Proposal: Trouba Mega thread Part V

[Hunter368]

Man what's with all these salty comments? Let it go people, we're here discussing Trouba trade offers.

I don't care what team he gets traded to, assuming he even gets traded. Leafs? Sure don't matter to me, make our games even more fun.

Big problem with a possible Leaf trade, I'm not sure they have anything Chevy wants, that is available. Gardiner....i don't think so. Everything else of value to the Jets isn't what we want or isn't available.

 

[tempest2i]

Trouba not signing is not about money he wants to play right side that is all I believe. I find it hard to believe with everyone looking for a right side Dman the Jets can't trade him for a left side Dman? You'd think teams be lining up sending quality left Dman offers???

I would not be surprised if the Jets have received multiple offers for Trouba that included left shooting Dmen.

I'd be very surprised if any of those offers included quality players because there's no reason for any of the other 29 GMs to help the Jets get out of this situation.

This is a problem that needs to be solved between Trouba and the Jets. Expecting a white knight to show up and offer the Jets a spectacular player for Trouba, especially after all this time, appears to be very is unrealistic. The Jets have all the leverage when it comes signing Trouba and none of the leverage when it comes to trading Trouba.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Yeah, I'm sure Friedge really wants to maximize the return for the Jets, while Cheveldayoff just wants to see a trade already because they make for good headlines.



Trouba spoke with reporters multiple times over the offseason and maintained that he was excited about signing with the Jets. That there was 'no doubt in his mind' that he'd be on the Jets' roster in training camp.



Using your examples, Rielly's overpaid.

Your point? Because I think you just made mine: don't believe what parties say publicly when they are talking about negotiations.

 

[Killer Orcas]

I would not be surprised if the Jets have received multiple offers for Trouba that included left shooting Dmen.

I'd be very surprised if any of those offers included quality players because there's no reason for any of the other 29 GMs to help the Jets get out of this situation.

I see your point however if team trading with Jets is receiving Trouba a right Dman which is valued more then a equal left handed counter part because of supply and demand how are they not helping themselves as well?

Here's a example proposal from me. Trouba for Fowler of Ducks and then Ducks can flip Trouba for whatever they like as a Right Dman worth more in trade market? Fowler solves Jets left Dman issue and is a capable replacement for Trouba??

 

[tempest2i]

I see your point however if team trading with Jets is receiving Trouba a right Dman which is valued more then a equal left handed counter part because of supply and demand how are they not helping themselves as well?

Here's a example proposal from me. Trouba for Fowler of Ducks and then Ducks can flip Trouba for whatever they like as a Right Dman worth more in trade market? Fowler solves Jets left Dman issue and is a capable replacement for Trouba??

The issue is two sided, and Fowler is a great example.

On one side you have the Jets, who are going to want a player better/younger/signed longer than Fowler for Trouba.

One the other side you have a Ducks, who don't want to trade a player as important to their team as Fowler is for Trouba.

 

[Killer Orcas]

The issue is two sided, and Fowler is a great example.

On one side you have the Jets, who are going to want a player better/young/signed longer than Fowler for Trouba.

One the other side you have a Ducks, who don't want to trade a player as important to their team as Fowler is for Trouba.

Yes Fowler was just an example but your correct everybody wants to come out ahead. Just feel Jets are waiting to long but who knows maybe offers suck. Bad situation for Jets they could really use the asset from Trouba right now.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

According to Dreger on TSN, the Jets have offered 6x$5.5 and the Trouba camp could not care less.

 

[Snowman]

I'd be very surprised if any of those offers included quality players because there's no reason for any of the other 29 GMs to help the Jets get out of this situation.

I think you've got that backwards, the Jets have no reason to do the 29 other GM's a favor and help them out by trading Trouba for less than he's worth. They don't like the price, too bad we'll keep him then.

 

[doubledown99]

On Insider trading Darren Dreger just confirmed that the Trouba camp does not see a fit with any Canadian team. The Insiders said there has been interest from Cdn teams but Trouba and his agent don't see a fit and want to play in the US

 

[aj8000]

Man what's with all these salty comments? Let it go people, we're here discussing Trouba trade offers.

The same offers keep reappearing and the same responses from Jets fans.

What we are hearing is the Jets have not moved from their position of equal value for Trouba. The Jets will do what is best for the Jets. Trouba will eventually have a choice to sign or sit since the Jets will not trade the negotiating rights for Trouba unless a team meets their price.

There is little point of making offers for Trouba that do not follow the equal D requirement that has been set out.

Considering most fans will not offer up their top D, we are stuck in this endless loop of proposals and Jets fans saying no and this will continue until the mods decide to lock it up.

 

[aj8000]

According to Dreger on TSN, the Jets have offered 6x$5.5 and the Trouba camp could not care less.

