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Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part IV

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Number1RedWingsFan52

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gdsmack267 said:
I could see a Maatta and Trouba swap making sense but it leaves the Pens left side pretty weak. If they ever let Pouilot play and develop I can see Pens making that move.
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Doubt that JR could do a Maatta for Trouba swap, Considering that Maatta is making slightly more then $4 million per and Trouba will be seeking around at least $5.5 million per long term. Without sending a little more cap as i doubt they would have the funds to sign Trouba though a Maatta for Trouba deal does make some sense here.
 
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Zetterberg4Captain said:
honest question, do YOU believe he will be traded before Dec 1st or not?

if yes, name names on player returns you can HONESTLY see happening

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Question was not for me but I will answer.... I think he signs a bridge in late November after he realizes Jets won't blink!
 
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Perfect fit for the Rangers who desperately need a young RH defenseman. I haven't seen much of Trouba so I won't try to gauge exact trade value, but some players that would be available might be Miller/Kreider/Skjei/Mcilrath ... perhaps a forward and a defenseman? The Rangers could then use Trouba on the first or second pairing. Of course, it would all be predicated on the idea of the Rangers feeling that they could at some point move or buyout Staal or Girardi in order to keep Trouba at expansion time.
 
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Zetterberg4Captain said:
honest question, do YOU believe he will be traded before Dec 1st or not?

if yes, name names on player returns you can HONESTLY see happening

go...
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Nah I don't see him getting traded before Dec 1st. Only way that happens is if a teams MO changes based on injuries.

I think he will either sign and play until a suitable trade is found, or he will sit the year.

Chevy is a very patient man and he holds all the cards in this scenario. The only way Trouba gets traded is if it's in the best interest of the Jets. What's the Jets best interest? Getting a comparable 2nd line LD. Who's available that fits that criteria? That's a pretty short list.

If he does get traded, here's a few scenarios I can see taking place.

If things fall out between Anaheim and Lindhold:
Trouba+ for Lindholm

If the Rangers decide to get younger:
Trouba for Mcdonagh

If the Jets want to clean their hand while getting value:
Trouba for Gardiner +
Trouba for Krug +
Trouba for *insert Philly LD prospect here*

Also, if Little is out long term:
Trouba for RNH

There are probably more but I think I did alright.

There are a tonne of different scenarios that can play out.
We have no idea which one if going to happen at this point.

One thing we do know, and this is the one rock solid truth in all of this, is that Chevy is going to do what is in the best interest of the Winnipeg Jets.
 
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4 Goals Matthews said:
And it still isnt logical at all considering the guy you claim is a bottom pair plays on Anaheims top pair, which is one of the best defenses in the league, and Fowler is what 24 IIRC?
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I absolutely never said that.

4 Goals Matthews said:
And perhaps some folks dont even want Trouba because he wants so much money whereas you get Fowler for two years before having to get to that step. That means something in the cap world.
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The Jets are sitting pretty when it comes to the cap so any benefit he brings there is essentially null and void to us.

Nobody knows what Trouba wants money wise at this point. The only thing we know for sure is that he wants out of Winnipeg.

Sure you get 2 more years of Fowler before you have to pay even more but the key thing there is that he will be a UFA and can sign with any team. We have then traded away a very valuable player coming off his ELC for only 2 years of Fowlers service. That's atrocious asset management for a team in our position. If we had a 2 year window to make a run, sure, but we are just starting to poke our heads into that territory and, with our youth, we expect that door to be open for quite some time.

As for "And perhaps some folks dont even want Trouba".....well....I mean...that's fine. Nobody is forcing a team to trade for Trouba. Lots have teams have been calling because he's a valuable commodity. A commodity that, in a similar instance, just returned one of top LW's in the game. Why would we not think that our comparable player could return something at least close to that value?


4 Goals Matthews said:
And as for the dmen mentioned so far; Tanev > Fowler > Maatta >= Trouba so really I dont see how Jets fans dont want Fowler but then expect a piece even better than him!
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Your views on who's better are your own. I take player growth into account as well. It's like saying Fowler > Provorov. In reality, Provorov has a tonne of potential that increases his value past Fowler.

Go tell Philly to make that trade. I'll have the bandaids ready for when you get back. :laugh:

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Should be interesting to see what Chev does
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This is one thing we do agree on.
 

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GoJetsGo55 said:
Nah I don't see him getting traded before Dec 1st. Only way that happens is if a teams MO changes based on injuries.

I think he will either sign and play until a suitable trade is found, or he will sit the year.

Chevy is a very patient man and he holds all the cards in this scenario. The only way Trouba gets traded is if it's in the best interest of the Jets. What's the Jets best interest? Getting a comparable 2nd line LD. Who's available that fits that criteria? That's a pretty short list.

If he does get traded, here's a few scenarios I can see taking place.

