Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VII

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Is Montreal still in Canada?

Yup so it's a no go from the Trouba camp.

 

[Hunter368]

IMO what both sides are saying or said needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Everything is posturing and negotiating up until the deal is done. Way too much speculation now, sooner wait to see how it unfolds.

I could see scenario where Trouba sits, traded or signed.....just too many possibilities now to speculate.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Trade Trouba in a deal for RNH

And what part of Edmonton being in Canada isn't being understood.

Dreger already said that Edmonton and Toronto are no goes for TroubA he wont commit to either. And Little will be back so why would Chevy be interested in RNH at $6 million per pretty sure he can do better.

It would take at least Klefbom to get Trouba, And i personally doubt that Klefbom would be included in a deal for Trouba. So Trouba isn't happening for Edmonton and i thought like it sounded that Edmonton wasn't really all the high on Trouba any ways.

Bottom line is that Trouba has zero desire to play in Canada, He wants to play in the States so wishing him to Canada isn't going to happen. I think Trouba might eventually be dealt to a Northeastern team maybe the Rangers, Bruins, Philly who've the pieces to land him.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

It would be a lot easier for Edmonton to flip Trouba for an RHD than Winnipeg for an LHD, especially since the Oilers would likely be interested in a wider range of ages and skillsets than the Jets purportedly are.

Really, pick a right-handed defender signed for more than one year who can quarterback a powerplay and that's a player who can help the Oilers. That list is probably bigger than "bluechip young D who is Trouba's mirror image".

Bottom line is that it would be stipulated in any contract with Winnipeg, That Trouba wont be dealt to a Canadian team. So Trouba wont be dealt to Edmonton period so flipping Trouba to another team to get a decent RHD in return to Edmonton will never happen and wishing it so isn't realistic.

So fans from Canadian team can keep proposing Trouba trades to their teams, But it's not a realistic possibility. I can see Trouba willing to play for any American team and that still helps Cheveldayoff get a decent return. Even though i think his heart is more close to playing as close to home as possible. Any ways Trouba to any Canadian team isn't going to happen and wishing it to happen isn't going to happen.

 

[Rick74*]

Edmonton = Canada

exactly this.


the little deva wants out of canada.

 

[SCP Guy]

Edmonton is about as far away from where he wants to be .

I'm fine with sending him there lol

Just don't send a limo to the airport waiting for him....could be a while

 

[One Winged Angel]

Horrible, again.

 

[Hire Sather]

Obviously the answer to who will want him , with the fact there are VII threads about him, is pretty will everyone. I do like you if if if story though. There are only so many young quality dmen like Trouba available in the NHL. The fact that the Jets can't find anyone that is willing to give up an equal left handed version show they are even less available. You keep hoping for your blossoming skjei player though. The fact that Brendan Kitchen is a better prospect with higher results, and he hasn't even had a sniff at the NHL...tells me a lot.

You really should brush up on your Googling skills. The Jets are the second youngest team average (25.75) in the league just behind Buffalo. They are over 1 years younger on average than the Rangers (26.887).

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams?year=2017

You should also learn to Google "Jets team roster" and you would find we also have....Schiefele, Little, Buff, Myers, Enstrom along with the 3 you mentioned who with out even looking would jump right in as 8 of the top players on the Rangers...and counting Trouba...that makes 9. That is if they could beat out Tanner Glass....doesn't he still play for you guys?

If you want people to take you seriously, you really should provide facts instead of spewing out the crap your are posting instead of just throwing out your random opinion. Basing your reputation on incorrect information just makes you look foolish. Google only has one field and one button.... master that, then come back and tell us how no one wants Trouba.

ROFL, freaking delusional. Your comment earlier about "The Rangers only bringing in guys over 30" are you living in 2002?

It's amazing how Jets fans hype up their roster.. Your team stinks man and it has for years now. When is that development going to come? Yeah a guy who hasn't made the NHL at 24 has "higher results" and is a better prospect than Skjei who is becoming a regular on a contending team at 22. Keep hoping for your prospects.

Can do whatever you like to play with the number averages but the fact is the Rangers core skaters are very young or are in their primes. Your perception of the Rangers is over a decade dated. Rangers haven't been that in a long time. Not since the 04 lockout.

This is coming from someone who likes the Jets and 100% agree with how they are handling the Trouba situation. Let him sit, he's made his bed.

 

[Stream*]

Are you really trying to say the Jets roster is better than the NYR? That's what it sounds like to me. Very much like....how did you word it....random crap spewing opinion. Something like that.

I forgot, you have no need for any of NYRs players because your team is so good.

I am very happy with where the Jets are right now compared with the Rangers and going forward I will take the players that the Jets have every time.

As for the spewing crap, are you somehow agreeing that the extra 6 players that I listed would not step right in to the lineup? Not to mention the made up story about the Rangers being younger than the Jets and the excuse of NYR having 3 rookies in the lineup when the Jets have 5 now. What part are you disputing?

