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Proposal: Trouba for Hanifin

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Let me see if I have this figured out.

Canes have no need to trade D for D.

Laine, a number 2 overall forward who hasn't played a single game in the league is far more valuable than a number 4 overall 18 year old defenseman with a high ceiling that has a year's experience at the hardest position to crack the lineup as a young player.

Skinner is once again on life support.

...seems about right to me.
 
Roof Daddy said:
If the Jets are serious about acquiring Hanifin, I'm thinking Laine would be the name the Canes ask for. Even then, not sure the Canes would pull the trigger.
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Clearly they would look at the rest of the thread loaded on D. Jets dont do that anyways.

Carolina is looking to deal for a young impact forward if Hanafin is moved.
 
Winnipeg (rightfully so) will not move Laine for Hanifin. However, Carolina has no need to move Hanifin to Winnipeg for anything less than Laine.

There's nothing to see here.
 
Channelcat said:
Lol....Jet fans ( I am one)

Yes it would cost Laine to get Hanifin.

No, Trouba is not enough.
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This guy gets it.

Not only does Hanifin have higher trade value than Trouba, Trouba doesn't fill a need for Carolina.

Winnipeg is a well-run organization and would reject any even remotely semi-realistic trade offer involving Patrik Laine.
 
OmniCube said:
This guy gets it.

Not only does Hanifin have higher trade value than Trouba, Trouba doesn't fill a need for Carolina.

Winnipeg is a well-run organization and would reject any even remotely semi-realistic trade offer involving Patrik Laine.
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This is pretty much the exact same situation for the Canes and Hanifin.

It's really the only reason the proposal has merit, even as unlikely as it is...because the only way to actually tempt someone to move an untouchable asset is to offer an untouchable asset of your own that would only be available for the untouchable asset and for no combination of lesser pieces.
 
Chan790 said:
This is pretty much the exact same situation for the Canes and Hanifin.

It's really the only reason the proposal has merit, even as unlikely as it is...because the only way to actually tempt someone to move an untouchable asset is to offer an untouchable asset of your own that would only be available for the untouchable asset and for no combination of lesser pieces.
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I don't disagree. I wanted Hanifin at #4 in 2015 and was disappointed when we passed on him. You don't even want to know what it would take for me to entertain moving Auston Matthews. :laugh:

Carolina would be stupid to trade Hanifin for anything less than a king's ransom. Guys like Hanifin and Laine simply don't get moved.
 
OmniCube said:
Winnipeg (rightfully so) will not move Laine for Hanifin. However, Carolina has no need to move Hanifin to Winnipeg for anything less than Laine.

There's nothing to see here.
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They won't, but I think the Jets should. Laine could be scoring 35g a year, and I'd still say they need Hanifin more.
 
major major said:
They won't, but I think the Jets should. Laine could be scoring 35g a year, and I'd still say they need Hanifin more.
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I'm a Toronto fan so I have no dog in this fight, and if the Jets had ended up with Puljujarvi I would have definitely agreed with you, but I couldn't move Laine.
 
Hanifin would be very expensive to get (not that the Canes would anyways). The Jets imo don't have a big enough need to pay the likely cost, I think both teams would walk away from this one.
 
Daddy Longlegs said:
Trouba for Hanfin. Can it happen? I doubt Carolina is looking to part with Hanifin. But everyone is available for the right price, and Trouba (plus?) should definitely be in the ballpark of the "right price". I'm guessing most would suggest that the Jets add here. If so, would Roslovic be enough? Roslovic and a pick? The jets will likely have to over pay to pry Hanifin away, and I'm fine with a realistic overpayment. So what's a realistic trade for Touba and Hanifin to swap teams?
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I would take Hanifin all day long ,every day and 3 times on Sunday and 4 times on Christmas over Trouba
 
In regards to Hanifin and Laine, I think it comes down to whether you'd rather have a possible Norris candidate, or Rocket Richard contender (talking ceiling potential here). Not a decision you can make until you can remove "possible" or "potential", and you know your team needs at the time. Both should be studs, neither will move any time soon.
 
camdon said:
Karl Alzner, Luke Schenn,Morgan Rielly, Ryan Whitney,Vitali Vishnevsky
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The list goes on and on... Statically speaking Hanfin's plays a similar game to Ryan Whitney. Time will tell if he can match that career.
 
RodTheBawd said:
In regards to Hanifin and Laine, I think it comes down to whether you'd rather have a possible Norris candidate, or Rocket Richard contender (talking ceiling potential here). Not a decision you can make until you can remove "possible" or "potential", and you know your team needs at the time. Both should be studs, neither will move any time soon.
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Agreed. :handclap:
 
Ola said:
Doesnt Trouba for Lindholm make the most sense?
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Which Lindholm, Elias? If so, not really. Canes lack forwards with skill so can't afford to lose one forward with skill for another D, where they are deep. Opposite is true for WPG. They are loaded at Forward so don't need Lindholm, but based on what I've read here, want a LHD.
 
Daddy Longlegs said:
Trouba for Hanfin. Can it happen? I doubt Carolina is looking to part with Hanifin. But everyone is available for the right price, and Trouba (plus?) should definitely be in the ballpark of the "right price". I'm guessing most would suggest that the Jets add here. If so, would Roslovic be enough? Roslovic and a pick? The jets will likely have to over pay to pry Hanifin away, and I'm fine with a realistic overpayment. So what's a realistic trade for Touba and Hanifin to swap teams?
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The Jets would have to add a pretty nice piece to Trouba to return Hanifin. He's better, younger and signed.
 
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I'd do it as a Jets fan. Very much doubt CAR would.


I'd even add a decent prospect/young player (Roslovic, Petan, Armia) and still doubt CAR would be thrilled.
 
JetsHomer said:
Ah got it. You prefer Beaulieu because of untrue things you've made up about Trouba. Lmao
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Sometimes you don't need to make things up . No one knows what Trouba contract demands are . But it is logical to assume he is asking for a contract the Jets management are not comfortable giving him or the deal would be done . If I were to say I prefer Davidson over Trouba does that mean I think Davidson is better ? No . It I prefer the guy that is trending upwards and has always been humble . Plus he signed a cheap deal . Trouba value is at a all time low because he is not signed
 
jklimmy said:
This has probably been said numerous times but...

Toronto gets trouba
Carolina gets nylander
Winnipeg gets hanifin

Adds where needed.
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Wouldn't trade Hanifin for Nylander or Trouba. Adds are immaterial, the assets that need to be on the table...aren't on the table.

If Winnipeg wants Hanifin, it costs Laine.
If Toronto wants Hanifin, Canes add for Matthews.
 
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