Sportsnet: Trouba requests trade

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Explain to me how you mean to acquire a 22 year old top pairing RHD then.

We expect Lou to work his magic like he did with Schneider.

 

[LeafsNation149]

Explain to me how you mean to acquire a 22 year old top pairing RHD then.

Last time I checked, Trouba was not a top pairing Dman. Leafs do not plan to aquire a 22 year old top pairing dman by trading one of the top 5 prospects in the league. You don't trade someone with as much potential as Nylander and Marner for a dman that requests a trade and wants 7M...

Let alone adding a 26 year old LHD, that's currently better than Trouba and on a good contract

 

[Devourers]

Oh my God... get on it Yzerman. You've been wanting to unload Bishop. This is your chance

Tbh I didn't think of this scernario, but it's a damn good idea for both teams. Bishop is the real deal, but if TB believes in Vasilevsky or in the fact that you don't need one of the best goalies to win it all (a mentality I think a lot of management probably do believe in the current NHL) then it could be a win for both teams.

It's tough to judge which side adds though. Bishop is a proven commodity, but it's no secret Tampa could benefit from offloading him. He had a great year and I see him continuing to be a beast, but I don't think the difference between him and a prime/close to prime Vasilevsky is the difference of winning a cup or not.

At the same time, Trouba is quite overrated. Reminds me of when Bogosian was a Jet. Every young d-man with upside gets vastly overrated in that city. I understand, I have high hopes for plenty of the Habs young D too and overrate them myself. But can't deny it's a trend for fans to overrate their young D. At the same time, I do think Trouba would have good value in a trade and I do think if he gets the position he wants he'll sign a reasonable contract.

On HF we hear all the time <insert player> looking for 8-9mil per, then a week later the guy signs for like 5-6 mil per. I think it's safe to say those demands are either simply untrue or a negotiation tactic.

But which side adds? IMO, it's Tampa Bay due to goalies having lesser value than young top 4 d-men do.

 

[PensandCaps]

Explain to me how you mean to acquire a 22 year old top pairing RHD then.

Trouba ain't a top pair RHD...will be...not yet.

 

[Mr Positive]

What's the hurry? Chevy and the Jets really don't care if Trouba sits all season. They won't trade him until they get what they consider is fair value. He can go play in the KHL for all I care. Lol! Have fun sitting Jerkob!

meanwhile that could mean another season with no playoffs for the Jets. There's leverage both ways

 

[Langdon Alger]

What's the hurry? Chevy and the Jets really don't care if Trouba sits all season. They won't trade him until they get what they consider is fair value. He can go play in the KHL for all I care. Lol! Have fun sitting Jerkob!

I love this attitude. Why would they let him sit when they can trade him and get some assets back? This isn't about money.

 

[McJC]

Like hall right?

That was an act of desperation. Before that trade, Mark Fayne was our top RHD. Although it'd be ideal to add another top 4 RHD, the Oilers are much less desperate. We became a better team with the Hall for Larsson deal, but you can only make so many of those types of trades before it comes back to bite you. McDavid, RNH, and Draisaitl is amazing centre depth and Chiarelli will not destroy it to acquire a defenseman that'd play on our second pairing.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Kerby Rychel, Martin Marincin and a 2nd should do it. Go get em Lou.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Arizona has a ton of prospects but does Winnipeg want prospects, they have many of their own.

Toronto fans want Trouba - the value of young dmen with top pairing potential we know is high. Marner or Nylander straight up for Trouba I doubt gets it done, Winnipeg will want a dman back.

Marner or Nylander
Gardiner

Trouba
Roslovic or Lemieux

I would hate the Leafs getting Lemieux as a Sabres fan considering I hated trading him, kid is going to be a major piece of ***** to play against just like the old man.

Are you kidding me?
I wouldn't trade 1 of those pieces for Trouba, let alone two.

 

[McVespa99]

LOL Trouba would instantly be the Oilers best defenseman

Actually he would be our 3rd best. Those of you looking at Trouba through the glasses tinted by his rookie season would be really dissapointed if they traded for him. He looked like he was going to be a stud after his first year. Now he looks like a mediocre 2nd pairing guy. That does not mean he wont improve but at this point he is no where near good enough to be a 5 or 6 million dollar guy.

 

[uncleben]

Tbh I didn't think of this scernario, but it's a damn good idea for both teams. Bishop is the real deal, but if TB believes in Vasilevsky or in the fact that you don't need one of the best goalies to win it all (a mentality I think a lot of management probably do believe in the current NHL) then it could be a win for both teams.

It's tough to judge which side adds though. Bishop is a proven commodity, but it's no secret Tampa could benefit from offloading him. He had a great year and I see him continuing to be a beast, but I don't think the difference between him and a prime/close to prime Vasilevsky is the difference of winning a cup or not.

At the same time, Trouba is quite overrated. Reminds me of when Bogosian was a Jet. Every young d-man with upside gets vastly overrated in that city. I understand, I have high hopes for plenty of the Habs young D too and overrate them myself. But can't deny it's a trend for fans to overrate their young D. At the same time, I do think Trouba would have good value in a trade and I do think if he gets the position he wants he'll sign a reasonable contract.

On HF we hear all the time <insert player> looking for 8-9mil per, then a week later the guy signs for like 5-6 mil per. I think it's safe to say those demands are either simply untrue or a negotiation tactic.

But which side adds? IMO, it's Tampa Bay due to goalies having lesser value than young top 4 d-men do.

Idk if the Bolts could afford Trouba though.
Too many guys needing contract upgrades.