 

[JetsHomer]

If you want Trouba+Ehlers your looking at starting the deal with Sergachev and Galchenyuk

 

[Hire Sather]

I am very happy with where the Jets are right now compared with the Rangers and going forward I will take the players that the Jets have every time.

As for the spewing crap, are you somehow agreeing that the extra 6 players that I listed would not step right in to the lineup? Not to mention the made up story about the Rangers being younger than the Jets and the excuse of NYR having 3 rookies in the lineup when the Jets have 5 now. What part are you disputing?

I would not be jumping to have Little replace anyone in our top 6, same for Buff really when you factor in his contract

I mean its kind of an odd question. You named a bunch of NHL calibre players. Could they fit into our lineup? Sure. But it's not like we have a bunch of holes and cap wise it would be hard to make it work. We'd find room for Schifile but would we move contracts and young players on ELCs or bridge contracts to fit Little? Or Buff? No. You are trying to make it sound like the Jets have a better roster, which they flat out do not and its a bit laughable to suggest that they do.

 

[SCP Guy]

I would consider Skjei and a 1st for Trouba and a small add.... Don't see how that works cap wise unless Trouba signs a bridge since I don't think NYR can do 5.5 and I'm not taking a contract back in this deal

 

[JetsHomer]

Edmonton = Canada

This is exactly why it makes NO sense to trade Trouba until he relents on his demands and signs a contract that allows him to be moved to any team in the league.

If I was Chevy I would simply tell them that no contract = no trade

 

[Stream*]

ROFL, freaking delusional. Your comment earlier about "The Rangers only bringing in guys over 30" are you living in 2002?

It's amazing how Jets fans hype up their roster.. Your team stinks man and it has for years now. When is that development going to come? Yeah a guy who hasn't made the NHL at 24 has "higher results" and is a better prospect than Skjei who is becoming a regular on a contending team at 22. Keep hoping for your prospects.

Can do whatever you like to play with the number averages but the fact is the Rangers core skaters are very young or are in their primes. Your perception of the Rangers is over a decade dated. Rangers haven't been that in a long time. Not since the 04 lockout.

This is coming from someone who likes the Jets and 100% agree with how they are handling the Trouba situation. Let him sit, he's made his bed.

How is showing a list of average ages "skewing" the numbers? Was 2004 the year that you brought in Marty St Louis? Tanner Glass was a rookie when you brought him in? Traded for Yandle? Seems like your youth movement is was a decafe ago if thats how you define it. 2004 just like a few years ago, but that's when you said all these things happened. So keep laughing at having you eyes shut.

 

[bleuetbio]

This proposal is everything but what the GM actually tries hard....

There's no way to trade leadership for prima donna and undersize man (no offense to Ehlers... like him a lot)

 

[Hire Sather]

Considering all the Winnipeg bashing going on in this **** show thread, I'd like reiterate that the big problem with Trouba's approach is not so much that he asked to be traded from Winnipeg, but rather that he appears to be trying to dictate where he can and cannot be traded to. Assuming those reports are true, THAT is where the serious devaluation comes from.

And that is where my frustration comes from. You want a trade? Sure, let's open it up to 29 other teams and take the best offer.

Do you Trouba apologists not see this? Should Chevy just bend over and take anything he can get from whoever Trouba "allows" him to deal with?

I mean, ****, people are complaining that Chevy's not doing anything when it's been reported that he had a deal in place and the Trouba camp said they wouldn't sign there. If that's true, then I have no idea how you can have an issue with Chevy playing hardball back. It's dumbfounding.

This pretty much nails it

 

[KingBogo]

Pacioretty + Beaulieu

vs

Trouba + Ehlers

At least try to offer something the other fan base would have even a remote chance of being interested in.

 

[SCP Guy]

Considering all the Winnipeg bashing going on in this **** show thread, I'd like reiterate that the big problem with Trouba's approach is not so much that he asked to be traded from Winnipeg, but rather that he appears to be trying to dictate where he can and cannot be traded to. Assuming those reports are true, THAT is where the serious devaluation comes from.

And that is where my frustration comes from. You want a trade? Sure, let's open it up to 29 other teams and take the best offer.

Do you Trouba apologists not see this? Should Chevy just bend over and take anything he can get from whoever Trouba "allows" him to deal with?

I mean, ****, people are complaining that Chevy's not doing anything when it's been reported that he had a deal in place and the Trouba camp said they wouldn't sign there. If that's true, then I have no idea how you can have an issue with Chevy playing hardball back. It's dumbfounding.

This people !!!!! Read slowly if you have comprehension problems... Read it two or three times if you are really thick!

As an RFA you have the right not to sign... You don't have the right to say I'm only going to these few teams... If that is the case then RFA and UFA is the same dam thing??

 

[Hire Sather]

How is showing a list of average ages "skewing" the numbers? Was 2004 the year that you brought in Marty St Louis? Tanner Glass was a rookie when you brought him in? Traded for Yandle? Seems like your youth movement is was a decafe ago if thats how you define it. 2004 just like a few years ago, but that's when you said all these things happened. So keep laughing at having you eyes shut.

