Value of: Trouba likely to ask for the moon on a new deal

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I hope that Jacob Trouba eventually prices himself out of Winnipeg, If i'm him and Overhardt i definitely ask for the moon here. 8 years $72 million give or take.

 

[seafoam]

They'd likely send him out East if they didn't want to pay him.

Maybe Detroit.

 

[MardyBum]

Of course you would. That's a robbery.

Two prospects and a mid to late 1st at best for a 23 year old top pairing RHD.

"Robbery"

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Lol, Oilers make the playoffs once and all of a sudden there fans think the players are worth twice there weight in gold apparently.

Klefbom better than Trouba? RNH+Poolparty an overpayment for Trouba? That's laughably awful.


Jets would never move Trouba for RNH + Poolparty.

 

[Hunter368]

I hope that Jacob Trouba eventually prices himself out of Winnipeg, If i'm him and Overhardt i definitely ask for the moon here. 8 years $72 million give or take.

Well, isn't that nice of you, directly hoping another team ill will.

 

[MooseJawMayor]

Seems like he really wants to be in Detroit. That is all.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Well, isn't that nice of you, directly hoping another team ill will.

Well truthfully i seriously doubt that you will get him signed for less then 8 years $64 million so what's another $8 million or so added.

 

[Menzinger]

As he should,

Every time a GM tries to hardball a prime young talent it always comes back to bite them. It's always better to work out a compromise on a long term deal as soon as you can.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

They'd likely send him out East if they didn't want to pay him.

Maybe Detroit.

We don't really have the assets to acquire Trouba easily. Maybe the high draft pick this year but that is likely to be a tough sell. Ideally if you're a Wings fan he signs in Winnipeg without giving up a single UFA year and that is where he draws the line in the sand, if he is dealt in his UFA year it is to an all in contender that cannot afford the re-sign. That is a lot of hoping, I do think the Wings are in poll position if he ever makes it to UFA status but guys of his caliber of talent so rarely put all of their eggs in that basket like that. He would basically have to pull a Shattenkirk where he makes it clear for several years what he is doing.

My guess is Trouba doesn't lock-up long-term in Winnipeg. Best you could see is a contract taking him to his UFA year or UFA year plus one. We will find out, but I for one don't believe this to be about playing time or money, I just don't think he wants to be there which usually means he is not going to be there that much longer. So for instance the scenario I said was ideal as a Wings fan isn't one I see playing out much longer to happen in our favor.

If Trouba plans to force the arbitration and out route my guess is the Jets are aware at this point and have a tough decision on their hands. They have to give him the role he wants given that as the public excuse given or there is no reason to lock up long-term and with the role he wants his arbitration case becomes much easier to win. Whereas the Jets held the cards last summer/fall, they are slowly bleeding cards out of the deck and it isn't long before Trouba really holds some big advantages in this process if he is committed to leaving.

 

[hagelin1381]

He's the best defender on their team. He gon' get paaaid

 

[Flamesjustwin]

Klefbom is a better player on his own, for much cheaper than Trouba will be.

Here we go....

 

[Maurice of Orange]

This will certainly fire up the Jacob troubadour trade rumors once again.

 

[Jack Burton]

Jets would never move Trouba for RNH + Poolparty.

If Edmonton actually ever offered that then I'd bet Winnipeg would jump all over it.

There's no doubt in my mind that Winnipeg would love to get their hands on Poolparty & Edmonton would love to get their hands on Trouba.

 

[BB88]

If Edmonton actually ever offered that then I'd bet Winnipeg would jump all over it.

Theirs no doubt in my mind that Winnipeg would love to get their hands on Poolparty & Edmonton would love to get their hands on Trouba.

How does that address Jets biggest need?

Ehlers- Scheifele- Laine
Connor- Little Wheeler
top6, neither RNH or Pulju have a spot on that and they just drafted another Finnish winger Vesalainen.

If Jets trade Trouba they need defense, one way or another. Then another issue is the cap.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Add Klefbom and then maybe the Jets think about it

Lol yeah considering that Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada other then getting stuck in Winnipeg, Why? Would Edmonton send Klefbom to Winnipeg for only 3 years of Trouba that's not happening unless it was like a sign and trade kind of deal and i don't see Trouba committing long term with Edmonton.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

This will certainly fire up the Jacob troubadour trade rumors once again.

Yup that's guaranteed.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Amazed so few know the CA.

Let's do the time line. Trouba first RFA contract is up summer 2018. He is still an RFA and with all the restrictions and compensation that RFAs have. One difference this time is he eligible for arbitration.

