously you forgot about that when we have 2 RFAs unsigned.
 

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TO ANA: JVR

TO TOR: Trouba

TO WIN: Fowler + Kapanen

Anaheim gets their top line, left shooting LW

Toronto get a RHD to grow with Matthews and Co.

Winnipeg get a young LHD that can play top pairing as well as Kapanen who could end up playing opposite Laine.

I actually think that this is pretty good :handclap:
All teams get their needs.
Anaheim gets JVR and his sweet contract.
Leafs get their potential RHD they want.
WPG gets top 4 LHD and an ok prospect in Kapanen who I think would fit will with their system.
Money works for everyone...not bad my friend :)
 

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Yeah, I'd say he's a #3 right now. That's pretty reasonable.

Yup, and in the context of only having 17 even strength points (4 PP) and still being a +10, on such a bad team... that means he must be doing something right. Kind of hard to be a +10 with only 17 ES pts if you aren't playing the game right. Must mean he either doesn't get scored on a lot when he's on the ice or that he's on the ice for a decent amount of goals for which he isn't credited with in actual points.

Probably a little of column A and B. I think any team that can capitalize and get him now that has a hole on 2nd pairing RD or even 1st pairing would be improving their team quite a bit right from the start with the potential to improve even more over the next 2-5 years.
 

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Whatever, he can sit till he signs a contract or someone offers a worthwhile trade. Here's hoping Morrissey is ready to go.
 

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Gotta feel for the Jets, I could see this situation getting ugly. What a pile of trash Overhardt is, comes out and drops this bomb two weeks before the start of the season.

I know Jets fans will sit there and tell themselves that Chevy can get near full value but it's two weeks before the season it's gonna be hard to find a GM with a need, cap space, assets to give up, who wants to pay full value for a guy who requested a trade and is represented by probably the most difficult agent to deal with in the league and has no problem having his clients sit out. At this point a contract with the Jets is not happening so if Chevy doesn't trade him in the next couple weeks he's sitting out.

We need to be the team to put Overhardt in his place. Trouba need to not play this it's not personal it's business. Morrisay can play 2nd D and Charoitt played well with Buff.
 

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If it's true he's seeking a trade because of usage, this is much like Drouin (except no contract).

The Jets top 4 has three RHD.

If the reason for the trade request is true, I suspect that Chevy would have moved Myers (RHD) out to accomodate the usage back in May. Problem is, Myers was injured and requiring two surgeries. Now that that's dealt with, and he is 100% (his claim, plus he passed the physical), I would hope Chevy moves Myers for a defenceman, signs Trouba, and he will instantly become the #2 RHD, maybe even #1 if Buff starts to show his age.

What I don't understand is why they can't move Buff or Myers to the left, why is it just Trouba they're forcing there?

In terms of value, the Jets do NOT need any more forwards. If he is traded, Id be okay with it being Arizona, and Jakob Chychrun coming back.
 

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So from what I'm gathering from reading about Morgan Reilly is he's already a first pairing defenseman but Trouba isn't?

Morgan Rielly ended the season 36th in pts on the worst team in the league. A team that ranked 28th in GF. Trouba ranked 74th on a team that ranked 21st in GF. I've already explained above how Trouba is a #3 on the cusp of being a first pairing d-man.

Please explain to us how a guy who was 36th in the league in pts tied with Ekblad for pts and doing so from a team that is 28th in GF with no remotely good d-man paired with him is somehow not a 1st pairing guy? I'm by no means a Rielly fan but the facts speak for themselves. He's easily in the 30-60 range even if you want to blame his -17 on him, which if you look at his team you shouldn't be.

He's on the high end of a #2 potentially even low end of a #1 currently, just like Trouba is the tier below that being the high end of a #3, potentially even low end of a #2.
 
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