If things fall out between Anaheim and Lindhold:
Trouba+ for Lindholm

If the Rangers decide to get younger:
Trouba for Mcdonagh

If the Jets want to clean their hand while getting value:
Trouba for Gardiner +
Trouba for Krug +
Trouba for *insert Philly LD prospect here*

Also, if Little is out long term:
Trouba for RNH

There are probably more but I think I did alright.

There are a tonne of different scenarios that can play out.
We have no idea which one if going to happen at this point.

One thing we do know, and this is the one rock solid truth in all of this, is that Chevy is going to do what is in the best interest of the Winnipeg Jets.
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ok thats a solid list

I am not sure if he will be traded himself, that said, i think if he is traded it will be to a team he himself wants to go to and would sign lonterm with
 
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GoJetsGo55 said:
Nah I don't see him getting traded before Dec 1st. Only way that happens is if a teams MO changes based on injuries.

I think he will either sign and play until a suitable trade is found, or he will sit the year.

Chevy is a very patient man and he holds all the cards in this scenario. The only way Trouba gets traded is if it's in the best interest of the Jets. What's the Jets best interest? Getting a comparable 2nd line LD. Who's available that fits that criteria? That's a pretty short list.

If he does get traded, here's a few scenarios I can see taking place.

If things fall out between Anaheim and Lindhold:
Trouba+ for Lindholm

If the Rangers decide to get younger:
Trouba for Mcdonagh

If the Jets want to clean their hand while getting value:
Trouba for Gardiner +
Trouba for Krug +
Trouba for *insert Philly LD prospect here*

Also, if Little is out long term:
Trouba for RNH

There are probably more but I think I did alright.

There are a tonne of different scenarios that can play out.
We have no idea which one if going to happen at this point.

One thing we do know, and this is the one rock solid truth in all of this, is that Chevy is going to do what is in the best interest of the Winnipeg Jets.
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The Rangers are not trading their top defenseman and captian whose in his prime like McDonagh for Trouba. They are a playoff team who are going to try and compete. Packages around Gardiner or Krug might work. I'd also keep in mind that he's a hold out, and those guys rarely get packaged for an even better player like your Lindholm idea.
 
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Zetterberg4Captain said:
ok thats a solid list

I am not sure if he will be traded himself, that said, i think if he is traded it will be to a team he himself wants to go to and would sign lonterm with
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Thanks :)

I think he ultimately gets traded sooner than later. It's a weird scenario because I have no doubt that a team will want to negotiate before a trade takes place.

That means that:

1) Chevy has to like what's coming back.
2) Trouba has to agree as well.

I know Trouba has no say in where he gets traded to according to the CBA, but he can tell teams that he will only sign there for an insane amount of money. That will drive away teams that he does not want to play for. No one wants to trade for a guy and have him sit out.
 
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Barnaby said:
The Rangers are not trading their top defenseman in McDonagh for Trouba. They are a playoff team who are going to try and compete. Packages around Gardiner or Krug might work. I'd also keep in mind that he's a hold out, and those guys rarely get packaged for an even better player like your Lindholm idea.
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1) Yeah that's fair. I don't see what else the Rangers can send that fit what Chevy wants and they have been reported as being interested so...who knows?

2) The likelihood of Lindholm getting traded is slim to nill. That's why I said that it only happens in the event of a fallout between the 2. I've heard that Lindholm is only asking for 5.5 - 6 per year. That seems like a great deal for what he brings. I have no idea why he hasn't been signed yet.
 
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Krug isn't going anywhere.

How about Spooner + McAvoy + McQuaid (cap reasons)?
 
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To Jets:

McNabb (LD)
Clifford (LW)
Lewis (C)
Lintuneimi (LD, prospect)
2nd round pick (2017)


To Kings:

Trouba (RD)
Lowry (C)
+whoever Winnipeg wants to throw in......
 
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Taking a risk diving into the Trade Boards, but:

If the return from Boston doesn't include Krug, no way the Jets are interested at this time.

Pretty clear they are looking for a high impact 1 for 1, dman for dman trade at this time. No idea if they'll be able to find it.

The problem is if we believe trouba's usage requirements, and the Jets trade demands, a lot of teams will have a hole to fill on the left side.

Who is a right side dman who has had experience playing on the left? Ooops.
 
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Tom ServoMST3K said:
Who is a right side dman who has had experience playing on the left? Ooops.
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The answer there is Alec Martinez. We play him right side 'cuz we don't have enough RD. But he actually prefers the LD position and, most say, he's better at it.....
 
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Basilisk said:
To Jets:

McNabb (LD)
Clifford (LW)
Lewis (C)
Lintuneimi (LD, prospect)
2nd round pick (2017)


To Kings:

Trouba (RD)
Lowry (C)
+whoever Winnipeg wants to throw in......
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Did you forget to add something of actual value?
 
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