Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part IV

[Say What]

its 99.999999% chance trouba will not be sitting in europe for the next 4 years if he dosent do as chevy tells him to

thats as close to a fact as you can get

That's not fair. It has nothing to do with what Cheveldayoff is telling him. It's his NHL brethren (the ones he sided with on the CBA).

RFA not UFA.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I think Trouba will sign a bridge deal in November and be traded shortly after that to a team that needs a Dman. There will surely be many

I could see something like this going down as well, And then the team that trades for him can try and work out a long term deal in a year or so depending on the bridge deal 2 years and then they can work on a long term deal next summer. 3 years then a deal in 2 summers or something like that.

 

[Stej]

its 99.999999% chance trouba will not be sitting in europe for the next 4 years if he dosent do as chevy tells him to

thats as close to a fact as you can get

Wow, haha. What about actual facts? Are those closer than your example? There's no such thing as a fact spectrum. Things are either fact or they are not. Sorry to nitpick but you are destroying my native language.

 

[cneely]

he's a 2nd pairing guy. not a #2.

He may become a top pairing guy but I don't want to deal a player I view as better on a very cap friendly long term deal for a guy who has regressed statistically his last two years and wants to be paid like a #1. He is asking for Seth Jones/Risto type money most likely and he isn't as good as Jones/Risto by any means

First off, I think he's 39th in ice time in the NHL over the last three years. That's not second pairing ice time.

Secondly, Trouba has only regressed to those who look at box scores and nothing else. He's been great since he broke into the league.

 

[PsychoDad]

its 99.999999% chance trouba will not be sitting in europe for the next 4 years if he dosent do as chevy tells him to

thats as close to a fact as you can get

Are these the rules? Isn't he heading into arbitration next summer, signed contract or not?
edit: guess not, but he can sign a qualifying offer, go into arbitration next summer, sign another bridge deal and become UFA.. or not?

 

[supersonic jet]

Are these the rules? Isn't he heading into arbitration next summer, signed contract or not?

No everything remains the same

 

[Gotaf7]

emotion often gets in the way of facts, it almost always does

posters who think trouba will just be forced by Chevy to sit and rot in europe for four years are not thinking clearly, they're upset about the situation and want to "punish" trouba but that just wont ever happen

posters who think Trouba will go to whichever team Chevy tells him to are wrong, while chevy will want to be seen as setting an example and not letting a RFA dictate all the terms he isnt about to let a player into the locker room who dosent want to be there(or wont be accepted) and nor does he want to diminish the return by not moving him sooner rather than later

2 things will happen

- trouba will be asked for a list of his top choice(1-3 teams) that he would go to without a new contract or
- if a deal cant be worked out with one of those teams he will be asked to provide a list of another 2-4 teams he would go to with a new contract in place before a trade is made

LMAO! And that is a fact!

 

[mouser]

Sign and trades just don't happen in the NHL. And there's no reason for them in this case--Trouba can already talk to all of the other teams. If a team makes the Jets an offer for Trouba they've probably already discussed at least the parameters of some sort of contract, or at the very least are confident Trouba would want to sign and play for them.

Some players have sat out for a trade before signing and later being traded a la Turris. But even that wasn't a sign and trade--the Coyotes signed Turris with the intention of keeping him, before Turris forced their hand with his intentionally lackluster play.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Wow, haha. What about actual facts? Are those closer than your example? There's no such thing as a fact spectrum. Things are either fact or they are not. Sorry to nitpick but you are destroying my native language.

lol, oh come on now man

you know full well you will not be seeing trouba is a KHL uniform for the next four years

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

LMAO! And that is a fact!

yes it is

thankyou

 

[JetsHomer]

yes it is

thankyou

You seem to be confusing your desperate hopes with facts. Hmmmh I wonder why a Red Wings fan would insist a Michigan kid like Trouba will try and force a specific trade to a team

 

[DarthProbert]

