Proposal: Trouba Mega-Thread Part III

[GoJetsGo55]

From the offers ive seen most Jets fans have been pretty reasonable (value wise) in there opinions/offers, albeit they are being very specific on the type of return. I don't think any Jets fan would expect OEL as the return, even with a plus.

Obviously OEL would be the Holy grail return, just not realistic

Yeah I think most of us realize that a Trouba trade for OEL will have to include Laine

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Nyquist is not needed. Smith is not that good. Prospects we have in abundance.

I don't blame Detroit for saying no to Larkin because he does look like he's going to be something special.

It's just clear Detroit and Winnipeg don't match up as trade partners.

Well thats not very fair now is it...

Dammit

Too bad thats the deal.

 

[mondo3]

A forward cannot be the main piece coming back.

I realize it's not what we need, but what if the returning forward was a significant overpay?

 

[Blue Shakehead]

You obviously do not understand.

If Cheveldayoff forces Trouba to sit, all of those agents for their young players will be terrified of him for the next two seasons he is employed by the Jets. That's two seasons worth of all agents being terrified of his negotiating pimp hand. And once Chevy is fired, as all general managers eventually are, his sheer ferocity will linger within the halls of the MTS Center and no agent will ever make demands of them again.

The added bonus will be all those agents calling two weeks before each draft and telling Chevy not to draft their clients. That will be the stupid agents falling right into Chevy's trap, as he will draft whomever he pleases and exert his indomitable will upon those agents and players for the next two seasons until they re-enter the draft, Pejorative Sluring their development and showing who is king of the negotiating table once again. Once more, a win for the Jets, a win for Cheveldayoff and a win for Jets fans everywhere.

And when the NHLPA declares jihad on the Jets and holds that grudge long past the day Chevy is fired? Another flawless victory for the Jets! Any new general manager will have to assume the strained relationships between the Players Association, agents and the team. No weak willed candidate will want that headache, thus ensuring the Jets will only have the toughest, most focused management possible.

Truly, Trouba demanding a trade has set the Jets up perfectly for the foreseeable future. You just have to drill down a bit to see it.

Im a Jets fan, and I can appreciate art when I see it. This was good.

 

[Cenzo_]

Habs Jets

Beaulieu + for Trouba

Habs are trying Petry on the left to see if he could pair with Webber on the 1st pair. This would leave a spot for the 2nd pairing on the right side.

Jets are looking for a left D with top 3 upside. Beaulieu definitely has potential to be a top 3 but is more of a #4-5 at the moment hence the + with Beaulieau.

What would jet fan ask as a +?

2nd round pick and prospect alla Reway/De La Rose? Might need to take a cap dump like Mitchell

 

[JetsHomer]

Unless the plus is Sergachev no interest in a deal with Montreal.

 

[HOPE]

Not realy has sergachev is a natural RD

 

[cneely]

Pretty huge plus IMO.

McCaron type plus.

 

[North]

Well thats not very fair now is it...

Dammit

Too bad thats the deal.

No deal then, simple.

 

[Blue Shakehead]

If the Habs got Trouba, would they move Weber down to a more sheltered role, like the bottom pair and PP1?

 

[Maukkis]

Beaulieu + for Trouba

Habs are trying Petry on the left to see if he could pair with Webber on the 1st pair. This would leave a spot for the 2nd pairing on the right side.

Jets are looking for a left D with top 3 upside. Beaulieu definitely has potential to be a top 3 but is more of a #4-5 at the moment hence the + with Beaulieau.

What would jet fan ask as a +?

2nd round pick and prospect alla Reway/De La Rose? Might need to take a cap dump like Mitchell

Sergachev.

As for the forward question, I'd take a forward as a return (or BPA anyway) if a separate deal for a replacement could be found. Not likely, but doable.

 

[HOPE]

Lol i cant wait for trouba to be traded to see the return. Wpg fans are gonna be pissed, trouba is good and has a high ceilling, but he isnt a top pair dman has we speak and doesnt have a contract.

Asking sergachev on top of beaulieu is a huge joke, serg hasnt played a single game but he just got drafted, was OHL dman of the year in his rookie season and could end up being better than trouba, he might not but the gamble is there. As a 18 year old kid he already has the physique and shot to play in the big league.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Lol i cant wait for trouba to be traded to see the return. Wpg fans are gonna be pissed, trouba is good and has a high ceilling, but he isnt a top pair dman has we speak and doesnt have a contract.

