Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VII

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Doubt that Carolina or Colorado would though.

 

[Hire Sather]

I would consider this (Jets fan).

Consider it? Come on man. You run to take that deal as a Jets fan.

 

[JetsHomer]

Exactly this, With Trouba's trade demand his trade value is worth considerably less then those two.

This is exactly why the Jets won't trade Trouba without a contract.

 

[Hire Sather]

This is exactly why the Jets won't trade Trouba without a contract.

And they are right for that. Trouba needs to sign, he will. The teams always win these battles with their RFA's. Trouba has zero leverage as the Dec 1 deadline approaches.

 

[Jets92]

No way Trouba gets us Hanifin. Carolina gets hosed here.

Matt duchene is a legit centre who has the same number of goals as their highest scoring player right now. Also defence is a position of strength for Carolina , who still has Hayden fleury as a potential fill ( not the same caliber but a promising prospect still). Their could be slight adds but I don't think it's to far off.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

This is exactly why the Jets won't trade Trouba without a contract.

Yup and i think it will happen within the next 2 to 3 weeks, As long as Trouba agrees to sign a reasonable deal that can benefit him and Chevy and then when he does get traded. And then Chevy gets the bast deal for him. But it sounds like as long as it's an american team.

 

[Hire Sather]

Matt duchene is a legit centre who has the same number of goals as their highest scoring player right now. Also defence is a position of strength for Carolina , who still has Hayden fleury as a potential fill ( not the same caliber but a promising prospect still). Their could be slight adds but I don't think it's to far off.

Carolina and Colorado can talk about a deal if they want. Winnipeg doesn't get into that conversation with an unsigned Trouba who at the moment refuses to sign with the club.

 

[Whileee]

Exactly this, With Trouba's trade demand his trade value is worth considerably less then those two.

Not if the Avs really want Trouba and he's willing to sign with them.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Carolina and Colorado can talk about a deal if they want. Winnipeg doesn't get into that conversation with an unsigned Trouba who at the moment refuses to sign with the club.

yeah, i don't understand why the avs just wouldn't trade for hanifin. he's cheaper for 2 more seasons and likely has more upside in him and is LHD were the avs are weaker. avs top 2 RHDs are already counting more than 11M to salary cap.

 

[Stream*]

I didn't prove your point at all. All I said is I would find room for guys like Scheifele and Laine. I wouldn't swap out one of our young cost controlled forwards for Little or Wheeler. I don't want Buff. Thanks for being so clueless that I was able to school you without even thinking about it. You proved this when you claimed you'd rather have the Winnipeg roster over NYR. I'm assuming you're just going to drop your stupid point about the Rangers bringing players in over 30, because you got taken to the woodshed on that one. Clueless and delusional.

Find room and move cost controled for Wheeler? Now that is delusional and if you ask anyone if your lack of hockey knowledge. I bring up my point and you point out St Louis....Glass...and make up some excuses. Then say Hank is an up and comer. Your D is all over 30 years old. No wonder you are excited about Skjei, he is the only one that doesnt use a cane to walk. I hear you could still get Jagr back.

You stick with your aging players....I will stick with my team that is the second youngest in the league.

 

[Hire Sather]

Find room and move cost controled for Wheeler? Now that is delusional and if you ask anyone if your lack of hockey knowledge. I bring up my point and you point out St Louis....Glass...and make up some excuses. Then say Hank is an up and comer. Your D is all over 30 years old. No wonder you are excited about Skjei, he is the only one that doesnt use a cane to walk. I hear you could still get Jagr back.

You stick with your aging players....I will stick with my team that is the second youngest in the league.

Aging players

Stepan, Kreider, Zib, Miller, Vesey, Hayes, Buch all still young or about to enter their primes. Zucc still only 29. McDonagh about to enter his prime.

Girardi is a bit of an issue but Staal has looked good this year and it's not like hes 36 years old

Lots of playoff wins in this group and most of them still in their primes. Enjoy your long rebuild plan over there without any actual success

By the way I'd love to get Jagr back. Or I did until this year, our depth is just too strong now. You know you can't win with an entire roster of prospects.. veteran leadership here and there isn't the worst thing in the world.

 

[Gump Hasek]

Aging players

Stepan, Kreider, Zib, Miller, Vesey, Hayes, Buch all still young or about to enter their primes. Zucc still only 29. McDonagh about to enter his prime.

Girardi is a bit of an issue but Staal has looked good this year and it's not like hes 36 years old

Lots of playoff wins in this group and most of them still in their primes. Enjoy your long rebuild plan over there without any actual success

By the way I'd love to get Jagr back. Or I did until this year, our depth is just too strong now. You know you can't with an entire roster of prospects.. veteran leadership here and there isn't the worst thing in the world.

The Rangers are an old team reliant upon an old goalie in a league quickly trending toward youth and speed. They have little in the pipeline and continually trade away their first round draft selections. They are so bereft of any prospects that many of their fans were actually convinced that Dylan Mcllrath held value.

Meanwhile, the Jets have been drafting diligently since 2011 and are now at the point in the cycle where many of those players are just entering the organization. Their best is yet to come, you just don't know it yet.

 

[Stream*]

Aging players

Stepan, Kreider, Zib, Miller, Vesey, Hayes, Buch all still young or about to enter their primes. Zucc still only 29. McDonagh about to enter his prime.

Girardi is a bit of an issue but Staal has looked good this year and it's not like hes 36 years old

Lots of playoff wins in this group and most of them still in their primes. Enjoy your long rebuild plan over there without any actual success

By the way I'd love to get Jagr back. Or I did until this year, our depth is just too strong now. You know you can't with an entire roster of prospects.. veteran leadership here and there isn't the worst thing in the world.