If that is true, I guess he will be sitting for a long time.

 

[tempest2i]

I think you've got that backwards, the Jets have no reason to do the 29 other GM's a favor and help them out by trading Trouba for less than he's worth. They don't like the price, too bad we'll keep him then.

29 other GMs lose nothing if Trouba sits at home refusing to play for the Jets.

 

[aj8000]

29 other GMs lose nothing if Trouba sits at home refusing to play for the Jets.

And the Jets are no worse off either since they do not have his services anyways. If anything, Trouba has done the Jets a favor by forcing Morressy to the top line. We will see if he takes the step or not.

 

[tempest2i]

And the Jets are no worse off either since they do not have his services anyways. If anything, Trouba has done the Jets a favor by forcing Morressy to the top line. We will see if he takes the step or not.

The Jets are no worse off?

Come on now, they're near the bottom of the standings and have one of the worst goal differentials in the league.

 

[doubledown99]

If that is true, I guess he will be sitting for a long time.

I can confirm that is what the Insiders said on the segment. 6 yrs for $5.5. Trouba has no interest in signing that deal (is how they reported it). And no interest in cdn teams

 

[Randal61]

If that is true, I guess he will be sitting for a long time.

And so he should

 

[Hunter368]

The same offers keep reappearing and the same responses from Jets fans.

What we are hearing is the Jets have not moved from their position of equal value for Trouba. The Jets will do what is best for the Jets. Trouba will eventually have a choice to sign or sit since the Jets will not trade the negotiating rights for Trouba unless a team meets their price.

There is little point of making offers for Trouba that do not follow the equal D requirement that has been set out.

Considering most fans will not offer up their top D, we are stuck in this endless loop of proposals and Jets fans saying no and this will continue until the mods decide to lock it up.

IMO Chevy is trying to get his biggest need, LHD. Will he changed his demands and accept BPA (which would be a very good forward) or will Trouba decide to come crawling back and sign a deal or will he sit the entire year?

Time will tell. At this point I'm ok with any solution including sitting out the entire year, this still has some benefits to the jets. Yes I'm a STH for the jets and I'm ok letting him sit all year.....we will benefit down the road. Clearly best option is a similar top pairing LHD that's young.....but that's hard to find. I'm ok with BPA also b/c player coming back to us would be a very good young forward....top liner.

 

[SCP Guy]

As a rfa he has zero say... So I would be more then happy with Chevy if he burns a year for Trouba... Then maybe he will broaden his destinations after he loses 5 mil

But j thought it was about playing the right side Overfart ? Lol liars

 

[Hunter368]

I can confirm that is what the Insiders said on the segment. 6 yrs for $5.5. Trouba has no interest in signing that deal (is how they reported it). And no interest in cdn teams

No biggie, that's what we've been saying for a while now, no Canadian teams. USA bound.....that's ok

 

[aj8000]

The Jets are no worse off?

Come on now, they're near the bottom of the standings and have one of the worst goal differentials in the league.

and??

 

[aj8000]

IMO Chevy is trying to get his biggest need, LHD. Will he changed his demands and accept BPA (which would be a very good forward) or will Trouba decide to come crawling back and sign a deal or will he sit the entire year?

Time will tell. At this point I'm ok with any solution including sitting out the entire year, this still has some benefits to the jets. Yes I'm a STH for the jets and I'm ok letting him sit all year.....we will benefit down the road. Clearly best option is a similar top pairing LHD that's young.....but that's hard to find. I'm ok with BPA also b/c player coming back to us would be a very good young forward....top liner.

Based on the new information..



The Jets best course of action is to let him sit out and contemplate his career.

 

[Hunter368]

The Jets are no worse off?

Come on now, they're near the bottom of the standings and have one of the worst goal differentials in the league.

Of course a player of Trouba ability would help, but very few people predicted the jets would be a playoff team with Trouba. Many of us were saying bottom 10, maybe bottom 5 team.

Now without our 2nd best D, without our #1C from last year and a 3rd liner all out due to injury or contract.....what did anyone expect????

PS I'm not even mentioning the 4 rookies and two very inexperienced goalies all playing full time roles.

Transition year, it's was stated during the summer. No biggie

 

[SCP Guy]

I think all Canadian team GMs are hoping Chevy lets him rot

 

[aj8000]

As a rfa he has zero say... So I would be more then happy with Chevy if he burns a year for Trouba... Then maybe he will broaden his destinations after he loses 5 mil

But j thought it was about playing the right side Overfart ? Lol liars

The best part is, he would still have 4 RFA years linked to Winnipeg

 

[Hunter368]

Based on the new information..



The Jets best course of action is to let him sit out and contemplate his career.

Best option? No.....but certainly the funniest one. I wouldn't hate it either if no good trades available