So it makes so little difference, what Trouba wants. Why is it so many people on these hockey sites are such poor negotiators? They don't seem to know what public negotiations (see Draisaitl) really are.

Let's time to last summer. Trouba was waiting for offer sheet. What did settle for 2.8m a year for two years. Not the 5m so many folks on social media were knowing he was going to get.

In conclusion, let's learn the CBA, before we go willy nilly about Trouba's on any other players contract.
Knowing the CBA is more important than reading a leaked agent statement or what talking heads say for ratings .

 

[Funk21]

Lol, Oilers make the playoffs once and all of a sudden there fans think the players are worth twice there weight in gold apparently.

Klefbom better than Trouba? RNH+Poolparty an overpayment for Trouba? That's laughably awful.


Jets would never move Trouba for RNH + Poolparty.

This X100, second PC has put his team into cap issues. He still needs to sign Drai and if I am him or his agent I want 10 per. This notion that he would accept a 8x8 is crazy, if I am every other GM in the league I offer sheet him between 9-10.

Trouba will likely get 7-8 depending on if its an 7 or 8 year deal. If the jets don't want to pay that some team will, question is who has the assets to provide chevy with decent return. I'd love him on the leafs but realistically don't believe we have the assets unless its a sever overpayment. I would be okay with extra draft picks but would not trade any of the Big 3, likely it would have to centre around Liljegren. That would be a tuff pill to swallow up given that Trouba is ready/is a top pairing D its something I would be willing to part with.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

He's the best defender on their team. He gon' get paaaid

Yup if Winnipeg doesn't pay Trouba, There's going to be several teams out there that will. Detroit being one of them by the time Trouba hits UFA status if he does Detroit will have tons of salary off the books as long as Holland doesn't go beserk paying Larkin and Mantha.

 

[Hunter368]

If Edmonton actually ever offered that then I'd bet Winnipeg would jump all over it.

There's no doubt in my mind that Winnipeg would love to get their hands on Poolparty & Edmonton would love to get their hands on Trouba.

Pool party has been disappointing to date, completely no need for more wingers, Laine didn't play with him much and a 2C who is very highly paid approaching over paid. Why would the Jets jump all over this? This sounds like a 11th hour worse case possible type of trade. No interest

 

[Roof Daddy]

Seems like he really wants to be in Detroit. That is all.

Does Detroit even have the pieces to make a Trouba deal, let alone the pieces that fit the Jets' needs?

 

[Menzinger]

Let's do the time line. Trouba first RFA contract is up summer 2018. He is still an RFA and with all the restrictions and compensation that RFAs have. One difference this time is he eligible for arbitration.

So it makes so little difference, what Trouba wants. Why is it so many people on these hockey sites are such poor negotiators? They don't seem to know what public negotiations (see Draisaitl) really are.

Let's time to last summer. Trouba was waiting for offer sheet. What did settle for 2.8m a year for two years. Not the 5m so many folks on social media were knowing he was going to get.

In conclusion, let's learn the CBA, before we go willy nilly about Trouba's on any other players contract.
Knowing the CBA is more important than reading a leaked agent statement or what talking heads say for ratings .

I think just about everyone here understands the concept of RFA status, the team having an advantage doesn't mean they can retain full control.

The player can refuse to sign a deal, request a trade. There are things hat can help force a GMs hand.

And fact is, after getting hardballed on his last deal I doubt his agent is going to be forgiving. If Chevy wants him locked up long term (which is likely the best interest of the team) he's going to have to pay for it.

 

[Hunter368]

Does Detroit even have the pieces to make a Trouba deal, let alone the pieces that fit the Jets' needs?

Nope, not even close

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Does Detroit even have the pieces to make a Trouba deal, let alone the pieces that fit the Jets' needs?

No, It would be more or less as a UFA like Shattenkirk, If Trouba's heart is coming home to play for his hometown Wings and i'm not saying it is. Then we will just sign him for free in 3 years i can definitely see him getting at least 7 years $49 million in Detroit and he will be definitely worth it.

 

[ffh]

I think just about everyone here understands the concept of RFA status, the team having an advantage doesn't mean they can retain full control.

The player can refuse to sign a deal, request a trade. There are things hat can help force a GMs hand.

And fact is, after getting hardballed on his last deal I doubt his agent is going to be forgiving. If Chevy wants him locked up long term (which is likely the best interest of the team) he's going to have to pay for it.

Winnipeg will pay up. they always have. but they will not give him the moon like it has been written about. 29 gets the moon if he wants everyone else gets fair value. if he and his agent don't like that then they can file for arbitration.