You may not like or want Fowler, but giving a poor evaluation is a bit much. Fowler is a top 4 D at the very least.
Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part IV
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You may not like or want Fowler, but giving a poor evaluation is a bit much. Fowler is a top 4 D at the very least.
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gdsmack267
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I could see a Maatta and Trouba swap making sense but it leaves the Pens left side pretty weak. If they ever let Pouilot play and develop I can see Pens making that move.
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Fowler trade is a bad idea for many reasons, but he's a 2nd pairing guy that does some things very good and other things poorly. He's not bottom pairing guy though.
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The Ducks have won their division 4 years in a row. In, at least, 3 of those 4 years, Fowler was the team's #1D.
Somehow he is only a second pairing guy. And even a 3rd pairing guy(!) in some people's minds. I understand being sick of Fowler being stuffed down your throats, that his basic/beginner advanced stats don't look great, and the contract differences, but this massive underrating of Fowler amongst the WPG fan base continues to fascinate me.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Winnipeg has zero use for Stoner, Losing Trouba and adding Fowler, Skjei and Stoner makes zero sense for Winnipeg. Pretty sure that Cheveldayoff would ask for Fowler and a decent high end prospect. Winnipeg has zero use for Skjei and Stoner.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Get real Sekera and his NMC for Trouba does Winnipeg no good. It would take far more then Sekera for Trouba and Nurse who's a 5/6 D man at best would be of no use for Winnipeg.
Fowler--and most other young Dmen in the west--don't get the media attention they deserve, which definitely plays a role. To those who are unaware, regardless of Winnipeg playing in the west, make no mistake: media in the east is the main source of hockey coverage for Jets fans (and western Canada). I believe this why players such as Lindholm and Fowler are undervalued.
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Skjei makes sense. I'd do Fowler+Skjei, and take Stoner back if Anaheim compensated us for it.
Facts have no place here!Jets fans are going to have to temper their expectations a bit. The Oilers aren't desperate to move any of their players unlike the jets.
Maybe; however, it is just a likely you will be surprised at the final outcome of this situation. The jets will get their value for Trouba if he is traded. I suspect that in the end, he will sign a long term deal with the Jets (since that is all he will be offered) and then he will play for the jets until a deal is made or he changes his mind about leaving.
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The Fowler things has been beaten to death time and time again.
I like Fowlers game but I have very littler interest in giving up Trouba for 2 years of Fowlers service.
From now on, whenever Fowlers name starts getting thrown around in here, just post this so we can try and skip 20 posts of the same thing
Ducks Fans: Fowler for Trouba?
Jets Fans: Fowler SUCKS!
Ducks Fans: NO HE DOESN'T!!!!
Jets Fans: YES HE DOES!!!!
Rangers Fan: Skjei?
*repeat*
I like Fowlers game but I have very littler interest in giving up Trouba for 2 years of Fowlers service.
From now on, whenever Fowlers name starts getting thrown around in here, just post this so we can try and skip 20 posts of the same thing
Ducks Fans: Fowler for Trouba?
Jets Fans: Fowler SUCKS!
Ducks Fans: NO HE DOESN'T!!!!
Jets Fans: YES HE DOES!!!!
Rangers Fan: Skjei?
*repeat*
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Yeah Fowler+Skjei would be okay, Like you said unless Anaheim compensates Winnipeg for taking the Stoner contract it would make little sense.
i still havent seen any posts from Jets fans laying out specific players they believe would be adequate return in any trouba trade
if you dont believe he will ever be traded then thats not a bad position but, if you think yes he will be traded between now and Dec you should by know be capable of coming up with a list of potential returns
if you dont believe he will ever be traded then thats not a bad position but, if you think yes he will be traded between now and Dec you should by know be capable of coming up with a list of potential returns
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Giving up Trouba and his non-existant contract for a guy with two years on his is a bad idea?
I swear not one actually logical reason for not wanting Fowler has been given in this thread thus far...
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LOL you say non-existent contract like it means something. You understand how RFA's work right? I also hope you understand that any team trading for him will be sorting out a contract before the trade.
Unless you think he's a risk to bolt to the KHL
Here's a logical reason: I don't want to give up someone coming off their ELC for someone I believe to have a lower ceiling and is only around for 2 years.
That's not a very hard concept to grasp.
LOL you say non-existent contract like it means something. You understand how RFA's work right? I also hope you understand that any team trading for him will be sorting out a contract before the trade.
Unless you think he's a risk to bolt to the KHL
Here's a logical reason: I don't want to give up someone coming off their ELC for someone I believe to have a lower ceiling and is only around for 2 years.
That's not a very hard concept to grasp.
Agree
Any team that makes an offer for Trouba would have had a contract worked out with Overfart weeks ago... It's not like his camp hasn't been negotiating with NHL GMs since the summer....
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Most Jets fans have no interest in Nurse.
The Jets aren’t desperate to move anyone either. Other than the top pairing LD spot we want Trouba in, we have more players than roster spots to play them. The only other thing that would fill a need is a young C as an upgrade on and eventual replacement for Little.Facts have no place here!
If we are not getting one of these things back there is ZERO reason to make a trade because we don’t have a need or even room for the asset coming back. (we are very young in many places but that’s a different issue.)
LOL you say non-existent contract like it means something. You understand how RFA's work right? I also hope you understand that any team trading for him will be sorting out a contract before the trade.
Unless you think he's a risk to bolt to the KHL
Here's a logical reason: I don't want to give up someone coming off their ELC for someone I believe to have a lower ceiling and is only around for 2 years.
That's not a very hard concept to grasp.
honest question, do YOU believe he will be traded before Dec 1st or not?
if yes, name names on player returns you can HONESTLY see happening
go...
LOL you say non-existent contract like it means something. You understand how RFA's work right? I also hope you understand that any team trading for him will be sorting out a contract before the trade.
Unless you think he's a risk to bolt to the KHL
Here's a logical reason: I don't want to give up someone coming off their ELC for someone I believe to have a lower ceiling and is only around for 2 years.
That's not a very hard concept to grasp.
And it still isnt logical at all considering the guy you claim is a bottom pair plays on Anaheims top pair, which is one of the best defenses in the league, and Fowler is what 24 IIRC?
And perhaps some folks dont even want Trouba because he wants so much money whereas you get Fowler for two years before having to get to that step. That means something in the cap world.
And as for the dmen mentioned so far; Tanev > Fowler > Maatta >= Trouba so really I dont see how Jets fans dont want Fowler but then expect a piece even better than him!
Should be interesting to see what Chev does
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