Asking sergachev on top of beaulieu is a huge joke, serg hasnt played a single game but he just got drafted, was OHL dman of the year in his rookie season and could end up being better than trouba, he might not but the gamble is there. As a 18 year old kid he already has the physique and shot to play in the big league.

For months we heard the same about Kane. MONTHS! We got a pretty damn good haul in that deal.

 

[Blue Shakehead]

Lol i cant wait for trouba to be traded to see the return. Wpg fans are gonna be pissed, trouba is good and has a high ceilling, but he isnt a top pair dman has we speak and doesnt have a contract.

Asking sergachev on top of beaulieu is a huge joke, serg hasnt played a single game but he just got drafted, was OHL dman of the year in his rookie season and could end up being better than trouba, he might not but the gamble is there. As a 18 year old kid he already has the physique and shot to play in the big league.

Subban >>>>>>>>>Trouba >>>>>>>>> Weber.

 

[cneely]

Lol i cant wait for trouba to be traded to see the return. Wpg fans are gonna be pissed, trouba is good and has a high ceilling, but he isnt a top pair dman has we speak and doesnt have a contract.

Asking sergachev on top of beaulieu is a huge joke, serg hasnt played a single game but he just got drafted, was OHL dman of the year in his rookie season and could end up being better than trouba, he might not but the gamble is there. As a 18 year old kid he already has the physique and shot to play in the big league.

If I'm not mistaken, Trouba has played the 35th most ice time among defencemen in the NHL over the last 3 years (19, 20 and 21 year old seasons), all the while on a team with some decent top 4 defenders in Buff, Enstrom and Myers / Bogo. That's not a top pairing defenceman?

 

[Cenzo_]

Subban >>>>>>>>>Trouba >>>>>>>>> Weber.

Wow you sure are looking for attention

 

[HOPE]

If I'm not mistaken, Trouba has played the 35th most ice time among defencemen in the NHL over the last 3 years (19, 20 and 21 year old seasons), all the while on a team with some decent top 4 defenders in Buff, Enstrom and Myers / Bogo. That's not a top pairing defenceman?

While hes a good two-way dman, you think his offensive numbers are good considering the facts you just stated about his ice time?

And kane is a whole different story. He never asked for a trade and if im nt mistaken he was still in his elc at the time of the trade, coming from a 30goal season as such a young ages.

 

[Maukkis]

While hes a good two-way dman, you think his offensive numbers are good considering the facts you just stated about his ice time?

And kane is a whole different story. He never asked for a trade and if im nt mistaken he was still in his elc at the time of the trade, coming from a 30goal season as such a young ages.

Kane asked for a trade three seasons in a row.

...and he was about three seasons into his long term deal when he was traded.

But at least you got the goal amount right!

 

[howkie]

While hes a good two-way dman, you think his offensive numbers are good considering the facts you just stated about his ice time?

And kane is a whole different story. He never asked for a trade and if im nt mistaken he was still in his elc at the time of the trade, coming from a 30goal season as such a young ages.

So much wrong in one sentence...

 

[aj8000]

Lol i cant wait for trouba to be traded to see the return. Wpg fans are gonna be pissed, trouba is good and has a high ceilling, but he isnt a top pair dman has we speak and doesnt have a contract.

Or all the other fans will be shocked at the high return the Jets got. See we can all speculate here.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

A forward cannot be the main piece coming back.

Okay then why supposedly this summer, Cheveldayoff asked for Detroit's 2 top prospects one would assume he wanted Larkin and one of Mantha/AA then.

 

[CarlWinslow]

No deal then, simple.

Then enjoy Trouba. You guys will only take players like Maata, who are better than Trouba and already signed.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If the Habs got Trouba, would they move Weber down to a more sheltered role, like the bottom pair and PP1?

With Weber and Petry on the rightside trading for Trouba makes zero sense. As neither have played the leftside and Trouba wont go to Montreal to play the leftside either.

 

[aj8000]

Okay then why supposedly this summer, Cheveldayoff asked for Detroit's 2 top prospects one would assume he wanted Larkin and one of Mantha/AA then.

Maybe to see if Detroit would over pay for Trouba if what you say is true. I am not privy to the specifics of the potential deal you speak of so i do not know who the moving parts are

 

[GoJetsGo55]

While hes a good two-way dman, you think his offensive numbers are good considering the facts you just stated about his ice time?

And kane is a whole different story. He never asked for a trade and if im nt mistaken he was still in his elc at the time of the trade, coming from a 30goal season as such a young ages.

If offensive numbers mean so much, then Vatanen >> Lindholm

As for your thing about Kane, literally everything you said was wrong