I think the Jets should just openly encourage an offer sheet/Trouba signing elsewhere. Take the compensation. All they "need" is LD and obviously they're not getting the offer they want for that. They could take the compensatory picks, trade whichever of them are needed to Anaheim for Fowler, and everybody wins. Trouba gets out, Jets get something for him, Jets get LHD, Anaheim gets cap space. And somebody gets Trouba. Win-win-win.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

You seem to be confusing your desperate hopes with facts. Hmmmh I wonder why a Red Wings fan would insist a Michigan kid like Trouba will try and force a specific trade to a team

I will say this with 100% honesty, I DO NOT think Trouba ends up in detroit

I really really dont

but i think he has WAY more say then most Jets fans think or wish to believe

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Toronto and Arizona the finalists for Trouba

Every bodies favourite hockey blogger is "reporting" that it's down to Toronto and Arizona for Jacob Trouba. Asa?eaf fan I have to say I am not sold on Trouba as a top pair D so if we eventually do end up with him I hope the price is reasonable

I have no doubt he can be top 4 but the jets seem to want a price more suited for a top pair guy and I haven't seen that out of Trouba yet maybe he can get there but he isn't there now.

I personally am almost hoping he goes to Arizona because the price scares me.

 

[dubplatepressure]

If only there was a Trouba thread...

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Every bodies favourite hockey blogger is "reporting" that it's down to Toronto and Arizona for Jacob Trouba. Asa?eaf fan I have to say I am not sold on Trouba as a top pair D so if we eventually do end up with him I hope the price is reasonable

I have no doubt he can be top 4 but the jets seem to want a price more suited for a top pair guy and I haven't seen that out of Trouba yet maybe he can get there but he isn't there now.

I personally am almost hoping he goes to Arizona because the price scares me.

This was what i was reporting on the Trouba thread awhile back, just haven't learned yet how to post these yet. Trouba to Toronto or Arizona would make some sense both have the pieces to land him no one can deny that. But since it's Eklund he wont be going to either one.

 

[Hunter368]

I think the Jets should just openly encourage an offer sheet/Trouba signing elsewhere. Take the compensation. All they "need" is LD and obviously they're not getting the offer they want for that. They could take the compensatory picks, trade whichever of them are needed to Anaheim for Fowler, and everybody wins. Trouba gets out, Jets get something for him, Jets get LHD, Anaheim gets cap space. And somebody gets Trouba. Win-win-win.

Landing fowler while losing Trouba is far from a win for the jets

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This was what i was reporting on the Trouba thread awhile back, just haven't learned yet how to post these yet. Trouba to Toronto or Arizona would make some sense both have the pieces to land him no one can deny that. But since it's Eklund he wont be going to either one.

We have the pieces to land any player that hits the market I am just not sure how many of those pieces I want to send on a guy that I am not convinced is a top pair guy

When I can go get Cam Fowler for a cheaper cost and a cheaper cap hit and he might be a better player.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

If only there was a Trouba thread...

There is

This one..,,

 

[Guffman]

With Morrissey playing so well, I wonder if the Jets would consider a higher end LD prospect (obviously with a pretty substantial '+' attached) instead of an established NHLer, to be ready for when Enstrom is done. Not sure who on the rumored teams would fit the criteria. Maybe Zboril + 1st from Boston? Or Sanheim/Morin + 1st from Philly?

Assuming that Trouba isn't going to buckle, of course.

Cruising through pages of nonsense, but hit your post and generally agree. After seeing Morrissey for a couple months, perhaps Checy would be more comfortable going down that avenue.

 

[SB84]

Hoping he goes to Arizona. Don't want the Leafs to give up a lot for him.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Hoping he goes to Arizona. Don't want the Leafs to give up a lot for him.

I feel the same way

 

[XX]

Don't think he's worth the assets to upgrade on Stone or Murphy, plus the cost of his contract. The price would have to be very right.

 

[cneely]

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ilter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame

39th over the last 3 years in ice time per game.
He was 19, 20 and 21. He's already a top 2 defenceman.

 

[crowi]

You could use the Trouba thread..............