So once again you are just agreeing....aging majority over 30 (and one guy 29) Willing to take on 40 year olds but you call them prime, I call them old. What are you so mad about when you are agreeing?

 

[Hire Sather]

So once again you are just agreeing....aging majority over 30 (and one guy 29) Willing to take on 40 year olds but you call them prime, I call them old. What are you so made about when you are agreeing?

what the hell am I agreeing about?

Are the players aging? I mean, sure. We are all aging. We age every day.

You are talking like the Rangers have an old roster. I just named a bunch of players in their mid 20s or younger that are the core of our team. What the hell are you talking about?

"majority over 30" what?

you know how many players over 30 will be in the Rangers starting lineup tonight? 2. TWO. (Hank not starting, so usually its 3) You are lawst, just lawst.

 

[Hire Sather]

The Rangers are an old team reliant upon an old goalie in a league quickly trending toward youth and speed. They have little in the pipeline and continually trade away their first round draft selections. They are so bereft of any prospects that many of their fans were actually convinced that Dylan Mcllrath held value.

Meanwhile, the Jets have been drafting diligently since 2011 and are now at the point in the cycle where many of those players are just entering the organization. Their best is yet to come, you just don't know it yet.

rofl

do you guys even look at the roster? like, at all? youth and speed.. we're one of the fastest teams in the league...

Its amazing how we can trade away first round picks and still have a great core of young players. We add Buch and Vesey to the lineup this year and they fit like a glove. Skjei becoming a fulltime player this year and looking better every night. All while dominating games and being atop our division early on.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

The Rangers are an old team reliant upon an old goalie in a league quickly trending toward youth and speed. They have little in the pipeline and continually trade away their first round draft selections. They are so bereft of any prospects that many of their fans were actually convinced that Dylan Mcllrath held value.

Meanwhile, the Jets have been drafting diligently since 2011 and are now at the point in the cycle where many of those players are just entering the organization. Their best is yet to come, you just don't know it yet.

I think the Rangers understand their own organization more than some random drive-by poster from Winnipeg.

 

[Gump Hasek]

rofl

do you guys even look at the roster? like, at all? youth and speed.. we're one of the fastest teams in the league...

Its amazing how we can trade away first round picks and still have a great core of young players. We add Buch and Vesey to the lineup this year and they fit like a glove. Skjei becoming a fulltime player this year and looking better every night. All while dominating games and being atop our division early on.

Zzzzzzz.

Nothing in the Rangers pipeline, nothing. Old goalie, old lineup, meh.

Meanwhile, the Jets issue over the past few years has been a lack of depth. Last night they beat the Red Wings however despite playing the second-consecutive night on the road and missing 8 regulars from the lineup, including 3 of their top-6 D and 5 of their top-9 forwards. The long rebuild plan you were mocking is just coming to fruition. The Jets are just getting started.

 

[Hire Sather]

Zzzzzzz.

Nothing in the Rangers pipeline, nothing. Old goalie, old lineup, meh.

Meanwhile, the Jets issue over the past few years has been a lack of depth. Last night they beat the Red Wings however despite playing the second-consecutive night on the road and missing 8 regulars from the lineup, including 3 of their top-6 D and 5 of their top-9 forwards. The long rebuild plan you were mocking is just coming to fruition. The Jets are just getting started.

Congrats if that ends up being the case. Meanwhile the Rangers have been a playoff team since 2005 and a cup contender every season since 2012. Now we've turned the roster over a bit and still look to be a very good team the most of which is in their mid 20s. Congrats on that road win in Detroit though, real sign of things turning around!

You could've said last year there's nothing in the Rangers pipeline. Here we are this year with Buch, Vesey and Skjei stepping in and becoming solid contributors to the team. All the Rangers have done the last decade is develop players and have tremendous success at the pro level. Some of them have been traded off as they become too difficult to afford in the cap era, some are still here, some are just starting.

Meanwhile your organization hasn't won one playoff game throughout that entire time period.

 

[Snowman]

And that matters why/how? The moment he's under contract JT/his agent cannot talk to other teams. Neither does JT have any control over things until his current contract expires - which only happens if he plays it out.

The point you fail to understand is that it doesn't matter if JT can talk to anyone after he signs as he already has through his agent. So, every team in the league already knows if JT will re-up with them, once again limiting trade partners.

Therefore, I think the Jets will really only want a long term deal. It's the best way to open up trading options.

 

[wintersej]

I like this deal as a Jets fan, maybe Carolina needs to add something going to Colorado?

Expansion exempt / ELC contract Hanafin holds more value than Trouba. Jets would need to send something to Colorado.

 

[Confucius]

Expansion exempt / ELC contract Hanafin holds more value than Trouba. Jets would need to send something to Colorado.

If I was Winnipeg I'd be gun shy on accepting Hanafin.
Fool me once....

 

[KGL]

At this point I'm honestly expecting Trouba to just sign a one or two year deal with the Jets and get back on the ice. Seems like Chevy isn't going to cave and I doubt Trouba wants to sit out for an entire year.

 

[Confucius]

At this point I'm honestly expecting Trouba to just sign a one or two year deal with the Jets and get back on the ice. Seems like Chevy isn't going to cave and I doubt Trouba wants to sit out for an entire year.

Was he offered a 1 or 2 year deal? I think he'll be sitting out this season.

 

[SCP Guy]

Was he offered a 1 or 2 year deal? I think he'll be sitting out this season.

He wasn't offered anything because they won't negotiate.... According to his agent

 

[larmex99]

Was he offered a 1 or 2 year deal? I think he'll be sitting out this season.

Doubtful, but I could see a 1 year low ball contract to facilitate a trade window. 2 years? Never. That would just get him to arbitration and diminish his trade value to any team not on his wish list. Four or five years is more likely, but still a crap shoot for both.