 

[Le Golie]

Trouba ain't a top pair RHD...will be...not yet.

On the Leafs though? You could probably be a top 4.

 

[JayP812]

What will the Jets be looking for as a main piece? An equivilent left side D, forward, or finally a reliable goalie?

 

[CaptainSexyPants]

It was a bad decision not to give up Nurse for Hamilton then and it would be an even worse decision not to give up Nurse++ for Trouba. Trouba is an established top pairing two-way RHD. He's better than Rielly, Larsson, Ristolainen, etc. Leafs fans and Oilers fans and everyone else likes to **** on this guy because Jets fans can be kinda annoying sometimes, but Trouba is the real deal and he's become ridiculously underrated on HF.

Considering how he's looked in Calgary thus far, no it wasn't.

Heh. Trouba's not better than Larsson. One was #1/#2 on the 8th best defensive team, the other was #3 on the 22nd best defensive team.

 

[smoneil]

I think this is awful. Skjei could be better than trouba and then throwing in Miller too. Terrible. I dont think the rangers have the pieces the Jets want

I like Skjei too, but they were drafted the same year. One of them has played a couple of hundred NHL games including on the top pair. The other has played seven games where he looked like a promising rookie. There is no world where Skjei ends up better than Trouba.

And Miller is another player I like, but where are you going to play all of these forwards? This team has enough wingers for two rosters.

A swap of Skjei and Miller for Trouba and someone like Dano would be win/win for both teams. Touba > Skjei > Miller > Dano

Both teams deal from areas of strength to improve areas of weakness.

 

[TT1]

I think so. But I'll push my luck here

Bishop
Sustr
2nd round pick

Trouba
Connor
1st round pick

I really don't think I'm being unfair here

worst proposal i've seen this year

 

[The_Chosen_One]

How is he better than any of those defensemen listed? The guy is overrated. He's a good top 4 defenseman. He has not 'established' himself as a top pairing defenseman.

He is pretty great defenseively with from what I've seen and what many have said, a limited offensive game that hasn't shown signs of breaking out.

His return would be substantial because of age and potential, not because he's a top pair player.

Agree. Trouba can puck rush, but he lacks the creativity to be a reliable solution in the offensive zone. At this point, I rate the Ristolainen the highest among that list and I see Rielly becoming a very special defenseman.

 

[heretik27]

Last time I checked, Trouba was not a top pairing Dman. Leafs do not plan to aquire a 22 year old top pairing dman by trading one of the top 5 prospects in the league. You don't trade someone with as much potential as Nylander and Marner for a dman that requests a trade and wants 7M...

Let alone adding a 26 year old LHD, that's currently better than Trouba and on a good contract

I'm positive you've been to enough Jets threads to know by now that the 7M rumor was completely false, so why do you keep parroting it? Is it just to get your digs in now while you can? Sure seems immature considering I've seen you posting in Jet prospect and player threads for the better part of the last year I've been reading these sections.

 

[larmex99]

I never suggested a one-for-one deal. I was thinking along the lines of Sekera + Nurse for Trouba.

OK, that wasn't clear. Unfortunately Nurse would be playing for the Moose based on the 8-10 times I watched him last year. He is a big strong guy who looks out of place. Even on the Oil.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Nash retained (like, 30-50%) for Trouba

Throw in Winnipeg native Dylan McIlrath if you want.

Come on. Trouba is not worth that much

 

[Street Hawk]

Fan of both teams and that is similar to what I think Arizona would need to offer. Jets would need to go out and sign a LHD for this season though.

Unlikely the jets get that LHD that they need in a trouba deal. Hard to find equal value.

They may simply have to move Trouba for maximum value, then figure out another deal to acquire a LHD.

As for Trouba, i can understand his stance. If he can't play the left side, then a bridge deal will not increase his value.

Canucks have always been LHD heavy and none of their guys were ever that comfortable on the right side. Thus the heavy price they had to pay to get gudbranson. Even team Canada prefers to take lesser LHD over more talented rhd.

So, if a right d is available, there will be plenty of teams inquiring. Take the best offer them deal for a left d later. Can either move your current assets or the assets from the deal to get the d they need afterwards.

 

[Atoyot]

Kerby Rychel, Martin Marincin and a 2nd should do it. Go get em Lou.

It really shouldn't.

 

[Mr Clutch]

I like Skjei too, but they were drafted the same year. One of them has played a couple of hundred NHL games including on the top pair. The other has played seven games where he looked like a promising rookie. There is no world where Skjei ends up better than Trouba.

And Miller is another player I like, but where are you going to play all of these forwards? This team has enough wingers for two rosters.

A swap of Skjei and Miller for Trouba and someone like Dano would be win/win for both teams. Touba > Skjei > Miller > Dano

Both teams deal from areas of strength to improve areas of weakness.

Well skjei was in college so thats a bit different. I dont think anyone knows who will be the better player. Trouba is talented but I as well as many others in this thread feel he is overrated.

 

[SFD22]

TO ANA: JVR

TO TOR: Trouba

TO WIN: Fowler + Kapanen

Anaheim gets their top line, left shooting LW

Toronto get a RHD to grow with Matthews and Co.

Winnipeg get a young LHD that can play top pairing as well as Kapanen who could end up playing opposite Laine.

 

[Sonny21]

Are you kidding me?
I wouldn't trade 1 of those pieces for Trouba, let alone two.

I would easily do Gardiner+prospect. I know Gardiner is a great 2nd pairing guy with great possession numbers, but RHD with more potential and a mean streak is exactly what Leafs need.

I really want that Rielly Trouba pairing