Yeah, you said it as if the Rangers are still known for bringing in aging vets.

We brought in MSL for a guy who was asking for way too money for what he was worth. I'd rather have MSL for 2 years, one of which he was a big part of a cup run and lose the two first round picks than have Callahan for the contract he is at right now.

Yandle was 28 when we traded for him.

Mentioning a 4th line forward in Tanner Glass is just laughable. Yeah we're so known for bringing in guys over 30 because we paid one 1.5 mill for 3 years to play on our 4th line. Wow, old old Rangers. He's in the minors now, by the way.

Rangers have been developing players AND contending for years now. Stepan, McDonagh, Kreider, Miller. Staal and Girardi were developed and have been part of great playoff runs even if G is on a downside now. Not to mention Hank who has lead this team since the lockout.

Guys we have traded like Dubinsky and AA. Hagelin. Plenty of others. All while contending for the playoffs every year and being a cup contender some of those years. We do this and contiune to bring youth into our roster and develop players despite trading our first round picks all the time.

Meanwhile the Jets keep talking about the youth movement and waiting. 0 playoff wins. It's coming, I'm sure.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Considering all the Winnipeg bashing going on in this **** show thread, I'd like reiterate that the big problem with Trouba's approach is not so much that he asked to be traded from Winnipeg, but rather that he appears to be trying to dictate where he can and cannot be traded to. Assuming those reports are true, THAT is where the serious devaluation comes from.

And that is where my frustration comes from. You want a trade? Sure, let's open it up to 29 other teams and take the best offer.

Do you Trouba apologists not see this? Should Chevy just bend over and take anything he can get from whoever Trouba "allows" him to deal with?

I mean, ****, people are complaining that Chevy's not doing anything when it's been reported that he had a deal in place and the Trouba camp said they wouldn't sign there. If that's true, then I have no idea how you can have an issue with Chevy playing hardball back. It's dumbfounding.

First off all i heard on the matter, Is that Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada period. That's like 7 teams no mention that he wouldn't play for any American team so that's like 23 teams that more then likely he's willing to play for. So i disagree that Trouba's camp is dictating where he wants to play if he wants to play for any American club then so be it. But i'm sorry i don't see wanting out of Canada dictating where Trouba wants to play there's nothing out there suggesting that he wouldn't agree to sign with any of the 23 American teams out there so Trouba isn't necessarily dictating where he'll play other then Canada isn't part of it.

 

[funky]

This pretty much nails it

I feel for Winnipeg fans and Trouba is only hurting himself. The longer he stays away the worse game shape he will be and the more spoiled he looks.

Yes he looks like he will be a good defenceman but he hasn't proven he is worth the long term money he is rumoured to want and he hasn't been in the league long enough to dictate anything. If a guy like Doughty, Crosby, Price asks for a trade and threatens to hold out that is different.

Don't get me wrong, I like Troubas game and would love him in L.A as he fills a huge need on our second pairing but I don't like how he and his agent have held Winnipeg hostage.

If you want a trade, sign a dec not bridge deal, get out there and prove you are as good as you think and stop handcuffing your GM. Time got a new agent to talk some sense into that kid.

 

[KingBogo]

I feel for Winnipeg fans and Trouba is only hurting himself. The longer he stays away the worse game shape he will be and the more spoiled he looks.

Yes he looks like he will be a good defenceman but he hasn't proven he is worth the long term money he is rumoured to want and he hasn't been in the league long enough to dictate anything. If a guy like Doughty, Crosby, Price asks for a trade and threatens to hold out that is different.

Don't get me wrong, I like Troubas game and would love him in L.A as he fills a huge need on our second pairing but I don't like how he and his agent have held Winnipeg hostage.

If you want a trade, sign a dec not bridge deal, get out there and prove you are as good as you think and stop handcuffing your GM. Time got a new agent to talk some sense into that kid.

This exactly. You sign a 6 year deal in the well established price range and start playing hockey. You prove you a top pairing RHD and Chevy gets a trade offer he is willing to accept. Worst case scenario you are a UFA at age 28 in the heart of your prime and you call all your own shots for a big ticket deal.

 

[broc]

I would consider Skjei and a 1st for Trouba and a small add.... Don't see how that works cap wise unless Trouba signs a bridge since I don't think NYR can do 5.5 and I'm not taking a contract back in this deal

That's fine, b/c Skjei and a 1st isn't at all close to a deal for Trouba (let alone the jets making "a small add")...

 

[Jetsetter]

This post needs to be cut off. Jets break the phone from slamming it down after hearing the proposal. Laughable

 

[SCP Guy]

That's fine, b/c Skjei and a 1st isn't at all close to a deal for Trouba (let alone the jets making "a small add")...

Ahhh crap I just looked and Skjei is not expansion draft exempt .... Nevermind then... I thought he was drafted in Morrissey's draft year

I would take an expansion draft exempt LHD and a first ... Skjei Missed the cut by a year booooo